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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 10, 2023 7:44:25 GMT
The board need to wake the fuck up and realise how angry people are at the shit they're being served up. Booing and chanting seems to have no effect, so we can go one of two ways: go full on '97 and start tearing the place apart, or just stop attending until Alex Neil is fucked off.
If he hasn't gone by Tuesday then that'd be an ideal time for the board to see three empty stands as fans register their disgust at being taken for idiots.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 7:46:32 GMT
Yesterday was pretty empty I thought.
And it will only get worse.
However, despite how terrible it was, it was still a laugh where I sit and that can’t be missed.
Fucking club.
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Post by Amo on Dec 10, 2023 7:53:53 GMT
I think the hierarchy will very soon realise how bad the fans think the situation is when season ticket renewals drop off a cliff!
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Post by loosestools on Dec 10, 2023 7:55:46 GMT
Instead of wasting money on a fan zone they should set up a mental health and wellbeing drop in centre, a place to pop into before going home after the game, there would be a big queue mind, but it might ease traffic congestion coming out of the car parks.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 10, 2023 7:56:38 GMT
I vote for the redecorating route. Love a bit of 'shabby chic', me...
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Post by jay1610 on Dec 10, 2023 7:56:56 GMT
Whether it’s empty or not, surely the message will get through if Neil is somehow still in the dugout for Swansea.
I haven’t spoken to any Stoke fan who wants him to be in charge for it.
And the board will find themselves in the crosshairs on Tuesday if he is.
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 10, 2023 8:00:48 GMT
I personally think he will be sacked on Monday morning.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 10, 2023 8:03:42 GMT
I personally think he will be sacked on Monday morning. If he had a modicum of integrity he would hand his notice in and walk. For whatever reason he has failed epically. In his shoes I would walk and apologise. |
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Post by loosestools on Dec 10, 2023 8:04:53 GMT
I vote for the redecorating route. Love a bit of 'shabby chic', me... A subtle change - from shabby shit to shabby chic |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 8:05:57 GMT
I personally think he will be sacked on Monday morning. If he had a modicum of integrity he would hand his notice in and walk. For whatever reason he has failed epically. In his shoes I would walk and apologise. He wouldn’t get his payout then. Can’t say I blame him for not doing that, I’d do the same. Absolutely milk the idiots in charge. |
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 10, 2023 8:06:50 GMT
I vote for the redecorating route. Love a bit of 'shabby chic', me... A subtle change - from shabby shit to shabby chic I wouldn't be against curling one out in the middle of the Waddington as a starting point. A shit on the floor would cheer the place up a bit... |
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Post by loosestools on Dec 10, 2023 8:08:21 GMT
I personally think he will be sacked on Monday morning. If he had a modicum of integrity he would hand his notice in and walk. For whatever reason he has failed epically. In his shoes I would walk and apologise. "sorry JC Ive been found out, I think I ought to clear my desk" "OK Alex, thanks, do want this £2million or what?" "Oh - Ok ta very much - you mug" |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 8:08:32 GMT
I vote for the redecorating route. Love a bit of 'shabby chic', me... A subtle change - from shabby shit to shabby chic Can we not mention Chic please? You might give the Coates’ an idea for the new manager. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 10, 2023 8:09:20 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-alex-neil-8965319Flat and fearful Stoke City leave John Coates with big decision to makeIt's not even a decision as such now, is it? But it's the lack of knowing and the 1% that John is a loose cannon who thinks he's making some great stand to support his mate. If he has a decision, hopefully it's something like which pair of pants to wear while he performs the necessary. It's inconceivable he can be in the dugout on Tuesday. If John is doing his best ostrich/Emperor Nero impression, Peter (or ideally Denise with the Black Mamba) have got to step in and perform an intervention this morning.  John Coates: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Neil...What's,uh...What's wrong with it? Stoke fans: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it! John Coates: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting. Stoke fans: Look, matey, I know a dead Neil when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. JC: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Neil. Beautiful plumage! Fans: The plumage don't enter into it. He's stone dead. JC: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting! Fans: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up! (shouting at the cage) 'Ello, Mister Polly Neil! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you show... (hits the cage) JC: There, he moved! Fans: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage! JC: I never!! Fans: Yes, you did! JC: I never, never did anything... Fans: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO POLLY NEIL!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call! (Takes Neil out of the cage and thumps his head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches him plummet to the floor.) Now that's what I call a dead Neil. JC: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned! STUNNED?!? JC: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Neil stun easily, major. Fans: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That Neil is definitely deceased, and when I purchased him not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk. JC: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords. Fans: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home? JC: The Norwegian Neil prefers keepin' on it's back! Remarkable bird, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage! Fans: Look, I took the liberty of examining that Neil when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This Neil is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-Neil!!
