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Post by J-Roar on Sept 17, 2023 16:51:47 GMT
Funny how this is a problem when we lose. Not at all. There's been numerous posts about how poor radio Stokes coverage has been for various reasons for weeks if not years now, Win lose or draw, look back and you'll see them. It even made me laugh yesterday when saw yet another Radio Stoke connected thread! And none of these threads were started after defeats?
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Post by hoppo96 on Sept 18, 2023 9:29:08 GMT
they're second in league one. They're gonna get some coverage.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 18, 2023 9:45:34 GMT
they're second in league one. They're gonna get some coverage. They have the same amount of coverage whether they’re 2nd in league 1 or halfway in league 2,it’s ridiculous and no other local bbc stations do it I assure you
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Post by Timmy on Sept 18, 2023 9:57:28 GMT
they're second in league one. They're gonna get some coverage. They have the same amount of coverage whether they’re 2nd in league 1 or halfway in league 2,it’s ridiculous and no other local bbc stations do it I assure you And when you've got an unprofessional bumhole laughing all the time whenever he's talking
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 10:35:37 GMT
Which part of that is bollocks? To say they should be given minimal coverage is a load of bollocks. They play in the same city as us, so why shouldn't they have the same coverage?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 18, 2023 10:41:20 GMT
Which part of that is bollocks? To say they should be given minimal coverage is a load of bollocks. They play in the same city as us, so why shouldn't they have the same coverage? Supporter base for starters
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 10:51:53 GMT
To say they should be given minimal coverage is a load of bollocks. They play in the same city as us, so why shouldn't they have the same coverage? Supporter base for starters We are the bigger club, but that doesn't mean that they should have "minimal" coverage. I don't buy that at all.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 18, 2023 11:11:00 GMT
Supporter base for starters We are the bigger club, but that doesn't mean that they should have "minimal" coverage. I don't buy that at all. I don’t care what you buy to be honest,I’m telling you no other bbc local station give a lower league club the coverage Vale and Crewe get
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Sept 18, 2023 11:48:09 GMT
If only there was another station in the area - maybe a commercial one that used to have a sports programme - that could seize the opportunity to restore the balance of output based on relative supporter base. Oh wait.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 12:10:03 GMT
We are the bigger club, but that doesn't mean that they should have "minimal" coverage. I don't buy that at all. I don’t care what you buy to be honest,I’m telling you no other bbc local station give a lower league club the coverage Vale and Crewe get Well isn't that just a real shame for you.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 18, 2023 12:14:16 GMT
Which part of that is bollocks? To say they should be given minimal coverage is a load of bollocks. They play in the same city as us, so why shouldn't they have the same coverage? They are a league below us (historically it is normally more than that) and they have a quarter of our fan base and that is being extremely generous to them so the majority of fans listening will most likely be Stoke fans. No other radio station in the country gives more coverage to their areas smaller teams and I'm not saying no coverage at all but in comparison to us Vale should be getting a small amount of coverage.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 18, 2023 13:10:29 GMT
I don’t care what you buy to be honest,I’m telling you no other bbc local station give a lower league club the coverage Vale and Crewe get Well isn't that just a real shame for you. Id expect that sort of reply from you Charles👏
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 18, 2023 14:55:46 GMT
Which part of that is bollocks? To say they should be given minimal coverage is a load of bollocks. They play in the same city as us, so why shouldn't they have the same coverage? It makes me laugh how when we were in the prem we whined about being last on MOTD and all the coverage was about Man Utd. Now, when the smaller club gets some coverage we wank on about club size, crowd size, history. So self aware!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 16:37:39 GMT
To say they should be given minimal coverage is a load of bollocks. They play in the same city as us, so why shouldn't they have the same coverage? It makes me laugh how when we were in the prem we whined about being last on MOTD and all the coverage was about Man Utd. Now, when the smaller club gets some coverage we wank on about club size, crowd size, history. So self aware! Bingo.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 18, 2023 16:50:38 GMT
To say they should be given minimal coverage is a load of bollocks. They play in the same city as us, so why shouldn't they have the same coverage? It makes me laugh how when we were in the prem we whined about being last on MOTD and all the coverage was about Man Utd. Now, when the smaller club gets some coverage we wank on about club size, crowd size, history. So self aware! Sorry Mr Sandoz/Bowers, Your definitely not reading the room correctly here and barking up the wrong tree believing the only moans about Radio Stoke come after defeats! Myself & I know CrouchPotato have been banging on about how poor Radio Stoke coverage of SCFC has been for seasons now, again whether that be following a win, loss or drawn matches! The main thrust initially was about how poor Radio Stoke was after night fixtures they couldn't wait to get off air and always said you'll hear the aftermatch interviews in the morning show! All other BBC Sports covered stations used to stay on air and gauge after match reactions & interviews before going off. This was eventually changed and Radio Stoke now do generally stay on air following a night match and interviews are played before they blend back into BBC regional shows which was about time and long overdue. This used to be a general swipe at how poor Radio Stoke as a whole used to service its local clubs. The mere fact for years now SCFC are broadcast on FM and Vale on DAB speaks volumes. You're deluded thinking these issues are only raised as it happens right now that Vale have hit a purple patch & we're still to get going. Stoke could shoot to the top of the table & Vale could slip down the league, nothing would change, its been the same for seasons now. Vale and Crewe have ex players, local knowledgeable characters reporting on their clubs. Stoke have a guy from London and someone who had a short loan spell with us years and years ago generally covering us, neither with any allegiance to us aside from coming under the Radio Stoke umbrella! This is poor and if you don't agree that's fine, but to think we're being small minded and anti Vale is definitely not the case.
