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Post by idle on Feb 2, 2024 11:54:05 GMT
I think the reason we have a decent defensive record is that the midfielders don't commit to the attack in order to bolster the defence which in turn means we don't score enough. My concern is that if we become more expansive we will expose the defence and concede more - which I think is what we saw against Brighton and Sunderland. We've been more expansive in all games since Schuey took over, committing more players to attack. And still failing to score from open play! We just got worse defensively in the last two games, incidentally when Iversen and Wilmot came into the team (not that I blame them, it were the other defenders who failed, and badly).
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Post by lordb on Feb 2, 2024 12:07:04 GMT
Done about as much as we can haven’t we this window, without outgoings it was always going to be difficult to significant business. I wouldn’t keep any of the players whose contracts are expiring in the summer. In the central striker department we’ll be left with Mmaee, Ennis, Lowe and Tezgel and given we’ve tried to offload Mmaee in this window it wouldn’t surprise me if we try again in the summer so there’s plenty of room for movement there. CB’s will be just Wilmot and Rose so we’ll definitely be looking to add there. I don’t think either of those two are good enough for a promotion chasing side so hopefully we can do some good business. LB - We’ll need two in that position. RB - No real movement needed there, Junior should be starting and Gooch can cover there and other positions if he’s happy to be a big part player. Wide players - Apart from a couple of very good goals I haven’t seen anything in Leris and no idea what Schuey makes of him. Vidigal has done ok but I don’t think hens anything special and probably not good enough for a promotion chasing side. When can Jojic make the step up? Where will Bae ultimately end up? CM - They’re pretty much all under contract and will be on good money so we need to have some offers for them to change things up. The teamtalk guy seems to knows his stuff we’re happy to see the back of Baker, Johnson and Pearson. Wouldn’t surprise me if Laurent was a possible departure too. I'd keep Thompson
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Post by tuum on Feb 2, 2024 12:15:26 GMT
SS was very clear post-Sunderland that he wasn't concerned with the defensive side of things. His focus seemed to be all about converting chances. I was amazed he didn't think the gaping holes at FB position were a cause for concern. He just seemed to dismiss the issue and got back on to talking about attacking. Brave man! p.s. I note that the Plymouth fans when referring to SS use $$ instead. Is using SS really that bad? Just asking. I just find it quicker to write SS than Schumacher or $$. I think they now refer to him as $$ because he came to us for the money. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by a on Feb 2, 2024 12:24:35 GMT
I’m disappointed that Hooijdonk didn’t end up here on loan, he’s gone to Norwich. He looks like the big target man we needed. Hopefully the signings we’ve made do the business and at least they’re permanent, but even that carries its own risk. We have Wesley lol Oh yea, I forgot 😉
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 2, 2024 12:51:08 GMT
A couple of years ago we re-homed a bichon frise a real cutie who when there is Stoke match online sits on my knee and seems to watch,i keep telling wife he is a Stokie with the signing of the dutch lad he really is,dogs name is MILLION I bet your Dogs got more leads than Stoke have had. Too right he has,spoilt rotten . At the start he slept on our bed,now we sleep on his
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 2, 2024 12:51:35 GMT
Done about as much as we can haven’t we this window, without outgoings it was always going to be difficult to significant business. I wouldn’t keep any of the players whose contracts are expiring in the summer. In the central striker department we’ll be left with Mmaee, Ennis, Lowe and Tezgel and given we’ve tried to offload Mmaee in this window it wouldn’t surprise me if we try again in the summer so there’s plenty of room for movement there. CB’s will be just Wilmot and Rose so we’ll definitely be looking to add there. I don’t think either of those two are good enough for a promotion chasing side so hopefully we can do some good business. LB - We’ll need two in that position. RB - No real movement needed there, Junior should be starting and Gooch can cover there and other positions if he’s happy to be a big part player. Wide players - Apart from a couple of very good goals I haven’t seen anything in Leris and no idea what Schuey makes of him. Vidigal has done ok but I don’t think hens anything special and probably not good enough for a promotion chasing side. When can Jojic make the step up? Where will Bae ultimately end up? CM - They’re pretty much all under contract and will be on good money so we need to have some offers for them to change things up. The teamtalk guy seems to knows his stuff we’re happy to see the back of Baker, Johnson and Pearson. Wouldn’t surprise me if Laurent was a possible departure too. I'd keep Thompson If he’s happy enough to be a squad player then I’d be ok with that.