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Post by loosestools on Dec 10, 2023 8:10:40 GMT
A subtle change - from shabby shit to shabby chic I wouldn't be against curling one out in the middle of the Waddington as a starting point. A shit on the floor would cheer the place up a bit... Then we would know who you are - the face behind the turd protest. Its a good idea actually. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 8:10:59 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-alex-neil-8965319Flat and fearful Stoke City leave John Coates with big decision to makeIt's not even a decision as such now, is it? But it's the lack of knowing and the 1% that John is a loose cannon who thinks he's making some great stand to support his mate. If he has a decision, hopefully it's something like which pair of pants to wear while he performs the necessary. It's inconceivable he can be in the dugout on Tuesday. If John is doing his best ostrich/Emperor Nero impression, Peter (or ideally Denise with the Black Mamba) have got to step in and perform an intervention this morning. John Coates: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Neil...What's,uh...What's wrong with it? Stoke fans: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it! John Coates: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting. Stoke fans: Look, matey, I know a dead Neil when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. JC: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Neil. Beautiful plumage! Fams: The plumage don't enter into it. He's stone dead. JC: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting! Fans: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up! (shouting at the cage) 'Ello, Mister Polly Neil! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you show... (hits the cage) JC: There, he moved! Fans: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage! JC: I never!! Fans: Yes, you did! JC: I never, never did anything... Fans: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO POLLY NEIL!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call! (Takes Neil out of the cage and thumps his head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches him plummet to the floor.) Now that's what I call a dead Neil. JC: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned! STUNNED?!? JC: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Neil stun easily, major. Fans: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That Neil is definitely deceased, and when I purchased him not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk. JC: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords. Fans: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home? JC: The Norwegian Neil prefers keepin' on it's back! Remarkable bird, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage! Fans: Look, I took the liberty of examining that Neil when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This Neil is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-Neil!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 10, 2023 8:11:36 GMT
If he had a modicum of integrity he would hand his notice in and walk. For whatever reason he has failed epically. In his shoes I would walk and apologise. He wouldn’t get his payout then. Can’t say I blame him for not doing that, I’d do the same. Absolutely milk the idiots in charge. You're correct. I however would walk in his shoes. He ain't short of money and sometimes in life there are situations you create where the only respect you can salvage is obtained by holding your hands up and apologising. This is most certainly one of those situations. He's totally fucked up here.....royally so.I |
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Post by jay1610 on Dec 10, 2023 8:13:50 GMT
He wouldn’t get his payout then. Can’t say I blame him for not doing that, I’d do the same. Absolutely milk the idiots in charge. You're correct. I however would walk in his shoes. He ain't short of money and sometimes in life there are situations you create where the only respect you can salvage is obtained by holding your hands up and apologising. This is most certainly one of those situations. He's totally fucked up here.....royally so.I You’re right, of course. But football doesn’t work that way these days. He knows he’ll get a job with another Championship also-ran in the next 18 months, so who cares about integrity and respect? |
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 10, 2023 8:13:59 GMT
FullerMagic talking about the Mamba is a sad sight on a Sunday morning. The quintessential messageboard transfer guru resorting to the kind of raucous behaviour his mate Trouserdog engages in (he loves the occasional manager 'rodding' like the best of us) is a sign of how bad things have become. Come on Coates get it done, FM isn't for turning here. He needs his focus on where Jared's compass is pointing to, and not that filth that Lord Dennis of Etruria indulges in every 18 months or so!
