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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 9:22:40 GMT
Some pretty poor crowds there including our own. The Mark Chamberlain, George Berry debut wasn't it? Remember Berry stooping far post header from a corner. Arsenal never did quite master that one
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 28, 2023 10:02:33 GMT
Man utd aside, crowds were generally pretty poor in the 80s
Seem to recall the all conqering Liverpool teams regularly getting crowds in the low 30k’s
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 10:04:45 GMT
Man utd aside, crowds were generally pretty poor in the 80s Seem to recall the all conqering Liverpool teams regularly getting crowds in the low 30k’s True, crowds of 12-15 k were common in the top flight
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2023 10:11:05 GMT
Man utd aside, crowds were generally pretty poor in the 80s Seem to recall the all conqering Liverpool teams regularly getting crowds in the low 30k’s True, crowds of 12-15 k were common in the top flight Nonsense …..the boothen was always heaving mass of bodies Well that’s what I read on here
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 10:12:46 GMT
True, crowds of 12-15 k were common in the top flight Nonsense …..the boothen was always heaving mass of bodies Well that’s what I read on here When football was football and imagine today's players on pitches like those. Players never dived then either Think have covered all the clichés there
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2023 10:13:36 GMT
True, crowds of 12-15 k were common in the top flight Nonsense …..the boothen was always heaving mass of bodies Well that’s what I read on here No that heaving mass was me😉
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2023 10:16:57 GMT
Nonsense …..the boothen was always heaving mass of bodies Well that’s what I read on here No that heaving mass was me😉 Peasant Boothen stand for me
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2023 10:18:23 GMT
No that heaving mass was me😉 Peasant Boothen stand for me Posh git. Do you still take prawn sandwiches in the West stand?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 10:22:32 GMT
No that heaving mass was me😉 Peasant Boothen stand for me And me. I was and still am baffled as to why so many had boiled sweets with them. What purpose did they serve? Another horrendous wind blowing into the stand, don't worry, we have boiled sweets in a tin. My Dad was a bit cooler, we had chocolate limes
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2023 10:22:35 GMT
Peasant Boothen stand for me Posh git. Do you still take prawn sandwiches in the West stand? West stand upper ….get it right
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2023 10:24:30 GMT
Posh git. Do you still take prawn sandwiches in the West stand? West stand upper ….get it right Soz Tarquin.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 10:24:41 GMT
Posh git. Do you still take prawn sandwiches in the West stand? West stand upper ….get it right Me too 😁 We shouldn't be mixing with these folk
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2023 10:28:32 GMT
West stand upper ….get it right Me too 😁 We shouldn't be mixing with these folk Are you pair Peter and John Coates by any chance?
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 28, 2023 10:31:04 GMT
That’s a really late start to a season. 28th August?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 10:35:55 GMT
Me too 😁 We shouldn't be mixing with these folk Are you pair Peter and John Coates by any chance? Those paupers?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 28, 2023 10:37:24 GMT
Followed by a night in 'Castle ending up in Sammi Belle's (Maxims?) and big daft Chapman was in there amongst others!
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Post by Scouse on Aug 28, 2023 10:51:58 GMT
Unemployment in some places was beginning to bite hard , especially up here , but FV was also at or approaching its peak .. hugely impacting on attendances .. as FV bit many family orientated supporters and indeed many fans in general turned their back on the game , meaning grounds were even more dangerous to visit resulting in a downward spiral effect on gates
Grim times for those that stuck with the game and their clubs , especially if you went away regularly rather than just the one or two decent turnouts .. fans in general were hated and despised by just about everyone and everything admitting to being a football fan wasn’t always a wise move career wise
Even the shit had many sub 40k gates , including some low 30s ..though not unless you speak to their genuine lot
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 28, 2023 10:55:49 GMT
To be fair with cash on the turnstiles and owners that would not declare an awful lot I think you can add on 20% to those gates
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Aug 28, 2023 10:56:11 GMT
That’s a really late start to a season. 28th August? Was about normal start then, no international breaks.
