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Sept 2, 2023 18:04:27 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 2, 2023 18:04:27 GMT
Not the reason we lost BUT he was garbage from start to finish Technically mate he was the reason we lost. He gave them a penalty that wasn't which kick started their second half. I agree we didn't ever look like winning but by the same token we didn't look like losing either. Duane Holmes bought it mate and they banged their knee’s together watching it again.I’d have been shouting for it at the other end but I share your frustration
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Sept 2, 2023 18:06:21 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Sept 2, 2023 18:06:21 GMT
Fine but you can't stamp your authority on the game and then be some limp dick prick who looks like he prefers the company of little boys for the next 95 minutes. Nobody else deliberately kicked another player. I agree he was appalling and from where I sat it didn't look like a penalty. If you are saying Pearson deliberately kicked him, then it's a straight red. It was a fucking trip.
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Sept 2, 2023 18:07:29 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Sept 2, 2023 18:07:29 GMT
Wesley was clearly yanked to the ground as well 1 second before that. I hope both sides of the cunts pillow is warm tonight Woah, Fuckinghell mate, I know he was poor but there's no need for that. Tbf, I'm on board. I'd quite happily see him sleeping with one eye open.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 2, 2023 18:10:37 GMT
Technically mate he was the reason we lost. He gave them a penalty that wasn't which kick started their second half. I agree we didn't ever look like winning but by the same token we didn't look like losing either. Duane Holmes bought it mate and they banged their knee’s together watching it again.I’d have been shouting for it at the other end but I share your frustration I've only seen a shit replay on a phone mate but it looked to me like there was no or minimal contact then Holmes launched himself into a triple somersault with pike and the clueless twat bought it big time. The second goal was just shit defending and good finishing but that penalty clearly set them on their way.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 2, 2023 18:12:53 GMT
Brilliant. Best Preston player on the pitch. No idea what they paid for him, but we need one. What the f--- was this clown up to!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 2, 2023 18:16:24 GMT
Duane Holmes bought it mate and they banged their knee’s together watching it again.I’d have been shouting for it at the other end but I share your frustration I've only seen a shit replay on a phone mate but it looked to me like there was no or minimal contact then Holmes launched himself into a triple somersault with pike and the clueless twat bought it big time. The second goal was just shit defending and good finishing but that penalty clearly set them on their way. Yes I’ve just watched it slowed down and their knees touch and he does a full pike with a forward somersault like you say😡
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 2, 2023 18:16:31 GMT
Nobody else deliberately kicked another player. I agree he was appalling and from where I sat it didn't look like a penalty. If you are saying Pearson deliberately kicked him, then it's a straight red. It was a fucking trip. No I can assure you Pearson deliberately kicked him. Only the fact that it was the first minute saved him from red in my opinion. The red mist had descended for some reason, perhaps he had been winding him up but he definitely intended to hurt.
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Post by swampmongrel on Sept 2, 2023 18:20:33 GMT
If you are saying Pearson deliberately kicked him, then it's a straight red. It was a fucking trip. No I can assure you Pearson deliberately kicked him. Only the fact that it was the first minute saved him from red in my opinion. The red mist had descended for some reason, perhaps he had been winding him up but he definitely intended to hurt. In the stream it looked like a standard ‘professional’ foul, to me.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 2, 2023 18:22:16 GMT
Brilliant. Best Preston player on the pitch. No idea what they paid for him, but we need one. He was rubbish but the Pearson yellow card was one decision he got right, stupid challenge. Defo the correct decision, was an attempt to take the player not the ball & was a yellow card at any other point in the match so no issues with it being the 1st minute. What I do have issue with is the ref awarded us a free kick a few minutes later without brandishing a yellow which from my view looked an equal type offence albeit I was on the opposite side of the pitch but I'm sure it could and should have been a yellow aswell to show some early continuity. After that incident admittedly he seemed to give the majority of 50/50 decisions Prestons way but no issues with Pearsons early booking.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Sept 2, 2023 18:23:24 GMT
I know i'm biased but i think he made contact with Burger and dived. Burger had dangled a foot, but withdrew it without contact and he collided with burgher then dived. Looking back at the penalty decision, burger does make contact with him
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Post by sealion100 on Sept 2, 2023 18:28:34 GMT
No Burger removed is leg their guy touches burger’s leg and dives …VAR would rule it out
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 2, 2023 18:29:15 GMT