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Post by baconburger on Dec 10, 2023 8:14:21 GMT
Whether it’s empty or not, surely the message will get through if Neil is somehow still in the dugout for Swansea. I haven’t spoken to any Stoke fan who wants him to be in charge for it. And the board will find themselves in the crosshairs on Tuesday if he is. It makes perfect sense for him to be in the dug out on Tuesday night unless they’ve already tied down a deal with his successor. Nothing quite screams crisis like pulling the trigger and then saying what now? Hopefully we’re getting a bit smarter in that respect, pretty sure AN was a done deal when we sacked MON as it should be. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 8:14:40 GMT
He wouldn’t get his payout then. Can’t say I blame him for not doing that, I’d do the same. Absolutely milk the idiots in charge. You're correct. I however would walk in his shoes. He ain't short of money and sometimes in life there are situations you create where the only respect you can salvage is obtained by holding your hands up and apologising. This is most certainly one of those situations. He's totally fucked up here.....royally so.I Why would he care though? This club means nothing to him. I’d milk us dry. He will walk away with some regret and millions of pounds. Happy days! |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 10, 2023 8:14:40 GMT
I personally think he will be sacked on Monday morning. If he had a modicum of integrity he would hand his notice in and walk. For whatever reason he has failed epically. In his shoes I would walk and apologise. In football failure brings huge rewards for a sacked coach though. He won’t walk and miss out on his payout. I’ve no idea what the severance payments are but would guess that it’s his wages for the remainder of his contract which I think is 18 months. If he’s on £20k a week that £1.5m. |
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Post by jay1610 on Dec 10, 2023 8:17:37 GMT
Whether it’s empty or not, surely the message will get through if Neil is somehow still in the dugout for Swansea. I haven’t spoken to any Stoke fan who wants him to be in charge for it. And the board will find themselves in the crosshairs on Tuesday if he is. It makes perfect sense for him to be in the dug out on Tuesday night unless they’ve already tied down a deal with his successor. Nothing quite screams crisis like pulling the trigger and then saying what now? Hopefully we’re getting a bit smarter in that respect, pretty sure AN was a done deal when we sacked MON as it should be. Does it? We’re in a relegation battle and need a result. This manager is done. Everyone knows it, including the players. Is that a recipe for 3 points? |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 10, 2023 8:18:28 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-alex-neil-8965319Flat and fearful Stoke City leave John Coates with big decision to makeIt's not even a decision as such now, is it? But it's the lack of knowing and the 1% that John is a loose cannon who thinks he's making some great stand to support his mate. If he has a decision, hopefully it's something like which pair of pants to wear while he performs the necessary. It's inconceivable he can be in the dugout on Tuesday. If John is doing his best ostrich/Emperor Nero impression, Peter (or ideally Denise with the Black Mamba) have got to step in and perform an intervention this morning. John Coates: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Neil...What's,uh...What's wrong with it? Stoke fans: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it! John Coates: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting. Stoke fans: Look, matey, I know a dead Neil when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. JC: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Neil. Beautiful plumage! Fans: The plumage don't enter into it. He's stone dead. JC: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting! Fans: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up! (shouting at the cage) 'Ello, Mister Polly Neil! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you show... (hits the cage) JC: There, he moved! Fans: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage! JC: I never!! Fans: Yes, you did! JC: I never, never did anything... Fans: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO POLLY NEIL!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call! (Takes Neil out of the cage and thumps his head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches him plummet to the floor.) Now that's what I call a dead Neil. JC: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned! STUNNED?!? JC: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Neil stun easily, major. Fans: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That Neil is definitely deceased, and when I purchased him not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk. JC: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords. Fans: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home? JC: The Norwegian Neil prefers keepin' on it's back! Remarkable bird, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage! Fans: Look, I took the liberty of examining that Neil when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This Neil is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-Neil!! I genuinely thought the first few paragraphs were from the Sentinel article.  Also are you ok FM? Never seen you this animated. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 10, 2023 8:19:34 GMT
I think the difference is that the club was in mortal peril in 97.
