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Post by skip on Sept 16, 2023 13:30:17 GMT
Brand has already disclosed that they are after him. Surprise, Surprise...trying to kill off someone who challenges MSM and the establishment. Sounds like they are sending out a warning....challenge us and we will take you down. We live in a very sick society. They did it with Tommy Robinson they're doing it with Andrew Tate they'll do it with Russel Brand. Weather you agree with them or not it's concerning how much power the media and 'they' have to cancel people and shut them down in what is meant to be a free speech democracy. Tommy Robinson - leader of a racist organisation, and compulsive liar. Andrew Tate - organised crime, sex trafficking, alt-right edgelord , narcissist. Two fine figures in contemporary society. If that's your thing.
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Post by skip on Sept 16, 2023 13:31:58 GMT
Awe, c'mon man. Channel 4 is not Establishment and Brand is no more closer to the truth than any of us. He's a rose water believer. (or those heavy rumours are true). I don't think it's about whether I or you believe him, don't believe him, follow him or unfollow him, that's irrelevant. Then what is relevant? You honestly believe the shadowy elite want Russell Brand closed down because he's an extremely rich hippy with a huge online fanbase?
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Post by skip on Sept 16, 2023 13:34:37 GMT
Have another go on whether, third time's a charm. 😳 Neither are racist, except the fella who was a member of the BNP and leader of the EDL (both well known anti-racism institutions of course). And of course, if only we left these poor innocents alone to continue to spout their vile, often deeply dark rhetoric filled with misinformation then democracy would be all the safer for it. Go easy when you progress from Velcro to laces. Wever you agree with him or not mate, do you think he shouldn't be allowed to speak ? He is allowed to speak as the link above attests. Doesn't stop him being a pint sized racist snide cunt who begs for money off his followers.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 16, 2023 13:39:14 GMT
Brand has already disclosed that they are after him. Surprise, Surprise...trying to kill off someone who challenges MSM and the establishment. Sounds like they are sending out a warning....challenge us and we will take you down. We live in a very sick society. They did it with Tommy Robinson they're doing it with Andrew Tate they'll do it with Russel Brand. Weather you agree with them or not it's concerning how much power the media and 'they' have to cancel people and shut them down in what is meant to be a free speech democracy. Tommy Robinson has convictions for violence, fraud and contempt of court as well as spreading racial hatred through his various activities on the far right. Tate promotes the abuse of women. Any self respecting media outlet should cancel them otherwise they are effectively promoting those views. It isn't "they" who cancel them. It is the owners of the media outlets that choose to cancel them on the basis of it infringing their policies or to avoid publishing stuff that is illegal. The OP has absolutely nothing to do with canceling or freedom of speech. Its actually an example of the media doing its job.
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Post by tigermoth on Sept 16, 2023 13:49:58 GMT
They did it with Tommy Robinson they're doing it with Andrew Tate they'll do it with Russel Brand. Weather you agree with them or not it's concerning how much power the media and 'they' have to cancel people and shut them down in what is meant to be a free speech democracy. Tommy Robinson has convictions for violence, fraud and contempt of court as well as spreading racial hatred through his various activities on the far right. Tate promotes the abuse of women. Any self respecting media outlet should cancel them otherwise they are effectively promoting those views. It isn't "they" who cancel them. It is the owners of the media outlets that choose to cancel them on the basis of it infringing their policies or to avoid publishing stuff that is illegal. The OP has absolutely nothing to do with canceling or freedom of speech. Its actually an example of the media doing its job. TR doesn't have convictions for racial hatred he's never been arrested for anything racial so that's a lie. The only conviction that's legit is the one where he chinned a copper before he was even known to the wider public, the rest were just an attempt to silence him. AT isn't a misogynist etc etc. He speaks about protecting women and providing for women but because he also promotes traditional gender roles the radical feminists and the mainstream media attemp to slander his name . Instead of watching shorts on YouTube and reading MSM headlines listen to what he actually has to say and if you still think the same then I think its safe to say you are a lost cause.
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Post by tigermoth on Sept 16, 2023 13:51:14 GMT
They did it with Tommy Robinson they're doing it with Andrew Tate they'll do it with Russel Brand. Weather you agree with them or not it's concerning how much power the media and 'they' have to cancel people and shut them down in what is meant to be a free speech democracy. Tommy Robinson - leader of a racist organisation, and compulsive liar. Andrew Tate - organised crime, sex trafficking, alt-right edgelord , narcissist. Two fine figures in contemporary society. If that's your thing. You can say that but neither are either and most people can see that hence the huge amount of support they get.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 16, 2023 13:56:03 GMT
Think we need a Channel 4 Dispatches outing tigermoth as crapslinger.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 16, 2023 13:59:46 GMT
Want me ask my boss for it mate? Please. Get them to make a bank transfer to: Mr Daniel Ceswithclams Acc No: 76349281 Sort Code: 34-07-01 Cheers. What did you do for them?