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Post by stokefanone on Feb 2, 2024 12:54:04 GMT
Surprised we didn't strengthen at the back,I know we are in 7th for the best defence,but we only have to concede 1 and it's game over,because We struggle to score 1 never mind 2. I think you have answered your own question there. We are not conceding that many goals, but we are failing to score. Obviously goals are needed. Even if we strenghened the defence and conceded one or two less goals, we would still not win matches. Goal scorers are needed at the club, getting them is the problem, we have not signed an obvious scorer at this level in this window, looks like we will have to limp on until next season now, lets hope the wind changes then!
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Post by TinkerT on Feb 2, 2024 13:35:44 GMT
So how did we do? Was that good enough for everyone? Tried to move on Wesley and few others but wages were the big problem.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 2, 2024 13:43:09 GMT
So how did we do? Was that good enough for everyone? Tried to move on Wesley and few others but wages were the big problem. I think it was good as it wasn't going to get under the circumstances, a left back would have been ideal but I guess incoming transfers were dependant on moving out the likes of Wesley which wasn't possible?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 2, 2024 14:14:44 GMT
Just noticed the Turkish window is still open until Feb 9th so there's an option still to get rid of a couple that way if we need to...........
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Post by jokker on Feb 2, 2024 14:34:17 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 2, 2024 14:36:46 GMT
Thierry Small (left back) has left Southampton by mutual consent. Highly sough after a couple of season ago when he was at Everton, needs a club to get his career back on track.......
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Post by baconburger on Feb 2, 2024 15:49:21 GMT
£30.5 mil for Wharton 😱😱😱, he’s ok but not in that kind of money 🤷♂️🤦♂️ Not sure where you’re pulling that figure from, it was reported yesterday by reliable sources to be £18M rising to £22M with add ons. Apart from that your point stands. You really don’t get much for your money with young British players with potential.
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Post by baconburger on Feb 2, 2024 15:54:50 GMT
Done about as much as we can haven’t we this window, without outgoings it was always going to be difficult to significant business. I wouldn’t keep any of the players whose contracts are expiring in the summer. In the central striker department we’ll be left with Mmaee, Ennis, Lowe and Tezgel and given we’ve tried to offload Mmaee in this window it wouldn’t surprise me if we try again in the summer so there’s plenty of room for movement there. CB’s will be just Wilmot and Rose so we’ll definitely be looking to add there. I don’t think either of those two are good enough for a promotion chasing side so hopefully we can do some good business. LB - We’ll need two in that position. RB - No real movement needed there, Junior should be starting and Gooch can cover there and other positions if he’s happy to be a big part player. Wide players - Apart from a couple of very good goals I haven’t seen anything in Leris and no idea what Schuey makes of him. Vidigal has done ok but I don’t think hens anything special and probably not good enough for a promotion chasing side. When can Jojic make the step up? Where will Bae ultimately end up? CM - They’re pretty much all under contract and will be on good money so we need to have some offers for them to change things up. The teamtalk guy seems to knows his stuff we’re happy to see the back of Baker, Johnson and Pearson. Wouldn’t surprise me if Laurent was a possible departure too. I'd keep Thompson Yup ideal back up player. Always ready to play, makes no fuss when he doesn’t start, versatile and as AN said takes instruction well. Never going to have you on the edge of your seat but does what’s asked of him. Not his fault if the instruction/game plan is wrong or team mates don’t execute like last Saturday.
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Post by thornestein on Feb 2, 2024 16:25:02 GMT
£30.5 mil for Wharton 😱😱😱, he’s ok but not in that kind of money 🤷♂️🤦♂️ Not sure where you’re pulling that figure from, it was reported yesterday by reliable sources to be £18M rising to £22M with add ons. Apart from that your point stands. You really don’t get much for your money with young British players with potential. sky sports new app
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Post by baconburger on Feb 2, 2024 16:39:43 GMT
Not sure where you’re pulling that figure from, it was reported yesterday by reliable sources to be £18M rising to £22M with add ons. Apart from that your point stands. You really don’t get much for your money with young British players with potential. sky sports new app www.bbc.com/sport/football/68172882.ampJust about every other media has it at around £18M rising to around £22M give or take half a mill.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 2, 2024 16:43:38 GMT
£30.5 mil for Wharton 😱😱😱, he’s ok but not in that kind of money 🤷♂️🤦♂️ Is 18 rising to 22.5 isn’t it? We are on about the Blackburn midfielder?