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2023 16:54:23 GMT
It makes me laugh how when we were in the prem we whined about being last on MOTD and all the coverage was about Man Utd. Now, when the smaller club gets some coverage we wank on about club size, crowd size, history. So self aware! Sorry Mr Sandoz/Bowers, Your definitely not reading the room correctly here and barking up the wrong tree believing the only moans about Radio Stoke come after defeats! Myself & I know CrouchPotato have been banging on about how poor Radio Stoke coverage of SCFC has been for seasons now, again whether that be following a win, loss or drawn matches! The main thrust initially was about how poor Radio Stoke was after night fixtures they couldn't wait to get off air and always said you'll hear the aftermatch interviews in the morning show! All other BBC Sports covered stations used to stay on air and gauge after match reactions & interviews before going off. This was eventually changed and Radio Stoke now do generally stay on air following a night match and interviews are played before they blend back into BBC regional shows which was about time and long overdue. Thr mere fact for years now SCFC are broadcast on FM and Vale on DAB speaks volumes. You're deluded thinking these issues are only raised as it happens right now that Vale have hit a purple patch & we're still to get going. Stoke could shoot to the top of the table & Vale could slip down the league, nothing would change, its been the same fro seasons now Thats a key point DAB is the primary method of broadcast moving forwards yet its Vale, a club with a massively smaller fan base that gets DAB that gets priority
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Post by callas12 on Sept 18, 2023 16:55:50 GMT
Not at all. There's been numerous posts about how poor radio Stokes coverage has been for various reasons for weeks if not years now, Win lose or draw, look back and you'll see them. It even made me laugh yesterday when saw yet another Radio Stoke connected thread! And none of these threads were started after defeats? Totally irrelevant!
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 18, 2023 17:00:19 GMT
To say they should be given minimal coverage is a load of bollocks. They play in the same city as us, so why shouldn't they have the same coverage? It makes me laugh how when we were in the prem we whined about being last on MOTD and all the coverage was about Man Utd. Now, when the smaller club gets some coverage we wank on about club size, crowd size, history. So self aware! That is completely the point we are trying to make. Man United etc are on match of the day first because like it or not more fans want to watch them first. We should be on DAB because we have the bigger audience of listeners in our local area for radio Stoke who tune in to listen to Stoke. The fact that Vale are on DAB and we are on FM speaks volumes about how backwards radio Stoke are mate.
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Post by jestershat on Sept 18, 2023 17:04:16 GMT
I don't wish to upset people but (hear me out) the argument that Vale should get less coverage than us makes me a little uncomfortable. Maybe, just maybe, the lack of coverage may be a factor in the relatively smaller following that the Vale have. Had they, in the past, had the same coverage, kids might have decided to follow the Vale rather than Stoke. We all decry many Mans Utd and City, Liverpool and London fans for being 'Glory Hunters'. But, on a local basis, aren't we just 'Glory Hunters' in our own way? Stoke have won stuff, so we follow them. Vale, not so much, so we follow them...not so much. Stoke being, historically, the bigger club just perpetuates the inclination of North Staffs supporters to align themselves with Stoke (the 'bigger' club) rather than with Vale (the 'smaller' club'). I think that the 'coverage' problem is a case of being a football fan or simply a Stoke fan.