I can see a world in which Neil is still in charge on Tuesday while we line up our ducks for a replacement. I think we've done that before, but my memory is hazy. Did we leave Rowett in charge for a cup game against a lower league team in January?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 10, 2023 8:21:17 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-alex-neil-8965319Flat and fearful Stoke City leave John Coates with big decision to makeIt's not even a decision as such now, is it? But it's the lack of knowing and the 1% that John is a loose cannon who thinks he's making some great stand to support his mate. If he has a decision, hopefully it's something like which pair of pants to wear while he performs the necessary. It's inconceivable he can be in the dugout on Tuesday. If John is doing his best ostrich/Emperor Nero impression, Peter (or ideally Denise with the Black Mamba) have got to step in and perform an intervention this morning. I genuinely thought the first few paragraphs were from the Sentinel article.  Also are you ok FM? Never seen you this animated. Would have been bold for Pete Smith to get a Denise-Black Mamba reference in there! Yeah, I'm just pissed off, mate. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 10, 2023 8:21:56 GMT
Whether it’s empty or not, surely the message will get through if Neil is somehow still in the dugout for Swansea. I haven’t spoken to any Stoke fan who wants him to be in charge for it. And the board will find themselves in the crosshairs on Tuesday if he is. It makes perfect sense for him to be in the dug out on Tuesday night unless they’ve already tied down a deal with his successor. Nothing quite screams crisis like pulling the trigger and then saying what now? Hopefully we’re getting a bit smarter in that respect, pretty sure AN was a done deal when we sacked MON as it should be. It makes zero sense - plenty of examples of "managerless" teams getting a bounce while the next appointment is lined up - even this weekend.... |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 10, 2023 8:23:03 GMT
It makes perfect sense for him to be in the dug out on Tuesday night unless they’ve already tied down a deal with his successor. Nothing quite screams crisis like pulling the trigger and then saying what now? Hopefully we’re getting a bit smarter in that respect, pretty sure AN was a done deal when we sacked MON as it should be. Does it? We’re in a relegation battle and need a result. This manager is done. Everyone knows it, including the players. Is that a recipe for 3 points? I’m sure it’s just as much of one than sacking him and leaving one of his back room staff in charge. He’s certainly done as far as I’m concerned but I still wouldn’t create a vacancy until I’d filled it. I’ve seen us and too many other clubs stung like that. |
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Post by jay1610 on Dec 10, 2023 8:25:49 GMT
Does it? We’re in a relegation battle and need a result. This manager is done. Everyone knows it, including the players. Is that a recipe for 3 points? I’m sure it’s just as much of one than sacking him and leaving one of his back room staff in charge. He’s certainly done as far as I’m concerned but I still wouldn’t create a vacancy until I’d filled it. I’ve seen us and too many other clubs stung like that. Well, the last time we did it Dean Holden picked up three points at Blackburn… |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 10, 2023 8:28:57 GMT
It makes perfect sense for him to be in the dug out on Tuesday night unless they’ve already tied down a deal with his successor. Nothing quite screams crisis like pulling the trigger and then saying what now? Hopefully we’re getting a bit smarter in that respect, pretty sure AN was a done deal when we sacked MON as it should be. It makes zero sense - plenty of examples of "managerless" teams getting a bounce while the next appointment is lined up - even this weekend.... It’s stupidity your targets can disappear into the ether and you end up employing Paul fucking Lambert a few weeks down the line. Never pull the trigger without knowing where things are going. |
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