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Post by steewee on Nov 28, 2023 21:41:03 GMT
That whole match has got to be looked at for those decisions, surely?
That goal just then , the player dragged ours down , how is that any different to the penalty he gave QPR?
The yellow for the red, he barely breathed on him?
Such a pile of rubbish, constant turgid decisions that have got to go beyond the ref just being terrible ? What's going on?
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Post by thicknthin on Nov 28, 2023 21:46:59 GMT
Burger got booked when he grabbed their player on the edge of our box, 4 minutes later the same player dragged Burger back on the edge of their box, same offence, no booking š¤·āāļø Same all night, twat!
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Post by mrrine on Nov 28, 2023 21:47:49 GMT
Needs referring to standards and dropping to league 2.
the likelihood of which is 0
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Post by pipegatepotter on Nov 28, 2023 21:50:18 GMT
Itās about time Alex Neil came out and tells it how it is and FUCK the repercussions?! This ref has absolutely fucked us over tonight. Iād even take a points deduction if he showed some bollerx and took his players off in protest. Something HAS to be done about this.
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Post by chad on Nov 28, 2023 21:50:31 GMT
Heās was dogshit. But donāt let it cloud that we got done by a team who havenāt won at home all season and probably havenāt scored four since Adam was a lad
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Post by collo68 on Nov 28, 2023 21:52:38 GMT
Heās was dogshit. But donāt let it cloud that we got done by a team who havenāt won at home all season and probably havenāt scored four since Adam was a lad Heās cost us the game whatās the past got to do with anything
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Post by bigdave1 on Nov 28, 2023 21:56:04 GMT
He definitely cost us the game. Major decisions all given to them and same decisions ignored for us.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 28, 2023 21:56:22 GMT
Gave a penalty and a yellow card to Stevens for a minor tug on the QPR players shirt but they nearly take Wesleys (I think) shirt off from a corner and nothing. The defeat is down to the ref tonight he was shocking to put it mildly. Gouranga.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 28, 2023 21:56:55 GMT
He definitely cost us the game. Major decisions all given to them and same decisions ignored for us. Minor decisions all for them as wellā¦
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Post by bigdave1 on Nov 28, 2023 21:58:23 GMT
Minor infringements that he made major.
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 28, 2023 21:58:50 GMT
That whole match has got to be looked at for those decisions, surely? That goal just then , the player dragged ours down , how is that any different to the penalty he gave QPR? The yellow for the red, he barely breathed on him? Such a pile of rubbish, constant turgid decisions that have got to go beyond the ref just being terrible ? What's going on? Its almost like you don't think football is corrupt with agendas? If you played the game you would probably know it exists at all levels and in all countries. That's why I'm so for removing power from referees. Just wait for the sin bins š¤¦āāļø.
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Post by stantheman on Nov 28, 2023 21:59:41 GMT
Dire ref, but dire substitutions by us.
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 28, 2023 22:02:04 GMT
The referee was poor, pretty much the same as the rest of them that we have had. Nevertheless so were Stoke. IAM getting very close to giving up.
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 28, 2023 22:03:07 GMT
Ref was clearly biased but Stevens second booking was stupid and deserved. We should have been given a penalty for a shirt pull late on, which may have led to a draw. We didnāt deserve more.
Moronic substitutions weāre as big a part of tonightās shit show as a bent ref.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 28, 2023 22:03:12 GMT
A fucking crook but we were winning in spite of him. Then Neil fucked it.
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Post by collo68 on Nov 28, 2023 22:04:41 GMT
That whole match has got to be looked at for those decisions, surely? That goal just then , the player dragged ours down , how is that any different to the penalty he gave QPR? The yellow for the red, he barely breathed on him? Such a pile of rubbish, constant turgid decisions that have got to go beyond the ref just being terrible ? What's going on? Its almost like you don't think football is corrupt with agendas? If you played the game you would probably know it exists at all levels and in all countries. That's why I'm so for removing power from referees. Just wait for the sin bins š¤¦āāļø. Just seen the PSG penalty, the game is corrupt
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Post by chuckrocky on Nov 28, 2023 22:06:14 GMT
Nine yellows and a red in a game where I canāt remember a bad tackle.
His performance was so biased thereās absolutely no way he didnāt turn up to the game tonight already knowing which team he was going to favour.
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 28, 2023 22:16:56 GMT
Nine yellows and a red in a game where I canāt remember a bad tackle. His performance was so biased thereās absolutely no way he didnāt turn up to the game tonight already knowing which team he was going to favour. We are still living in the shadow of the Pullis era. Nobody likes us.
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Post by loosestools on Nov 28, 2023 22:17:30 GMT
The ref obviously needs sacking but we should have been capable of stuffing QPR tonight. End of. You just have to win games like this, you have to be good enough, anything less is failure.
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 28, 2023 22:20:49 GMT
Worst ref I've seen in ages. I think it was ineptitude more than anything. Alot like AN's subs there. Oof needs to go also.
