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Post by PotterLog on Dec 10, 2023 22:18:14 GMT
We’re not getting relegated in my view as there are 3 clubs in deep do do already and we have a reasonable cushion - big question for me is how much of a tune can a new incumbent get out of this odd pool of players…..if so top half and a cheeky late tilt at the play offs is entirely possible although I concede mid-table the more likely….. We’re potentially in the bottom three by this Wednesday evening, that’s not a reasonable cushion
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 10, 2023 22:31:20 GMT
We’re not getting relegated in my view as there are 3 clubs in deep do do already and we have a reasonable cushion - big question for me is how much of a tune can a new incumbent get out of this odd pool of players…..if so top half and a cheeky late tilt at the play offs is entirely possible although I concede mid-table the more likely….. We’re potentially in the bottom three by this Wednesday evening, that’s not a reasonable cushion Ok we’ve a reasonable cushion over Weds and Rotherham - both of which are already doomed IMHO - the next 10 or 11 places are only a couple of wins between top and bottom and therefore is wide open and I truly believe there are at least 2 or 3 of those worse than us overall and I am not worried at this juncture - for me it wasn’t the threat of relegation that had me calling for his head but the increasing likelihood of not being able to exceed last years failure …….
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 15:36:16 GMT
We’re potentially in the bottom three by this Wednesday evening, that’s not a reasonable cushion Ok we’ve a reasonable cushion over Weds and Rotherham - both of which are already doomed IMHO - the next 10 or 11 places are only a couple of wins between top and bottom and therefore is wide open and I truly believe there are at least 2 or 3 of those worse than us overall and I am not worried at this juncture - for me it wasn’t the threat of relegation that had me calling for his head but the increasing likelihood of not being able to exceed last years failure ……. We all agree AN needed to go . But Sheffield Wednesday and Rotherham are in better form than us , QPR and Huddersfield are in better form than us , the entire league is in better form than us. On current form, we are finishing bottom of the league. Hopefully a new manager will change things for the better. Otherwise, we finish bottom.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 12, 2023 15:39:34 GMT
Ok we’ve a reasonable cushion over Weds and Rotherham - both of which are already doomed IMHO - the next 10 or 11 places are only a couple of wins between top and bottom and therefore is wide open and I truly believe there are at least 2 or 3 of those worse than us overall and I am not worried at this juncture - for me it wasn’t the threat of relegation that had me calling for his head but the increasing likelihood of not being able to exceed last years failure ……. We all agree AN needed to go . But Sheffield Wednesday and Rotherham are in better form than us , QPR and Huddersfield are in better form than us , the entire league is in better form than us. On current form, we are finishing bottom of the league. Hopefully a new manager will change things for the better. Otherwise, we finish bottom. Great reductionism.
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 12, 2023 15:43:25 GMT
Still loads of time to change things around, where we are in March will see which way it goes
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 12, 2023 16:15:36 GMT
To give some perspective on our track record of managers we have looked like relegation candidates under:
Hughes (a distinct possibility although I think he would have kept us up) Lambert (succeeded) Jones (would have succeeded) Neil (based on the Wednesday's performance a distinct possibility)
The only managers of late who didn't make us look like relegation candidates are;
Rowett (probably not promotion but not relegation either) MoN (as per Rowett but also actually stopped it happening)
So basically this appointment is going to have to buck the trend of 2 shit managers to every 1 competent manager. And on this scale Rowett counts as competent.
Nervous?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 12, 2023 16:41:10 GMT
Ok we’ve a reasonable cushion over Weds and Rotherham - both of which are already doomed IMHO - the next 10 or 11 places are only a couple of wins between top and bottom and therefore is wide open and I truly believe there are at least 2 or 3 of those worse than us overall and I am not worried at this juncture - for me it wasn’t the threat of relegation that had me calling for his head but the increasing likelihood of not being able to exceed last years failure ……. We all agree AN needed to go . But Sheffield Wednesday and Rotherham are in better form than us , QPR and Huddersfield are in better form than us , the entire league is in better form than us. On current form, we are finishing bottom of the league. Hopefully a new manager will change things for the better. Otherwise, we finish bottom. Fair comment - I do agree that's worst case scenario for sure - that said, I think we'll get a bounce now, hopefully starting tonight as the more I read the more it looks likely that the players were increasingly losing faith in AN and he may have actually "lost the dressing room" to some degree - anyhow, we shall see - I am going up for the first time in 4 years tonight so all this has piqued my interest - who knows, a "rock the city" managerial appointment might see this stay-away scuttling off to get a half season ticket !!!
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Post by mcw on Dec 12, 2023 16:47:07 GMT
We all agree AN needed to go . But Sheffield Wednesday and Rotherham are in better form than us , QPR and Huddersfield are in better form than us , the entire league is in better form than us. On current form, we are finishing bottom of the league. Hopefully a new manager will change things for the better. Otherwise, we finish bottom. Fair comment - I do agree that's worst case scenario for sure - that said, I think we'll get a bounce now, hopefully starting tonight as the more I read the more it looks likely that the players were increasingly losing faith in AN and he may have actually "lost the dressing room" to some degree - anyhow, we shall see - I am going up for the first time in 4 years tonight so all this has piqued my interest - who knows, a "rock the city" managerial appointment might see this stay-away scuttling off to get a half season ticket !!! We have to hope beyond hope that the players had actually downed tools, because if they were trying under AN and playing to potential then we are right royally screwed.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 12, 2023 16:47:25 GMT
Only 9 points off the Play-Offs fellas.