If you are saying Pearson deliberately kicked him, then it's a straight red. It was a fucking trip. No I can assure you Pearson deliberately kicked him. Only the fact that it was the first minute saved him from red in my opinion. The red mist had descended for some reason, perhaps he had been winding him up but he definitely intended to hurt. Nah that's rubbish mate. It was a standard professional foul trip. He'd got past him and he legged him up. I'm not sure how you do that without kicking him. It was a deserved yellow but never a red ever. It was the only decision the useless tosser got right all day.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 2, 2023 18:33:07 GMT
He was rubbish but the Pearson yellow card was one decision he got right, stupid challenge. Defo the correct decision, was an attempt to take the player not the ball & was a yellow card at any other point in the match so no issues with it being the 1st minute. What I do have issue with is the the ref awarded us a free kick a few minutes later without brandishing a yellow which from my view looked an equal type offence albeit I was on the opposite side of the pitch but to, could and should have been a yellow aswell to show some early continuity. After that incident admittedly he seemed to give the majority of 50/50 decisions Prestons way but no issues with Pearsons early booking. Exactly this. Wesley rolled Lindsay I think and got away from him and had a run at goal and he pulled him back and fouled him. Free kick no yellow. The Pearson one was 20 yards in our half nowhere near goal yellow card, the Wes one was 20 yards in their half with a run on goal, no yellow, both about 5 minutes apart.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 2, 2023 18:34:33 GMT
Seeing the pen live I was amazed he gave it. It looked like a dive and I thought there was more of a chance of him getting a yellow for simulation than a pen. How wrong I was.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 2, 2023 18:36:47 GMT
..but handballs in the other box was OK! It's so sad when the results of games is just a result of bad refereeing!
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Post by westlandstokie on Sept 2, 2023 18:37:06 GMT
The two examples people are on about on here, pearsons yellow which was a yellow and the pen was a pen, you make contact and its a pen, silly from burger to even hang his leg out. I wasn’t at the match today as I was driving home from holiday but I’ve seen the penalty clip and it’s defo a penalty…no need for our player to stick out his leg…he is inviting the PNE player to dive.
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 2, 2023 18:37:23 GMT
No way as bad as that twat at Millwall last week and not the reason we lost but it seems a regular thing for us.
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Sept 2, 2023 18:39:07 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Sept 2, 2023 18:39:07 GMT
Seeing the pen live I was amazed he gave it. It looked like a dive and I thought there was more of a chance of him getting a yellow for simulation than a pen. How wrong I was. I saw the incident kind of parallel to where I was sat & there was a definite pause from the ref who was in a direct line of view of the incident & I did wonder which way he was going to go with it. A second or so later he blew up and awarded them the kick, Holmes clearly bought the pen with his theatricals despite contact being made and the ref should have known better. Although my initial thought process was the majority of Stokes fans would have been clambering for a pen if that incident had been reversed in the opposite penalty area I'm quite sure.. As it is the ref rejected our claims of what appeared to me to be a handball in the 2nd half, at that point I just knew we weren't going to get the rub of the green today..
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 2, 2023 19:12:46 GMT
No I can assure you Pearson deliberately kicked him. Only the fact that it was the first minute saved him from red in my opinion. The red mist had descended for some reason, perhaps he had been winding him up but he definitely intended to hurt. Nah that's rubbish mate. It was a standard professional foul trip. He'd got past him and he legged him up. I'm not sure how you do that without kicking him. It was a deserved yellow but never a red ever. It was the only decision the useless tosser got right all day. Different opinions perhaps seen from different angles but there was no need even for a professional foul. Pearson had time to step in front of him and block his run but decided to take deliberate aim at his ankles. It almost looked like my husband used to call 'laying a marker on him' early in the match so he'd know what to expect if he got past him. Don't get away with that these days though. Pearson hasn't been playing well this season and I think today we should have just left Burger deep and played Johnson instead of Pearson. We didn't have anyone floating about behind Wesley who was winning a lot but had no one to lay off to because Campbell and Leris were so wide and who knows where Laurent was.
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Post by neddy on Sept 2, 2023 19:15:05 GMT
Ref was awful the Pearson booking set the tone and then you get all the inconsistency! Shocker!
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 2, 2023 19:19:14 GMT
The thing is every single time he’s been the ref for one of our games or I’ve seen him on tv he is exactly the same, absolutely dreadful. How can he continually put in awful performances but nothing ever be done about it?
