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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:02:44 GMT
If Mowbray is sacked before Alex Neil, we really do need to question what the club's ambitions are moving forwards.
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2023 15:10:44 GMT
If Mowbray is sacked before Alex Neil, we really do need to question what the club's ambitions are moving forwards. AN should be sacked regardless what Sunderland do re Mowbray is not a factor for us in anyway un less we want Mowbray as our manager |
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:13:34 GMT
If Mowbray is sacked before Alex Neil, we really do need to question what the club's ambitions are moving forwards. AN should be sacked regardless what Sunderland do re Mowbray is not a factor for us in anyway un less we want Mowbray as our manager It would amplify the fact we're given a man who is clearly not capable of achieving results at this football club much longer than we should. If Sunderland can reach the play offs and then sack their manager, all whilst still being above us in the league, whilst we just trundle along getting beat every week and being wank, then there's something inherently wrong at the top. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 30, 2023 15:14:14 GMT
Mowbray out, AN back to Sunderland.
Everyone wins.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 30, 2023 15:14:29 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81
Millwall 81
Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76
Norwich 75
Bham 70
Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65
QPR 55
Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. |
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:14:53 GMT
Mowbray out, AN back to Sunderland. Everyone wins.   if only! |
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2023 15:15:48 GMT
AN should be sacked regardless what Sunderland do re Mowbray is not a factor for us in anyway un less we want Mowbray as our manager It would amplify the fact we're given a man who is clearly not capable of achieving results at this football club much longer than we should. If Sunderland can reach the play offs and then sack their manager, all whilst still being above us in the league, whilst we just trundle along getting beat every week and being wank, then there's something inherently wrong at the top. what Sunderland do or don't do is nothing to do with us no idea why Sundrland would sack him, he's doing a fair job up there despite no striker Stoke should sack AN because he is continuing to fail |
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 30, 2023 15:18:34 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81
Millwall 81
Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76
Norwich 75
Bham 70
Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65
QPR 55
Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. Boro and WBA sitting top, managed by the two men I and many other's named as our no.1 targets. I could honestly cry when I think back to those two being available and we went all guns blazing for Alex Neil instead. |
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 30, 2023 15:30:43 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81
Millwall 81
Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76
Norwich 75
Bham 70
Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65
QPR 55
Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. Boro and WBA sitting top, managed by the two men I and many other's named as our no.1 targets. I could honestly cry when I think back to those two being available and we went all guns blazing for Alex Neil instead. And paid for the privilege |
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 30, 2023 16:13:09 GMT
It would amplify the fact we're given a man who is clearly not capable of achieving results at this football club much longer than we should. If Sunderland can reach the play offs and then sack their manager, all whilst still being above us in the league, whilst we just trundle along getting beat every week and being wank, then there's something inherently wrong at the top. what Sunderland do or don't do is nothing to do with us no idea why Sundrland would sack him, he's doing a fair job up there despite no striker Stoke should sack AN because he is continuing to fail He should have gone before the window. If a root and branch clear out was required, it should have started with him. |
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Post by greystokie on Nov 30, 2023 16:56:54 GMT
Odds on to end up here if AN gets chopped.😫
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2023 17:05:58 GMT
what Sunderland do or don't do is nothing to do with us no idea why Sundrland would sack him, he's doing a fair job up there despite no striker Stoke should sack AN because he is continuing to fail He should have gone before the window. If a root and branch clear out was required, it should have started with him. thats fine but we should sack manager on his failings here not because another club is sacking their manager |
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 30, 2023 17:23:20 GMT
He should have gone before the window. If a root and branch clear out was required, it should have started with him. thats fine but we should sack manager on his failings here not because another club is sacking their manager I agree with you completely. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 30, 2023 17:57:01 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81
Millwall 81
Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76
Norwich 75
Bham 70
Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65
QPR 55
Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. Boro and WBA sitting top, managed by the two men I and many other's named as our no.1 targets. I could honestly cry when I think back to those two being available and we went all guns blazing for Alex Neil instead. Doesnt look good on JC does it? |
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Post by milky on Nov 30, 2023 18:16:20 GMT
Boro and WBA sitting top, managed by the two men I and many other's named as our no.1 targets. I could honestly cry when I think back to those two being available and we went all guns blazing for Alex Neil instead. And paid for the privilege And as with Rowett actually went back a second time after previously being rejected. It's criminal ,it really is. |
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Post by Block 26 on Nov 30, 2023 18:38:39 GMT
Eustace at Birmingham whilst they were sitting in the play off places now this…
I’ve seen a few Sunderland games on sky this season & they’ve always looked like a young energetic good attacking side. To sack Mowbray could come back to bite them, after spending years in league 1 to then make the play offs in their first season back in the championship would be criminal.
Sunderland will be in or around the play off places come the end of the season so for the club to brand that with not being good enough then it just shows what a shambles our own club is.
JC had may as well come out & say “We’re constantly hovering over the relegation places, what more do you want?!”