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Post by superjw on Sept 16, 2023 15:24:11 GMT
Russel Brand, leaks in the media now about it
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Post by skip on Sept 16, 2023 16:08:57 GMT
"Russell Brand signed my sister's friend's tits when they were 13/14. She suddenly whipped them out and asked - I was chaperoning them both and didn't have time before he did it to intervene with... could you actually not do that, please."
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Post by farfromhere on Sept 16, 2023 16:09:24 GMT
Brand came out as a spiritual healer who wanted to help people, then signed an exclusive contract to paywall his podcast. He then hit on the fact that conspiracy nuts would earn him $$$ on YouTube so he went into overdrive with clickbait bullshit.
All he cares about is $$$ and his own ego. Wouldn't be surprised if the accusations are true.
For critical thinkers, the Andrew Tate fanboys etc. are quick to dismiss serious accusations without seeing the evidence. The video brand released plays people like Tiger moth like a fiddle.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 16, 2023 16:13:27 GMT
If he’s accused of rape
Do t make a documentary go to the fucking police
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Post by eccythump on Sept 16, 2023 16:13:47 GMT
"Russell Brand signed my sister's friend's tits when they were 13/14. She suddenly whipped them out and asked - I was chaperoning them both and didn't have time before he did it to intervene with... could you actually not do that, please." The tits were 13/14...so she was mid 20s then.
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Post by skip on Sept 16, 2023 16:17:28 GMT
If he’s accused of rape Do t make a documentary go to the fucking police Have you seen the statistics for conviction for rape in the UK? And anyway, they may well have done for all we know.
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Post by eccythump on Sept 16, 2023 16:18:11 GMT
Tommy Robinson has convictions for violence, fraud and contempt of court as well as spreading racial hatred through his various activities on the far right. Tate promotes the abuse of women. Any self respecting media outlet should cancel them otherwise they are effectively promoting those views. It isn't "they" who cancel them. It is the owners of the media outlets that choose to cancel them on the basis of it infringing their policies or to avoid publishing stuff that is illegal. The OP has absolutely nothing to do with canceling or freedom of speech. Its actually an example of the media doing its job. TR doesn't have convictions for racial hatred he's never been arrested for anything racial so that's a lie. The only conviction that's legit is the one where he chinned a copper before he was even known to the wider public, the rest were just an attempt to silence him. AT isn't a misogynist etc etc. He speaks about protecting women and providing for women but because he also promotes traditional gender roles the radical feminists and the mainstream media attemp to slander his name . Instead of watching shorts on YouTube and reading MSM headlines listen to what he actually has to say and if you still think the same then I think its safe to say you are a lost cause. TR is an absolute twat for exposing those followers of The religion of peace that were grooming and raping our kids up and down the country.. Tommy...leave them alone...no one is interested..especially social services and the police...
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 16, 2023 16:19:59 GMT
Tommy Robinson has convictions for violence, fraud and contempt of court as well as spreading racial hatred through his various activities on the far right. Tate promotes the abuse of women. Any self respecting media outlet should cancel them otherwise they are effectively promoting those views. It isn't "they" who cancel them. It is the owners of the media outlets that choose to cancel them on the basis of it infringing their policies or to avoid publishing stuff that is illegal. The OP has absolutely nothing to do with canceling or freedom of speech. Its actually an example of the media doing its job. TR doesn't have convictions for racial hatred he's never been arrested for anything racial so that's a lie. The only conviction that's legit is the one where he chinned a copper before he was even known to the wider public, the rest were just an attempt to silence him. AT isn't a misogynist etc etc. He speaks about protecting women and providing for women but because he also promotes traditional gender roles the radical feminists and the mainstream media attemp to slander his name . Instead of watching shorts on YouTube and reading MSM headlines listen to what he actually has to say and if you still think the same then I think its safe to say you are a lost cause. Robinson hasn't been convicted for spreading racial hatred - I can understand how you might think I said that but what I was trying to say was that he has spread racial hatred through his activity in far right groups such the the EDL. When it comes to persuading me to defend racists and misogynists on the spurious grounds of defending free speech you are right I am a lost cause. You're just lost in the company of some very sad men.