It's on.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 12, 2023 21:57:52 GMT
Yes.
We're one of the worst sides in the league - going to have to really grind out some results and roll our sleeves up.
We just somehow seem to keep getting worse and worse.
How did it come to this?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 12, 2023 21:59:19 GMT
I think we’ll just about scrape it but fuck me we’re rancid currently.
One point out of the last four fixtures is mind-boggling.
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Post by hamptonpig on Dec 12, 2023 22:00:23 GMT
Yes
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Post by Ron on Dec 12, 2023 22:01:19 GMT
As it stands we’re going to be lucky to avoid it.
If you don’t score goals and concede cheap ones it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out which way we’re going.
The sheer lack of concentration levels is astounding.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Dec 12, 2023 22:05:02 GMT
We're 19th with some nice, easy games coming up. Keep the faith.
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 12, 2023 22:09:29 GMT
We are determined to make it happen. That game should’ve been out of sight but for half hearted couldn’t be fuckin arsed finishing. It was obvious what would happen and it’s too much of a recurring theme to say we are unlucky. We aren’t unlucky we are wank and are in for a scrap…..but the players ain’t bothered or they would show greater application and professionalism than what we see week in, week out.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 12, 2023 22:09:43 GMT
Worst Stoke squad I’ve ever seen cast iron drop certainties no matter whose in charge , a disaster created entirely by Martin Neil and Jared until all three are removed we can’t start to recover . spiral now accelerating , not a goal anywhere in the team without Campbell whose so brittle and give aways every week it’s the guaranteed formula for relegation in any league.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 12, 2023 22:11:20 GMT
We're 19th with some nice, easy games coming up. Keep the faith. Easier than the last 4?
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Dec 12, 2023 22:11:49 GMT
We're 19th with some nice, easy games coming up. Keep the faith. Easier than the last 4? I forgot the winky thingy 😉
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 12, 2023 22:58:59 GMT
Yes.
Very concerned.
We can’t go down to league 1. We’ll be there for years.
Get someone in to keep us up.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 12, 2023 23:02:55 GMT
Yes. Very concerned. We can’t go down to league 1. We’ll be there for years. Get someone in to keep us up. We have the third richest owners in the entire football league, beaten only by Newcastle and Man City. We could be lining up against the Vale next season who’s owners put an appeal out on social media for volunteers to come and do some DIY at the ground. Let that one sink in for a second.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 12, 2023 23:05:07 GMT
The last two matches (both in terms of results and overall performances) against two poor opponents should set some alarm bells ringing.
It is so, so, so important that we make sure that we appoint the right manager.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 12, 2023 23:20:23 GMT
The last two matches (both in terms of results and overall performances) against two poor opponents should set some alarm bells ringing. It is so, so, so important that we make sure that we appoint the right manager. Massively. I’m very concerned. League 1 would be an absolute travesty.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 12, 2023 23:23:26 GMT
The last two matches (both in terms of results and overall performances) against two poor opponents should set some alarm bells ringing. It is so, so, so important that we make sure that we appoint the right manager. Massively. I’m very concerned. League 1 would be an absolute travesty. QPR play Plymouth tomorrow. If they win they are level on points with us.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 12, 2023 23:24:39 GMT
We haven’t won in 7 games.
Just let that sink in.
We are well and truly in a relegation battle.
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Post by onionman on Dec 12, 2023 23:42:25 GMT
We are absolutely doomed because this group of players is completely incapable of withstanding even the tiniest bit of pressure. They’re mentally weak, they have limited ability and no sense of how to manage a game.
As we get sucked into the scrap and the games get more and more crucial, these players will fail all the more miserably.
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Post by telfordstokie on Dec 12, 2023 23:48:00 GMT
We’re probably going to start the Baggies game in the bottom three. I do question whether these players are going to have the stomach for the fight - most of them seem to have come here in the hope/expectation of a promotion charge.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 12, 2023 23:57:47 GMT
I’m not cacking it too much yet as I think there is a decent first 11 to be had from what we’ve got, we just need someone to put it together and stop us being so vulnerable.
If we can muddle through to January with what we have and keep our heads above water, we can build from there. I just think confidence is absolutely fucked at the moment whereas we looked a decent side not even 3 weeks ago. Wheels have come off since Blackburn but it’s not irreversible.
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Post by mcw on Dec 13, 2023 0:03:22 GMT
We’re probably going to start the Baggies game in the bottom three. I do question whether these players are going to have the stomach for the fight - most of them seem to have come here in the hope/expectation of a promotion charge. That delusional bullshit summer transfer window and the whole Ricky/Alex/Jared media fest about how we were going to get a team on the front foot/the supporters are proud of etc pretty much blew so much smoke up the arses of these players that they expected it to be a cake walk. Unfortunately they’ve out to be a brittle, self pitying lot in the main and in no way fit for the rough and tumble of Champ football. We are in deep deep shit as this is a team that couldn’t fight it’s way out of a paper bag never mind a relegation scrap.
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Post by gawa on Dec 13, 2023 0:17:54 GMT
Once a new manager comes in I think there'll bea reaction and we'll climb the table. The squad, with a January transfer window round the corner, should be too strong to get relegated.
Just need someone to galvanise the squad and get a bit of positivity and confidence flowing. Once a few results come through then hopefully form and consistency will follow.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 13, 2023 0:20:49 GMT
Everything hangs on the next managerial appointment. If we get it right we'll push on and finish top half. Get it wrong and we're deep in the shit.
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