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2023 17:12:48 GMT
I don't wish to upset people but (hear me out) the argument that Vale should get less coverage than us makes me a little uncomfortable. Maybe, just maybe, the lack of coverage may be a factor in the relatively smaller following that the Vale have. Had they, in the past, had the same coverage, kids might have decided to follow the Vale rather than Stoke. We all decry many Mans Utd and City, Liverpool and London fans for being 'Glory Hunters'. But, on a local basis, aren't we just 'Glory Hunters' in our own way? Stoke have won stuff, so we follow them. Vale, not so much, so we follow them...not so much. Stoke being, historically, the bigger club just perpetuates the inclination of North Staffs supporters to align themselves with Stoke (the 'bigger' club) rather than with Vale (the 'smaller' club'). I think that the 'coverage' problem is a case of being a football fan or simply a Stoke fan. At the moment they get priority as they are on DAB The minimum that should occur is that Stoke should be on DAB and Vale on FM As has been demonstrated no other local radio station where one club is significantly bigger than the other has equal coverage It's absurd
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 18, 2023 17:18:33 GMT
Do folk actually believe that other local stations give that much airtime to teams in league one and two as per Radio Stoke🤣 Radio Sheffield cover Sheff Utd,Sheff Wed,Rotherham,Barnsley,Doncaster and Chesterfield,I wonder which 2 clubs get the most coverage because THEY HAVE a larger fanbase Radio Derby cover Derby and Burton,guess which club gets 95% of coverage 🤔 Radio Nottingham cover Forest,Notts C and Mansfield,same again who gets the most coverage? Radio WM cover Villa,Birmingham,WBA,Wolves and Walsall.This is a harder one but can you imagine Walsall getting the coverage Vale & Crewe get 🤣 I could go through many many more across the country and I assure you Radio Stoke is not only amateurish in its coverage/knowledge but also tinpot when it comes to Stoke City. If some fans are happy with that then so be it but you’re being cheated out of top coverage for me and many others
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Post by callas12 on Sept 18, 2023 17:42:36 GMT
I don't wish to upset people but (hear me out) the argument that Vale should get less coverage than us makes me a little uncomfortable. Maybe, just maybe, the lack of coverage may be a factor in the relatively smaller following that the Vale have. Had they, in the past, had the same coverage, kids might have decided to follow the Vale rather than Stoke. We all decry many Mans Utd and City, Liverpool and London fans for being 'Glory Hunters'. But, on a local basis, aren't we just 'Glory Hunters' in our own way? Stoke have won stuff, so we follow them. Vale, not so much, so we follow them...not so much. Stoke being, historically, the bigger club just perpetuates the inclination of North Staffs supporters to align themselves with Stoke (the 'bigger' club) rather than with Vale (the 'smaller' club'). I think that the 'coverage' problem is a case of being a football fan or simply a Stoke fan. No-ones complaining that Vale get more coverage than Stoke & that they should get less, albeit Stoke should do as they are the areas highest ranked club & have been for years. The OP mentioned it as an observation but in reality the difference in coverage has been vast for ages now & has been discussed on other threads. & As Crouch says other areas cover their clubs on status basis, that should just be a given. But currently we're not even being treated as an equal.. For me, Stoke on DAB and to have someone with affiliation to the club and the area as a very minimum covering us on match days is all I ask for. Is that really to much to ask?! & it's nothing to do with gloryhunting or decrying our near neighbours, if they ever became the areas dominant team again then rightfully they deserve to get the perks of being the highest place club. But currently they're not, so they shouldn't.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 18, 2023 17:49:46 GMT
I don't wish to upset people but (hear me out) the argument that Vale should get less coverage than us makes me a little uncomfortable. Maybe, just maybe, the lack of coverage may be a factor in the relatively smaller following that the Vale have. Had they, in the past, had the same coverage, kids might have decided to follow the Vale rather than Stoke. We all decry many Mans Utd and City, Liverpool and London fans for being 'Glory Hunters'. But, on a local basis, aren't we just 'Glory Hunters' in our own way? Stoke have won stuff, so we follow them. Vale, not so much, so we follow them...not so much. Stoke being, historically, the bigger club just perpetuates the inclination of North Staffs supporters to align themselves with Stoke (the 'bigger' club) rather than with Vale (the 'smaller' club'). I think that the 'coverage' problem is a case of being a football fan or simply a Stoke fan. Perhaps more people align themselves to Stoke because they represent the city by name, and therefore represent a bigger area than Fail, who are named after a house in Longport?