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Post by peterthornesboots on Nov 30, 2023 19:03:43 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81
Millwall 81
Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76
Norwich 75
Bham 70
Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65
QPR 55
Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. Boro and WBA sitting top, managed by the two men I and many other's named as our no.1 targets. I could honestly cry when I think back to those two being available and we went all guns blazing for Alex Neil instead. Carrick had a reputation for being a fantastic coach and was very well thought of inside football for some of his work at Manchester United. I thought that he would have been perfect for us. A young, forward thinking coach who would have been guaranteed plenty of time by our owners. It would have been appealing to both parties. It would of been a gamble due to his inexperience at the time, but one that was worth taking in my opinion. |
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Post by xchpotter on Nov 30, 2023 21:38:22 GMT
Odds on to end up here if AN gets chopped.😫 That really does worry me when you consider the incompetence of the board in selecting managers. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 30, 2023 21:53:08 GMT
Don't even think we'd want that Kraken faced bollox
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Post by NassauDave on Nov 30, 2023 23:03:29 GMT
It would amplify the fact we're given a man who is clearly not capable of achieving results at this football club much longer than we should. If Sunderland can reach the play offs and then sack their manager, all whilst still being above us in the league, whilst we just trundle along getting beat every week and being wank, then there's something inherently wrong at the top. what Sunderland do or don't do is nothing to do with us no idea why Sundrland would sack him, he's doing a fair job up there despite no striker Stoke should sack AN because he is dog shit. Agreed. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 30, 2023 23:07:53 GMT
If Mowbray is sacked before Alex Neil, we really do need to question what the club's ambitions are moving forwards. AN should be sacked regardless what Sunderland do re Mowbray is not a factor for us in anyway un less we want Mowbray as our manager Do not even think about that prick becoming our manager. I'm off up the Vale if that happens 😆 |
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Nov 30, 2023 23:29:02 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81
Millwall 81
Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76
Norwich 75
Bham 70
Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65
QPR 55
Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. Christ almighty. Anyone got any positive stats they can quote? It gets more and more ludicrous at every turn. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 1, 2023 9:51:48 GMT
Think Mowbray has said he only wants gigs that are commmutable from his Teesside home. So that woukd rule us out
Leaves him with a smallish pool to fish in mind, the North East and Yorkshire
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 1, 2023 10:25:29 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81
Millwall 81
Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76
Norwich 75
Bham 70
Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65
QPR 55
Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. 7 teams with better points totals than us have sacked managers. We're like a benevolent rest home for toss managers. Easy street where you can get away with bloody anything. I reckon even I'd last a season as stoke manager and I know the square root of bugger all about coaching beyond under 11s grass roots football. And that's 9 a side 😆 |
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 1, 2023 11:07:42 GMT
I'd be surprised. Don't know what more Sunderland can expect - they're a good side at this level now who'll be right in the play-off mix. It'd be great to be as well-positioned for the future as them, with an actual identity and playing style. If you look at the Champ points won since the week Neil and Mowbray took charge, you can see which club is going the right way Boro 96 WBA 91 Cov 91 Sund 87 Bburn 85 PNE 83 Swans 81
Millwall 81
Watford 78Hull 77 BristC 76
Norwich 75
Bham 70
Cardiff 68Stoke 67 Hudds 65
QPR 55
Rotherham 53Managerial changes at all under-performing clubs with one very notable exception. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB2They're 4th in the calendar year table too. 7 teams with better points totals than us have sacked managers. We're like a benevolent rest home for toss managers. Easy street where you can get away with bloody anything. I reckon even I'd last a season as stoke manager and I know the square root of bugger all about coaching beyond under 11s grass roots football. And that's 9 a side 😆 Some would say Neil goes 9 a side when plays DJ and Gayle. |
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Post by barcaontrent on Dec 1, 2023 11:45:29 GMT
This is what always drives me mad when people say we can't keep changing managers.
Alex Neil is already one of the longest serving managers in the championship, he has been given a season and a half with free reign re transfers, appointments etc and we have arguably regressed.
Michael O'Neil had 3+ seasons.
Rowett and Jones we had no choice as position was untenable
Hughes had a season too long.
We aren't on a managerial merry go round, far from it. Instead we have Jon Coates crossing his fingers that it might magically come good some day instead of acting on the evidence and keeping them far far longer than they should.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 1, 2023 11:46:19 GMT
This is what always drives me mad when people say we can't keep changing managers. Alex Neil is already one of the longest serving managers in the championship, he has been given a season and a half with free reign re transfers, appointments etc and we have arguably regressed. Michael O'Neil had 3+ seasons. Rowett and Jones we had no choice as position was untenable Hughes had a season too long. We aren't on a managerial marry go round, far from it. Instead we have Jon Coates crossing his fingers that it might magically come good some day instead of acting on the evidence and keeping them far far longer than they should. Magic roundabout? |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Dec 1, 2023 11:59:35 GMT
If had employed Mowbray instead of AN there would have been a riot.
I didn't see much objection for AN when we where trying get him?
Funny how we're all wise after the event! AGAIN!
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 1, 2023 12:02:59 GMT
If had employed Mowbray instead of AN there would have been a riot. I didn't see much objection for AN when we where trying get him? Funny how we're all wise after the event! AGAIN! Nobody has called for Mowbray to be our manager😂. Quite the opposite. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 1, 2023 12:04:07 GMT
He should have gone before the window. If a root and branch clear out was required, it should have started with him. thats fine but we should sack manager on his failings here not because another club is sacking their manager I think the original point was more to do with another team acting on an underperforming manager whilst we sit around and continue to do nothing. Not that we should sack him because Sunderland might sack Mowbray. |
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if only!
