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Post by baconburger on Oct 1, 2023 17:59:47 GMT
I’m not sure what standard you’re judging them by. Rose is an adequate championship back up CB and Taylor was a bit short of that. Anyone would think the division is packed with Vidic like CB’s. Reality is barring a select few they all leave quite a bit to be desired, that’s the championship. That’s why I say Wilmot is a good championship CB not because I think he’s going to go on to play internationally and take the prem by storm. The standards some fans try to hold these players to are ridiculous. There really aren’t that many top players in the championship in any position. You said it yourself. Rose is an adequate ‘back up’ defender yet he’s been first choice more weeks than not for us. The minimum standard id expect is that a centre half can head the ball, and he can’t. That’s a selection question I honestly don’t know what he’s supposed to be better at than McNally.
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Post by lordb on Oct 1, 2023 18:02:07 GMT
You said it yourself. Rose is an adequate ‘back up’ defender yet he’s been first choice more weeks than not for us. The minimum standard id expect is that a centre half can head the ball, and he can’t. That’s a selection question I honestly don’t know what he’s supposed to be better at than McNally. He's a bit more comfortable on the ball and can find a pass better But he's not Baresi, he's not even Peter Handyside McNally is a bit less comfortable on the ball but wins headers, makes tackles, does actual defending
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Post by idle on Oct 1, 2023 19:11:23 GMT
There are still a few names on free we should be looking at given our CB situation: Almamy Toure (from Eintracht Frankfurt) Mustafi (Levante) Zouhair Feddal (Alanyaspor) Sokratis Papastathopoulos (just to se us try to pronounce the name)
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 1, 2023 19:30:00 GMT
I'm still suprised we let Tymon go when we did, especially as left back has been a problem area since he left. Must have just been a case that Neil didn't fancy him, but he'd have surely been a better option than playing Johnson as a makeshift left back. Tymon was always pretty versatile aswell & I'm sure would have been useful to hold onto until January at least. Probably a case of take the money when it's on offer and with Gooch in to cover it gives us extra funds for January. He was never a left back was he
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 1, 2023 19:46:12 GMT
That’s a selection question I honestly don’t know what he’s supposed to be better at than McNally. He's a bit more comfortable on the ball and can find a pass better But he's not Baresi, he's not even Peter Handyside McNally is a bit less comfortable on the ball but wins headers, makes tackles, does actual defending The difference is there's actually a good player somewhere in McNally and he's highly rated whereas Rose is just a bit crap. We have to persevere with Wilmot and Mcnally in the absence of any more signings.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 21:16:00 GMT
I think the ship may have sailed re free agents.
How long before any of those on the list are ready to play?
Even if they've been training elsewhere they will be nowhere near ready to play a game. Realistically it'll be mid November before they're ready to feature. With January then fast approaching we may be best just muddling through and preying for no more injuries or suspensions.
We really shouldn't have left ourselves in this position.
There was repeated talk in the summer of getting value for money. I get the feeling we've missed a few deals because we've put valuations on players and refused to go above those figures.
I understand why but in hindsight if there is still money in the pot we've shot ourselves in the foot.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 1, 2023 21:20:36 GMT
I think the ship may have sailed re free agents. How long before any of those on the list are ready to play? Even if they've been training elsewhere they will be nowhere near ready to play a game. Realistically it'll be mid November before they're ready to feature. With January then fast approaching we may be best just muddling through and preying for no more injuries or suspensions. We really shouldn't have left ourselves in this position. There was repeated talk in the summer of getting value for money. I get the feeling we've missed a few deals because we've put valuations on players and refused to go above those figures. I understand why but in hindsight if there is still money in the pot we've shot ourselves in the foot. Seriously though. Who plays centre back if one of McNally or Wilmot gets injured now?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 1, 2023 21:21:58 GMT
I think the ship may have sailed re free agents. How long before any of those on the list are ready to play? Even if they've been training elsewhere they will be nowhere near ready to play a game. Realistically it'll be mid November before they're ready to feature. With January then fast approaching we may be best just muddling through and preying for no more injuries or suspensions. We really shouldn't have left ourselves in this position. There was repeated talk in the summer of getting value for money. I get the feeling we've missed a few deals because we've put valuations on players and refused to go above those figures. I understand why but in hindsight if there is still money in the pot we've shot ourselves in the foot. Seriously though. Who plays centre back if one of McNally or Wilmot gets injured now? Burger.
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Post by Championship Potter on Oct 1, 2023 21:31:35 GMT
I think the ship may have sailed re free agents. How long before any of those on the list are ready to play? Even if they've been training elsewhere they will be nowhere near ready to play a game. Realistically it'll be mid November before they're ready to feature. With January then fast approaching we may be best just muddling through and preying for no more injuries or suspensions. We really shouldn't have left ourselves in this position. There was repeated talk in the summer of getting value for money. I get the feeling we've missed a few deals because we've put valuations on players and refused to go above those figures. I understand why but in hindsight if there is still money in the pot we've shot ourselves in the foot. Don’t think centre backs need to be crazily fit to step in, assuming they’ve been keeping fit over the pre season. Definitely requires a lot less running than midfielders / full backs. I’d be happy if we signed one of the experienced free agent CBs - they’d probably not be starting for a while anyway unless Wilmot or McNally pick up an injury.