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 2, 2024 16:45:33 GMT
Just noticed the Turkish window is still open until Feb 9th so there's an option still to get rid of a couple that way if we need to........... Could see Wesley going to turkey. Lowe would get more minutes as a result too. Could we still sign a free transfer leftback? Did the ex Swansea guy go anywhere?
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Post by thornestein on Feb 2, 2024 17:04:49 GMT
i probably missread it , it was dark and the driver i was training was hitting every pothole on the M6 this morning
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Post by wannabee on Feb 2, 2024 17:04:57 GMT
Maybe we don't show enough love to sign the players we want
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 2, 2024 17:09:34 GMT
i probably missread it , it was dark and the driver i was training was hitting every pothole on the M6 this morning Maybe train him to avoid the potholes…
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Post by thornestein on Feb 2, 2024 17:11:46 GMT
i probably missread it , it was dark and the driver i was training was hitting every pothole on the M6 this morning Maybe train him to avoid the potholes… have you driven a hgv up the M6 in the dark , you can’t miss them , plus i wasn’t training him to drive or he wouldn’t be on the motorway
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Feb 2, 2024 17:15:51 GMT
Thierry Small (left back) has left Southampton by mutual consent. Highly sough after a couple of season ago when he was at Everton, needs a club to get his career back on track....... 6 month deal with 1 year extension option and he would be worth the risk
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 2, 2024 17:36:06 GMT
Thierry Small (left back) has left Southampton by mutual consent. Highly sough after a couple of season ago when he was at Everton, needs a club to get his career back on track....... 6 month deal with 1 year extension option and he would be worth the risk At least it’d be a Small fee.
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Post by DentySCFC on Feb 2, 2024 17:39:43 GMT
6 month deal with 1 year extension option and he would be worth the risk At least it’d be a Small fee. Any relation to Bryan?
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 2, 2024 17:42:11 GMT
At least it’d be a Small fee. Any relation to Bryan? Yes, nephew.
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 2, 2024 17:44:48 GMT
Looking at our defensive record and what our main problem was in the last two matches (spooning chances and not doing your recovery runs) I can see why Steve has prioritised strikers and forward players. Yes there is a big issue at LB, and I'd have preferred that be a priority, we should have enough in the building in the striker department after the summer. However the situation the manager will have seen over the last few games is a lack of pace, and no ability to hurt an opponent, a front foot manager like we currently have, who's tactics rely on us attacking the opponent, this poses a big problem. If we can turn some of the chances we have missed the last few games into goals, the games will change and the other team will need to take risks, leaving more space. Our defence hasn't been shocking, a few shaky moments, but it isn't the worst in the league. This summer however, can we please get a Left Back! I feel all my life supporting Stoke apart from the Erik Peters days (I am 31) we have always had a left back issue. Really wish we'd got Harrison Burrows. When it comes to LB/LWBs, it's hard to look past him as he's quality. I see Coventry bought Mason-Clark from Peterborough and sent him back till the end of the season, so I was hoping we could have done the same with Burrows. Fingers crossed we can go back in for him in the summer.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 2, 2024 17:47:15 GMT
Small's gone to Charlton
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 2, 2024 17:51:51 GMT
Of all the photos they could take of a player for an article, they decide to use one where he’s blowing out his arse and getting skinned on the wing 😂
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Post by chad on Feb 2, 2024 17:59:26 GMT
Looking at our defensive record and what our main problem was in the last two matches (spooning chances and not doing your recovery runs) I can see why Steve has prioritised strikers and forward players. Yes there is a big issue at LB, and I'd have preferred that be a priority, we should have enough in the building in the striker department after the summer. However the situation the manager will have seen over the last few games is a lack of pace, and no ability to hurt an opponent, a front foot manager like we currently have, who's tactics rely on us attacking the opponent, this poses a big problem. If we can turn some of the chances we have missed the last few games into goals, the games will change and the other team will need to take risks, leaving more space. Our defence hasn't been shocking, a few shaky moments, but it isn't the worst in the league. This summer however, can we please get a Left Back! I feel all my life supporting Stoke apart from the Erik Peters days (I am 31) we have always had a left back issue. Really wish we'd got Harrison Burrows. When it comes to LB/LWBs, it's hard to look past him as he's quality. I see Coventry bought Mason-Clark from Peterborough and sent him back till the end of the season, so I was hoping we could have done the same with Burrows. Fingers crossed we can go back in for him in the summer. Harry Burrows. That would of been a great throw back signing
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