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Post by kev4chaz on Dec 9, 2023 17:13:46 GMT
Neil is gone which will please the majority. Where does that leave us though with this gutless shower. Not a chance this will turn round. You could get Pulis or Warnock in in but this lot wont fight.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 9, 2023 17:15:27 GMT
He signed all the "gutless showers"
He played our only bright spark from a creative perspective out of position again today, the blokes an idiot.
I'm not seeing lack of fight as the major issue personally.................
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 9, 2023 17:15:45 GMT
They can do no worse and d'ya know what, I'll settle for that at this moment in time - that's how shit the situation has become under this fucking clown
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Post by baconburger on Dec 9, 2023 17:16:59 GMT
He signed all the "gutless showers" He played our only bright spark from a creative perspective out of position again today, the blokes an idiot. I'm not seeing lack of fight as the major issue personally................. Lack of cohesion, lack of direction, lack of belief.
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Post by stokeypenn89 on Dec 9, 2023 17:21:47 GMT
I think these players have been signed and told they are going to playing in a side that play attacking front footed football.
As that was what the snake oil salesman Neil tried selling the fans!
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Post by satoshi on Dec 9, 2023 17:22:02 GMT
I don’t think the players are the problem
We have a decent squad
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 9, 2023 17:23:06 GMT
A decent manager gets this team playing. They have clearly lost complete confidence in him one hundred percent. If we do not act now and get rid of him we will go down. It breaks my bloody heart to be fair.
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Post by figo85 on Dec 9, 2023 17:23:39 GMT
I think these players have been signed and told they are going to playing in a side that play attacking front footed football. As that was what the snake oil salesman Neil tried selling the fans! Probably used “it’s not far from Alderley Edge” as well.
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Post by victoria on Dec 9, 2023 17:24:08 GMT
The squad have individual ability
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Post by Goonie on Dec 9, 2023 17:24:33 GMT
I still think that squad is top half knocking on the playoffs
Need a keeper A striker and a left back
Just need a coach with a clear perspective
Go foreign, abroad if you have to
Just learn from the mistakes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 17:25:23 GMT
Stockholm syndrome in full effect again.
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Post by bjarnig on Dec 9, 2023 17:25:44 GMT
I think any new manager will struggle. Need another rebuild as this squad isn't good enough.
It's that simple.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 9, 2023 17:26:31 GMT
The issue lies at the top of the club. They keep changing the manager and nothing changes. There’s a reason for that.
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Post by ian57 on Dec 9, 2023 17:28:02 GMT
The players have downed tools and I can’t say that I blame them to be honest. A decent manager would get a tune out of this squad but I have no confidence in the board appointing a decent manager.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 9, 2023 17:30:55 GMT
I think any new manager will struggle. Need another rebuild as this squad isn't good enough. It's that simple. See I think we do have ability but they have no direction. They play as if they don't know the game plan and that comes from the manager. The defence is horrendous but I even think a decent manager gets us to January and then strengthens.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2023 17:33:03 GMT
John Coates has to realise he’s shit and let someone else run the club asap.
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Post by biglad180 on Dec 9, 2023 17:33:45 GMT
weather the players don,t want to play for the manager or not there are 20 thousands fans down there to play for they are a fucking disgrace.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 9, 2023 17:36:06 GMT
John Coates has to realise he’s shit and let someone else run the club asap. And that Bayern is the root of all our problems right there. When it comes to running the club he is a clown. Which team in the world in the modern game let's the manager control everything so that when he's inevitably sacked everything has to be ripped up? I'm guessing not very many.
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Post by kevkj on Dec 9, 2023 17:36:13 GMT
No defence no midfield no attack. Neil is shite but the playees are worse.
Getting a free ride.
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Post by mrnovember on Dec 9, 2023 17:36:39 GMT
It really is not beyond the realms of possibility that a new manager comes in, identifies and quickly addresses a few weaknesses, develops and communicates a clear way of playing and plays the best players in thier best position. This who else bollocks does my head in.
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Post by jzime on Dec 9, 2023 17:37:00 GMT
Some of the signings are half-decent at worst, and might actually be perfectly respectable players at this level under the right manager.
I've seen nothing from Burger, Vidigal and Junho that makes me think they're wank. Mmaee has shown (glimpses of) quality in periods and Wesley is a player with a decent pedigree, but a geriatric Dwight Gayle has kept them out of the team far too often. Tchamadeu seems like a promising young kid but Neil is determined to pick a loanne we'll never own, or his personal favourite Lynden Gooch, over him.
I hold out hope that a manager who is committed to playing progressive football could get a tune out of some of them.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 9, 2023 17:37:49 GMT
I still think that squad is top half knocking on the playoffs Need a keeper A striker and a left back Just need a coach with a clear perspective Go foreign, abroad if you have to Just learn from the mistakes Badly need a CB, I can live with Stevens if it meant we got a commanding no pissing about CB in.
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Post by TinkerT on Dec 9, 2023 17:39:06 GMT
Some of the signings are half-decent at worst, and might actually be perfectly respectable players at this level under this manager. I've seen nothing from Burger, Vidigal and Junho that makes me think they're wank. Mmaee has shown (glimpses of) quality in periods and Wesley is a player with a decent pedigree, but a geriatric Dwight Gayle has kept them out of the team far too often. Tchamadeu seems like a promising young kid but Neil is determined to pick a loanne we'll never own, or his personal favourite Lynden Gooch, over him. I hold out hope that a manager who is committed to playing progressive football could get a tune out of some of them. I actually think if we got a decent manager in with something about him we have a outside chance of reaching the play offs. We know the league is absolute dogshit but we have some good quality in our squad.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 9, 2023 17:39:44 GMT
Bring in a manager who motivates players and one who wants to play 4231 (our best, current formation). There’s a decent group of players in this squad but too many are scared to pass forwards and very few are capable of outcompeting their opposite numbers.
Win the 50-50s and pass forwards. Football is not rocket science.
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Post by mcw on Dec 9, 2023 17:39:49 GMT
It’s go so bad and so soul destroying for everyone that the only solution is to get rid of him. Even if the next manager doesn’t do any better, it’s a risk we have to take as Neil has lost everybody and there is no coming back from the depth of feeling against him.
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Post by questionable on Dec 9, 2023 17:40:56 GMT
No defence no midfield no attack. Neil is shite but the playees are worse. Getting a free ride. Agree as comically bad AN has been for SCFC we’ve replaced shit with shit if we we’re being honest with ourselves.
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Post by ian57 on Dec 9, 2023 17:42:17 GMT
weather the players don,t want to play for the manager or not there are 20 thousands fans down there to play for they are a fucking disgrace. I can see where you are coming from and I agree with the sentiment but we have to accept that the majority of players don’t really care about the club or it’s supporters as it’s just a job to them.
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 9, 2023 17:44:17 GMT
I don’t think the players are the problem We have a decent squad They aren't that good. If they were they would've played through this manager. I've done it in a pub team when the manager was gash, the rest of us took responsibility and played how we thought was best and despite him trying to take the credit, he got shifted out. This lot have shown not the slightest appetite for fight or to show what thry can do... they are spineless and if they were any good wouldn't be at Stoke. PS.... I'm no Neil fan either, should've gone weeks ago and the players with him.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 9, 2023 17:53:55 GMT
People said this when Jones was sacked and we proceeded to hire a man who got 80+ points in a calendar taking over a team which was 24th on his arrival.
It can be done.
Today feels very analogous to the Huddersfield game in 19/20.
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Post by glpotter on Dec 9, 2023 17:54:39 GMT
Don’t even think about a devils advocate after that
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