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Post by robstokie on Nov 28, 2023 22:28:54 GMT
Dire ref, but dire substitutions by us. Yes, the ref was appalling, particularly the two decisions regarding the pen and the 2nd yellow, but could also be argued for a so called "experienced player" in Stevens, he was not streetwise at all. Also, our game management was so negative and allowed QPR to push us further and further back, eventually leading us to capitulate. Add to that bringing on Johnson and Hoever, who between them offered nothing and were a liability, Hoever getting caught out with schoolboy errors and Johnson hardly bust a gut and wasted possession on the rare occasions we had it. At 2-1, I would have bought Thompson on at Left-Back in place of Bae, Laurent on for Mmaee and Leris for Campbell. I would have gone 4-3-1-1, packed the middle of the pitch with Pearson just behind Burger and Laurent with Vidi at the top of the diamond and Leris as a mobile focal point - maybe bringing on Wesley in last 10 for Vidi and dropping Leris to the top of diamond to add extra legs to a press on the halfway line. When in possession, instruction would simply be to play balls into the corners, press them backwards and set up in the middle of the pitch, squeezing the middle third and forcing them to punt long balls into Dykes with the midfield 3 sitting in to mop up any second balls.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 28, 2023 22:31:46 GMT
Yep.
He was absolutely woeful.
Every big decision went their way.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 28, 2023 22:44:12 GMT
Ref was clearly biased but Stevens second booking was stupid and deserved. We should have been given a penalty for a shirt pull late on, which may have led to a draw. We didnāt deserve more. Moronic substitutions weāre as big a part of tonightās shit show as a bent ref. Just seen the sending off and he grabbed him then let go and then he went on before throwing himself to the ground. The pull had zero impact to him throwing himself to the floor. Rash by Stevens but very, very harsh. Thought the ref was terrible and incredibly one sided. Totally inconsistent in giving free kicks against us and literally the same challenges by them werenāt given. Thought the third was the sort of challenge that would be 9 times out of 10 given as a foul. There are times it feels like itās me but itās like most weeks I feel like Iām saying the same thing. Itās definately the exception when it feels like weāve had a good one. Iād say this season weāve had maybe 5 decent refs but some have been shocking.
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Post by BuzzB on Nov 28, 2023 22:51:18 GMT
Ref was clearly biased but Stevens second booking was stupid and deserved. We should have been given a penalty for a shirt pull late on, which may have led to a draw. We didnāt deserve more. Moronic substitutions weāre as big a part of tonightās shit show as a bent ref. Just seen the sending off and he grabbed him then let go and then he went on before throwing himself to the ground. The pull had zero impact to him throwing himself to the floor. Rash by Stevens but very, very harsh. Thought the ref was terrible and incredibly one sided. Totally inconsistent in giving free kicks against us and literally the same challenges by them werenāt given. Thought the third was the sort of challenge that would be 9 times out of 10 given as a foul. There are times it feels like itās me but itās like most weeks I feel like Iām saying the same thing. Itās definately the exception when it feels like weāve had a good one. Iād say this season weāve had maybe 5 decent refs but some have been shocking. They committed 12 fouls, us 11, we got 5 yellows and one red, they got one yellow. Not a bad tackle in the game. Make it make sense someone.
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Post by apb1 on Nov 28, 2023 23:02:30 GMT
Utterly appalling officials, even the linesmen were crap. No penalty should have been given for them ergo no card, they did worse fouls than we did and got no cards when we had, never a second yellow, Hoever fouled for their third, Clark fouled twice and no penalty. Itās absolutely stinking corruption but presumably not even for bribery, just petty āHomerā behaviour.
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Post by loosestools on Nov 28, 2023 23:05:15 GMT
Utterly appalling officials, even the linesmen were crap. No penalty should have been given for them ergo no card, they did worse fouls than we did and got no cards when we had, never a second yellow, Hoever fouled for their third, Clark fouled twice and no penalty. Itās absolutely stinking corruption but presumably not even for bribery, just petty āHomerā behaviour. We dont appear to have refs at our home games who are 'homers' - just the opposite.
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Post by apb1 on Nov 28, 2023 23:07:36 GMT
Utterly appalling officials, even the linesmen were crap. No penalty should have been given for them ergo no card, they did worse fouls than we did and got no cards when we had, never a second yellow, Hoever fouled for their third, Clark fouled twice and no penalty. Itās absolutely stinking corruption but presumably not even for bribery, just petty āHomerā behaviour. We dont appear to have refs at our home games who are 'homers' - just the opposite. We get āIām man enough to be anti stoke even at stokeā instead
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 28, 2023 23:08:00 GMT
Gave a penalty and a yellow card to Stevens for a minor tug on the QPR players shirt but they nearly take Wesleys (I think) shirt off from a corner and nothing. The defeat is down to the ref tonight he was shocking to put it mildly. Gouranga. A shirt pull is a yellow under the laws, minor or not but he missed ours He certainly played his part as did our substitutions afterwards
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Nov 28, 2023 23:36:33 GMT
Gave a penalty and a yellow card to Stevens for a minor tug on the QPR players shirt but they nearly take Wesleys (I think) shirt off from a corner and nothing. The defeat is down to the ref tonight he was shocking to put it mildly. Gouranga. A shirt pull is a yellow under the laws, minor or not but he missed ours He certainly played his part as did our substitutions afterwards If those tugs are yellows, it would end up 5 a side.
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Post by jebbstuart on Nov 28, 2023 23:45:14 GMT
Lets all blame the ref again. He was not great but had a better game than every one of the Stoke team except perhaps Bonham. We are a very poor team how many times did we give the ball away fail to defend the line, pass to a QPR player. If i gave the ref 2 i would give ever Stoke player a 1 we are embarrassing, led by a turd played shit and all we do is blame someone else. No we are a shit team at the moment.
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