His arrogance when making decisions doesn’t help either.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 2, 2023 19:20:43 GMT
Nah that's rubbish mate. It was a standard professional foul trip. He'd got past him and he legged him up. I'm not sure how you do that without kicking him. It was a deserved yellow but never a red ever. It was the only decision the useless tosser got right all day. Different opinions perhaps seen from different angles but there was no need even for a professional foul. Pearson had time to step in front of him and block his run but decided to take deliberate aim at his ankles. It almost looked like my husband used to call 'laying a marker on him' early in the match so he'd know what to expect if he got past him. Don't get away with that these days though. Pearson hasn't been playing well this season and I think today we should have just left Burger deep and played Johnson instead of Pearson. We didn't have anyone floating about behind Wesley who was winning a lot but had no one to lay off to because Campbell and Leris were so wide and who knows where Laurent was. I can't argue with any of that mate it was just the 'red card' statement I was taking issue with.
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Post by Veritas on Sept 2, 2023 19:29:25 GMT
He was rubbish but the Pearson yellow card was one decision he got right, stupid challenge. Defo the correct decision, was an attempt to take the player not the ball & was a yellow card at any other point in the match so no issues with it being the 1st minute. What I do have issue with is the ref awarded us a free kick a few minutes later without brandishing a yellow which from my view looked an equal type offence albeit I was on the opposite side of the pitch but I'm sure it could and should have been a yellow aswell to show some early continuity. After that incident admittedly he seemed to give the majority of 50/50 decisions Prestons way but no issues with Pearsons early booking. You are spot on the pull back equally merited a yellow.
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Sept 2, 2023 19:38:26 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Sept 2, 2023 19:38:26 GMT
If you are saying Pearson deliberately kicked him, then it's a straight red. It was a fucking trip. No I can assure you Pearson deliberately kicked him. Only the fact that it was the first minute saved him from red in my opinion. The red mist had descended for some reason, perhaps he had been winding him up but he definitely intended to hurt. It was a trip
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 2, 2023 19:38:54 GMT
Nah that's rubbish mate. It was a standard professional foul trip. He'd got past him and he legged him up. I'm not sure how you do that without kicking him. It was a deserved yellow but never a red ever. It was the only decision the useless tosser got right all day. Different opinions perhaps seen from different angles but there was no need even for a professional foul. Pearson had time to step in front of him and block his run but decided to take deliberate aim at his ankles. It almost looked like my husband used to call 'laying a marker on him' early in the match so he'd know what to expect if he got past him. Don't get away with that these days though. Pearson hasn't been playing well this season and I think today we should have just left Burger deep and played Johnson instead of Pearson. We didn't have anyone floating about behind Wesley who was winning a lot but had no one to lay off to because Campbell and Leris were so wide and who knows where Laurent was. I'm sorry you're talking rubbish. Laying a marker on him? It was a standard professional foul. Booking correct decision. Funny how one of the Preston players did exactly the same with no action taken.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 2, 2023 19:40:00 GMT
No I can assure you Pearson deliberately kicked him. Only the fact that it was the first minute saved him from red in my opinion. The red mist had descended for some reason, perhaps he had been winding him up but he definitely intended to hurt. It was a trip Where were you looking at it from? I was directly above the incident and from where I was sat it was a kick
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Post by sealion100 on Sept 2, 2023 19:53:57 GMT
For me the best was when 2 of our lads were down injured and fans were booing ( for the ref to alt play) one of their players COMPLETELY took out Pearson … ref gave a free kick , but instead of booking the Preston player, ran over to the injured Stoke players … totally bottled what should have been a booking at least!!!
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Post by idle on Sept 2, 2023 19:55:12 GMT
It’s the inconstistancy that’s the problem. He let them waste time without any punishment. At one point Woodman held the ball for 20 seconds. How the fuck is that not an indirect FK and a yellow card?
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Sept 2, 2023 19:58:29 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 2, 2023 19:58:29 GMT
It’s the inconstistancy that’s the problem. He let them waste time without any punishment. At one point Woodman held the ball for 20 seconds. How the fuck is that not an indirect FK and a yellow card? I honestly believe keepers could hold it for 45 seconds and the refs wouldn’t give an indirect free kick, they haven’t got the bottle to do it.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 2, 2023 20:45:24 GMT
I've watched the penalty over and over again and it was a clear case of Burger leaving his leg in deliberately and the Preston player made a meal of the opportunity. I've seen loads of Stoke players do the same thing as their player did and get the decision. Steino was brilliant at it. Burger should have known better.
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