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Post by tigermoth on Sept 16, 2023 16:24:33 GMT
Brand came out as a spiritual healer who wanted to help people, then signed an exclusive contract to paywall his podcast. He then hit on the fact that conspiracy nuts would earn him $$$ on YouTube so he went into overdrive with clickbait bullshit. All he cares about is $$$ and his own ego. Wouldn't be surprised if the accusations are true. For critical thinkers, the Andrew Tate fanboys etc. are quick to dismiss serious accusations without seeing the evidence. The video brand released plays people like Tiger moth like a fiddle. It inner me being played like a fiddle mate. I'm a Tate fan but I couldn't care less about Brand tbh but based on the history of accusing people of making some noise regarding MSM I wouldn't be surprised if these accusations were a load of bollocks as well. It's a bit like the boy who cried wolf.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 16, 2023 16:26:19 GMT
Robinson and Tate are criminals though. Why shouldn’t people be able to criticise them? If you are for free speech, why are you trying to cancel those who criticise a person charged with rape and people trafficking? If found guilty, Tate is the type of person running the small boats across the channel. I don’t know what Brand has done so cannot comment. Free speech works both ways. It means people can critique others, but defamation and libel laws exist to protect against lies (although they are not strong enough because they allow rags such as the Daily Mail and Daily Express to print lies on a daily basis). Neither are criminals mate. Tommy (real name Steven Laxley Lennon - Just thought I'd get that in there incase you didn't know 😂) was charged with mortgage fraud based on his cousin declaring that he was on a better salary than he was and due to Tommy borrowing him the deposit they came after Tommy. Same with Tate, he's not been convicted of anything but that won't stop them trying. The reason for the 'investigations' and charges are nothing more than an attempt to shut them down, cripple them financially , slander their name and stop them having a voice because they know their voice resonates with millions of young men all over the world. I'd bet my house on it that Tommy and Tate are the complete opposite to what you believe in but that shouldn't mean they shouldn’t have a voice. Certain Muslim 'hate' preachers are also banned and cancelled, they are the opposite to what I believe in but I think they should have a right to speak. You are either pro free speech or you aren't it's really that simple. I'd draw the line on 2 instances, anyone that tells others to commit violence and anyone of a pedos mind set for obvious reasons. Anything else is fair game weather I agree with them or not. I aren't scared or intimidated by opposing views because I'm more than confident in my own. Robinson absolutely is a criminal... Robinson's criminal record also includes convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession, and public order offences. He had previously served at least three separate custodial sentences: in 2005 for assault, in 2012 for using false travel documents, and in 2014 for mortgage fraud.
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Post by tigermoth on Sept 16, 2023 16:26:56 GMT
TR doesn't have convictions for racial hatred he's never been arrested for anything racial so that's a lie. The only conviction that's legit is the one where he chinned a copper before he was even known to the wider public, the rest were just an attempt to silence him. AT isn't a misogynist etc etc. He speaks about protecting women and providing for women but because he also promotes traditional gender roles the radical feminists and the mainstream media attemp to slander his name . Instead of watching shorts on YouTube and reading MSM headlines listen to what he actually has to say and if you still think the same then I think its safe to say you are a lost cause. Robinson hasn't been convicted for spreading racial hatred - I can understand how you might think I said that but what I was trying to say was that he has spread racial hatred through his activity in far right groups such the the EDL. When it comes to persuading me to defend racists and misogynists on the spurious grounds of defending free speech you are right I am a lost cause. You're just lost in the company of some very sad men. He hasn't spread any racial hatred mate. Apart from burn a swastika and physically fight racists that tried to attach themselves to the EDL he hasn't been involved in race at all. You are lost in the company of sheep and believe anything and everything you read in the MSM. Failure to think for yourself must be a terrible way to go about life.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 16, 2023 16:30:39 GMT
Have another go on whether, third time's a charm. 😳 Neither are racist, except the fella who was a member of the BNP and leader of the EDL (both well known anti-racism institutions of course). And of course, if only we left these poor innocents alone to continue to spout their vile, often deeply dark rhetoric filled with misinformation then democracy would be all the safer for it. Go easy when you progress from Velcro to laces. Wever you agree with him or not mate, do you think he shouldn't be allowed to speak ? No because he's a fucking racist piece of shit. Defending him defines you.
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 16, 2023 16:31:16 GMT
"Russell Brand signed my sister's friend's tits when they were 13/14. She suddenly whipped them out and asked - I was chaperoning them both and didn't have time before he did it to intervene with... could you actually not do that, please." I don’t think Brand’s does himself any favours by always broadcasting he’s a sex addict and done 1000 women. That makes half his past conquests think “There’s a few quid in this!!!”