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 18, 2023 18:05:13 GMT
I don't wish to upset people but (hear me out) the argument that Vale should get less coverage than us makes me a little uncomfortable. Maybe, just maybe, the lack of coverage may be a factor in the relatively smaller following that the Vale have. Had they, in the past, had the same coverage, kids might have decided to follow the Vale rather than Stoke. We all decry many Mans Utd and City, Liverpool and London fans for being 'Glory Hunters'. But, on a local basis, aren't we just 'Glory Hunters' in our own way? Stoke have won stuff, so we follow them. Vale, not so much, so we follow them...not so much. Stoke being, historically, the bigger club just perpetuates the inclination of North Staffs supporters to align themselves with Stoke (the 'bigger' club) rather than with Vale (the 'smaller' club'). I think that the 'coverage' problem is a case of being a football fan or simply a Stoke fan. Perhaps more people align themselves to Stoke because they represent the city by name, and therefore represent a bigger area than Fail, who are named after a house in Longport? They are very quick to diss the name of the city they come from
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Post by theoptimist on Sept 18, 2023 18:18:18 GMT
It makes me laugh how when we were in the prem we whined about being last on MOTD and all the coverage was about Man Utd. Now, when the smaller club gets some coverage we wank on about club size, crowd size, history. So self aware! That is completely the point we are trying to make. Man United etc are on match of the day first because like it or not more fans want to watch them first. We should be on DAB because we have the bigger audience of listeners in our local area for radio Stoke who tune in to listen to Stoke. The fact that Vale are on DAB and we are on FM speaks volumes about how backwards radio Stoke are mate. Bingo!
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Post by thevoid on Sept 18, 2023 19:06:35 GMT
Perhaps more people align themselves to Stoke because they represent the city by name, and therefore represent a bigger area than Fail, who are named after a house in Longport? They are very quick to diss the name of the city they come from They don't even put SOT on their merchandise do they, they put Burslem? Which is a little odd considering they used to play in Hanley.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 18, 2023 19:23:04 GMT
I don't wish to upset people but (hear me out) the argument that Vale should get less coverage than us makes me a little uncomfortable. Maybe, just maybe, the lack of coverage may be a factor in the relatively smaller following that the Vale have. Had they, in the past, had the same coverage, kids might have decided to follow the Vale rather than Stoke. We all decry many Mans Utd and City, Liverpool and London fans for being 'Glory Hunters'. But, on a local basis, aren't we just 'Glory Hunters' in our own way? Stoke have won stuff, so we follow them. Vale, not so much, so we follow them...not so much. Stoke being, historically, the bigger club just perpetuates the inclination of North Staffs supporters to align themselves with Stoke (the 'bigger' club) rather than with Vale (the 'smaller' club'). I think that the 'coverage' problem is a case of being a football fan or simply a Stoke fan. I don't think anyone could accuse a Stoke fan of being a glory hunter. Alot of Stoke fans support Stoke because it's in the family and you go because your old man took you etc. Likewise with Vale fans who are just as loyal (yes they do have some good, loyal fans). The idea that people support our club because we have won one major trophy as the second oldest professional club in world football is quite frankly laughable.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 18, 2023 19:25:12 GMT
They are very quick to diss the name of the city they come from They don't even put SOT on their merchandise do they, they put Burslem? Which is a little odd considering they used to play in Hanley. This is true and I've heard some of them declare their hatred of Stoke-on-Trent. I kid you not.
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Post by BlurtonRed on Sept 18, 2023 19:47:43 GMT
I'll be honest it's pissing me off. It doesn't help when I've got two nephews and a brother in law who support the Vale. It's got too the point now where I fucking hate the Vale. However as anyone bought the issue/issues up live on radio with the presenters?
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Post by Bagwash on Sept 18, 2023 20:20:33 GMT
I don't wish to upset people but (hear me out) the argument that Vale should get less coverage than us makes me a little uncomfortable. Maybe, just maybe, the lack of coverage may be a factor in the relatively smaller following that the Vale have. Had they, in the past, had the same coverage, kids might have decided to follow the Vale rather than Stoke. We all decry many Mans Utd and City, Liverpool and London fans for being 'Glory Hunters'. But, on a local basis, aren't we just 'Glory Hunters' in our own way? Stoke have won stuff, so we follow them. Vale, not so much, so we follow them...not so much. Stoke being, historically, the bigger club just perpetuates the inclination of North Staffs supporters to align themselves with Stoke (the 'bigger' club) rather than with Vale (the 'smaller' club'). I think that the 'coverage' problem is a case of being a football fan or simply a Stoke fan. I don't think anyone could accuse a Stoke fan of being a glory hunter. Alot of Stoke fans support Stoke because it's in the family and you go because your old man took you etc. Likewise with Vale fans who are just as loyal (yes they do have some good, loyal fans). The idea that people support our club because we have won one major trophy as the second oldest professional club in world football is quite frankly laughable. On the subject of glory hunting there were a fair few Vale fans who watched us regularly when we were in the prem. The very same people hate us with a passion nowadays.
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