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Post by lordb on Aug 28, 2023 10:56:41 GMT
That’s a really late start to a season. 28th August? From memory last weekend of August was the norm
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Post by hamsta2 on Aug 28, 2023 10:57:33 GMT
I was there. Block C in Boothen. Jelly babies and tea ( infused with Bells) from a flask.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 28, 2023 11:13:33 GMT
Unemployment in some places was beginning to bite hard , especially up here , but FV was also at or approaching its peak .. hugely impacting on attendances .. as FV bit many family orientated supporters and indeed many fans in general turned their back on the game , meaning grounds were even more dangerous to visit resulting in a downward spiral effect on gates Grim times for those that stuck with the game and their clubs , especially if you went away regularly rather than just the one or two decent turnouts .. fans in general were hated and despised by just about everyone and everything admitting to being a football fan wasn’t always a wise move career wise Even the shit had many sub 40k gates , including some low 30s ..though not unless you speak to their genuine lot But oddly I always felt much more part of a football ‘community’ (for want of a better word) in those days compared with the characterless , sanitised, TV dominated commodity it now is. Nostalgia isn’t, as they say, what it used to be but I loved everything about football in those days - now I just care about SCFC, the rest of it is for other people.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 28, 2023 11:15:31 GMT
Nice to see we were still beating those gooner cunts 😊😊
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 11:19:05 GMT
To be fair with cash on the turnstiles and owners that would not declare an awful lot I think you can add on 20% to those gates To be fair the Vic would be more spaces than crowd for many games. Football in the 80s a was spiralling downwards and so many clubs in trouble. Some criticise Sky but imagine what might have happened
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 28, 2023 11:31:52 GMT
That’s a really late start to a season. 28th August? From memory last weekend of August was the norm Yeah looking back over that era it seems like a late August start and a bank holiday game two days later.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Aug 28, 2023 12:47:24 GMT
To be fair with cash on the turnstiles and owners that would not declare an awful lot I think you can add on 20% to those gates To be fair the Vic would be more spaces than crowd for many games. Football in the 80s a was spiralling downwards and so many clubs in trouble. Some criticise Sky but imagine what might have happened It's interesting to think how things would have been different without Sky and the creation of the Premier League. I think things would have improved gradually from the 80s nadir but a lot more slowly and crowds throughout the leagues would be lower than they are now. I think it would be a much more even competition with less of this huge sports washing foreign investment. But at the same time the First Division would be a lower standard, lesser league and we'd probably be behind other European leagues like Spain, Italy and maybe even Germany. I think we'd be something like France's Ligue 1 (excluding PSG) in terms of European standing and performance. Who knows though? Pay TV buying the rights was inevitable as technology progressed and TV moved from 3 or 4 analogue channels to firstly multi channel digital TV and then online streaming. Maybe Sky would have got a hold of the First Division rights anyway and a similar progression would have happened regardless?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 12:54:28 GMT
To be fair the Vic would be more spaces than crowd for many games. Football in the 80s a was spiralling downwards and so many clubs in trouble. Some criticise Sky but imagine what might have happened It's interesting to think how things would have been different without Sky and the creation of the Premier League. I think things would have improved gradually from the 80s nadir but a lot more slowly and crowds throughout the leagues would be lower than they are now. I think it would be a much more even competition with less of this huge sports washing foreign investment. But at the same time the First Division would be a lower standard, lesser league and we'd probably be behind other European leagues like Spain, Italy and maybe even Germany. I think we'd be something like France's Ligue 1 (excluding PSG) in terms of European standing and performance. Who knows though? Pay TV buying the rights was inevitable as technology progressed and TV moved from 3 or 4 analogue channels to firstly multi channel digital TV and then online streaming. Maybe Sky would have got a hold of the First Division rights anyway and a similar progression would have happened regardless? You think clubs would have survived on those gates, no TV money etc! You seem to forget that in those days the league was still dominated by one or two teams and crowds were falling annually. I think it's blatantly obvious where football was going. Were talks re making divisions 3 and 4 part time just so clubs could survive
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Post by Veritas on Aug 28, 2023 13:20:04 GMT
From memory last weekend of August was the norm Yeah looking back over that era it seems like a late August start and a bank holiday game two days later. Yes and Cup Final first Saturday in May followed by the dire Home Internationals and then a proper three month break.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 28, 2023 14:02:17 GMT
I remember really struggling to afford to go to matches around that time.
Football was also hugely unpopular and unfashionable largely due to hooliganism.
Thatcher eh!....bloody dark times.
It was still mostly a working class sport and at that time working and non-working folk were getting battered.
In 1982 Unemployment was over 10% the highest it had been for 50 years. 1 in 8 adults out of work. Inflation 10%. Desperate stuff.
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Post by lordb on Aug 28, 2023 14:10:36 GMT
Yeah looking back over that era it seems like a late August start and a bank holiday game two days later. Yes and Cup Final first Saturday in May followed by the dire Home Internationals and then a proper three month break. Yeah Home internationals were rubbish
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