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Post by tigermoth on Sept 16, 2023 16:35:42 GMT
Wever you agree with him or not mate, do you think he shouldn't be allowed to speak ? No because he's a fucking racist piece of shit. Defending him defines you. I'm proud that you think that though mate, I wear it as a badge of honour when it comes from you. You either agree with freedom of speech or you don't, you obviously don't and that tells me everything I need to know about you.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2023 16:36:06 GMT
Brand has already disclosed that they are after him. Surprise, Surprise...trying to kill off someone who challenges MSM and the establishment. Sounds like they are sending out a warning....challenge us and we will take you down. We live in a very sick society. Awe, c'mon man. Channel 4 is not Establishment and Brand is no more closer to the truth than any of us. He's a rose water believer. (or those heavy rumours are true). Isn't it the Sunday Times who is paying, sorry, behind, this story?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 16, 2023 16:36:42 GMT
No because he's a fucking racist piece of shit. Defending him defines you. I'm proud that you think that though mate, I wear it as a badge of honour when it comes from you. You either agree with freedom of speech or you don't, you obviously don't and that tells me everything I need to know about you. Classic crappy
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Sept 16, 2023 16:47:27 GMT
Didn't like Brand when he was at the height of his "fame"
What Ross and Brand did to tlAndrew Sachsvi think was just plain cruel.
Blokes a tit.
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Post by wannabee on Sept 16, 2023 16:58:22 GMT
Tommy Robinson has convictions for violence, fraud and contempt of court as well as spreading racial hatred through his various activities on the far right. Tate promotes the abuse of women. Any self respecting media outlet should cancel them otherwise they are effectively promoting those views. It isn't "they" who cancel them. It is the owners of the media outlets that choose to cancel them on the basis of it infringing their policies or to avoid publishing stuff that is illegal. The OP has absolutely nothing to do with canceling or freedom of speech. Its actually an example of the media doing its job. TR doesn't have convictions for racial hatred he's never been arrested for anything racial so that's a lie. The only conviction that's legit is the one where he chinned a copper before he was even known to the wider public, the rest were just an attempt to silence him. AT isn't a misogynist etc etc. He speaks about protecting women and providing for women but because he also promotes traditional gender roles the radical feminists and the mainstream media attemp to slander his name . Instead of watching shorts on YouTube and reading MSM headlines listen to what he actually has to say and if you still think the same then I think its safe to say you are a lost cause. Tommy Robinson has more Alter Egos than Grant Schapps You have every right to defend Tommy Robinson and his views and indeed hold them yourself but Gaslighting about his Multiple Convictions is tedious He wasn't convicted and Gaoled for "chinning a copper" but was sent to Gaol for kicking an off duty Policeman in the head who was trying to break up an altercation between Robinson and his then Girlfriend - ABH 15 Months It's hard to keep up with the number of other Convictions Robinson has had but include 2.Contempt of Court (9 Months) 3. Assault (3 Months) 4..Public Order Offence (12-month community rehabilitation order, 150 hours of unpaid work and given a three-year football banning order) 5 Using a False Passport (10 Months) 6.Mortgage Fraud (18 Months) 7. Stalking (5 Year Banning Order) So in total he has 7 Criminal Convictions and sentences of almost 5 years plus other Community Service and Banning Orders. Nice Chap.
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Post by eccythump on Sept 16, 2023 16:59:09 GMT
Wever you agree with him or not mate, do you think he shouldn't be allowed to speak ? No because he's a fucking racist piece of shit. Defending him defines you. what's your view on muslim gangs grooming and raping kids
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Post by eccythump on Sept 16, 2023 17:02:18 GMT
Wever you agree with him or not mate, do you think he shouldn't be allowed to speak ? No because he's a fucking racist piece of shit. Defending him defines you. Read the question again tramp juice. "Do you think he shouldn't be allowed to speak" Your reply...no. Therefore you think he should be allowed to speak. And to think you were a teacher...
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Post by tigermoth on Sept 16, 2023 17:04:41 GMT
No because he's a fucking racist piece of shit. Defending him defines you. what's your view on muslim gangs grooming and raping kids Don't expect a sensible reply mate.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 16, 2023 17:11:30 GMT
No because he's a fucking racist piece of shit. Defending him defines you. Read the question again tramp juice. "Do you think he shouldn't be allowed to speak" Your reply...no. Therefore you think he should be allowed to speak. And to think you were a teacher... How do you know my background mate? You're a newbie aren't you?
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