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Post by lordb on Oct 1, 2023 21:35:32 GMT
I think the ship may have sailed re free agents. How long before any of those on the list are ready to play? Even if they've been training elsewhere they will be nowhere near ready to play a game. Realistically it'll be mid November before they're ready to feature. With January then fast approaching we may be best just muddling through and preying for no more injuries or suspensions. We really shouldn't have left ourselves in this position. There was repeated talk in the summer of getting value for money. I get the feeling we've missed a few deals because we've put valuations on players and refused to go above those figures. I understand why but in hindsight if there is still money in the pot we've shot ourselves in the foot. Seriously though. Who plays centre back if one of McNally or Wilmot gets injured now? Presume Burger or Laurent?
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 1, 2023 21:37:15 GMT
Both those last 2 options are quite scary😳
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 21:38:35 GMT
I think the ship may have sailed re free agents. How long before any of those on the list are ready to play? Even if they've been training elsewhere they will be nowhere near ready to play a game. Realistically it'll be mid November before they're ready to feature. With January then fast approaching we may be best just muddling through and preying for no more injuries or suspensions. We really shouldn't have left ourselves in this position. There was repeated talk in the summer of getting value for money. I get the feeling we've missed a few deals because we've put valuations on players and refused to go above those figures. I understand why but in hindsight if there is still money in the pot we've shot ourselves in the foot. Seriously though. Who plays centre back if one of McNally or Wilmot gets injured now? I honestly don't know but I still feel we've left it too late.
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Post by lordb on Oct 1, 2023 21:48:32 GMT
Both those last 2 options are quite scary😳 If it's Laurent at least he wouldn't be doing nothing in the midfield
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on Oct 1, 2023 22:32:10 GMT
There are still a few names on free we should be looking at given our CB situation: Almamy Toure (from Eintracht Frankfurt) Mustafi (Levante) Zouhair Feddal (Alanyaspor) Sokratis Papastathopoulos (just to se us try to pronounce the name) I can mate, lived in Cyprus 28yrs, before coming back home.
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 2, 2023 11:43:02 GMT
There are still a few names on free we should be looking at given our CB situation: Almamy Toure (from Eintracht Frankfurt) Mustafi (Levante) Zouhair Feddal (Alanyaspor) Sokratis Papastathopoulos (just to se us try to pronounce the name) I'd go for the Greek guy. We might get away with putting him on the Team Sheet as "Socrates".
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Post by stokesaint1 on Oct 2, 2023 11:48:26 GMT
I noticed on one of the football news websites this morning that they've resurrected the Cieran Clarke to Stoke story today. Edit: just checked and it was Football league world.
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 2, 2023 12:29:33 GMT
I noticed on one of the football news websites this morning that they've resurrected the Cieran Clarke to Stoke story today. Edit: just checked and it was Football league world. This is a persistent rumour, although the indication has been that talks have not been that positive or productive. The players age (33), injury record and state of fitness seem to be against him. But he is an experienced quality left sided defender, and as we stand at present, beggars can't be choosers, and he may represent the best of a number of poor options. Maybe a short term or pay as you play arrangemennt, might be workable.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 2, 2023 16:23:21 GMT
There are still a few names on free we should be looking at given our CB situation: Almamy Toure (from Eintracht Frankfurt) Mustafi (Levante) Zouhair Feddal (Alanyaspor) Sokratis Papastathopoulos (just to se us try to pronounce the name) I'd go for the Greek guy. We might get away with putting him on the Team Sheet as "Socrates". He went about barefooted, long haired and unwashed......one for the Vale I'd suggest!
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 2, 2023 18:17:44 GMT
Good point. But I would prefer an implied association with the Brazilian International defender!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 4, 2023 15:38:05 GMT
Hackett how will you cope🤣🤣
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 4, 2023 15:56:13 GMT
Seriously though. Who plays centre back if one of McNally or Wilmot gets injured now? Presume Burger or Laurent? Well, this has certainly become a more pressing question now hasn't it! Given our abysmal defensive record in the U21s last season, I take it there is no-one ready to step up from the Academy. If neither Rose or Wilmot is available for Leicester, I can't see further than Burger in central defence. At least for once, we might actually look balanced there with a left-footed CB.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 5, 2023 15:39:20 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 5, 2023 17:23:50 GMT
Jack Simpson, left footed centre back still without a club isn't he? Be a decent alternative to Clark mayeb?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 5, 2023 17:26:38 GMT
Jack Simpson, left footed centre back still without a club isn't he? Be a decent alternative to Clark mayeb? Looks like he's got a few problems....
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 5, 2023 17:34:06 GMT
Jack Simpson, left footed centre back still without a club isn't he? Be a decent alternative to Clark mayeb? Looks like he's got a few problems.... Oops.
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Post by Ron on Oct 5, 2023 22:44:01 GMT
plenty of decent footballers sat on their arses… just have a nibble at some of them n see how it goes!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 8, 2023 9:49:04 GMT
Surely with the news re Wilmot we have to get someone in at CB. Now’s the time to get them in with a 2 week break.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2023 9:51:59 GMT
Ayala is the best one by a mile and would actually become the best centre back we have pretty easily even if everyone was fit.
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Oct 8, 2023 9:58:55 GMT
Ayala is the best one by a mile and would actually become the best centre back we have pretty easily even if everyone was fit. Don’t get why we haven’t moved on him already better than what we have for sure
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2023 10:48:49 GMT
Surely with the news re Wilmot we have to get someone in at CB. Now’s the time to get them in with a 2 week break. What is the news re Wilmot? I've not seen anything.
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