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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 19, 2023 18:09:25 GMT
7
Brave team
2 points lost because again we were nearly caught out in the opening seconds of the second half and would have changed the game...again at home
1 more point away because he's Alex Neil
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 19, 2023 18:10:52 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 19, 2023 18:21:59 GMT
7.5
The starting formation was spot on but taking Rose off and changing formation gave the initiative to Watford and could easily have backfired. Good win though.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 18:24:26 GMT
7.5 The starting formation was spot on but taking Rose off and changing formation gave the initiative to Watford and could easily have backfired. Good win though. Had no choice. Rose had a knock
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 19, 2023 18:37:49 GMT
7.5 The starting formation was spot on but taking Rose off and changing formation gave the initiative to Watford and could easily have backfired. Good win though. Injured,groin issue
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 19, 2023 18:40:09 GMT
7. We looked like strangers in the first half. Defence looked very solid. Still working out a preferred forward line Midfield lacking creativity 3 points against a supposed promotion contender
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 19, 2023 18:52:34 GMT
Those who posted shite on team news what's their views on this Mine is exactly the same. 5 at the back, second home game of the season after a mass clear out and signings galore is nonsense and not needed. Delighted with the 3pts, but back 4 please.
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Post by march4 on Aug 19, 2023 19:00:32 GMT
As I have been saying for a while, AN is an excellent leader. We are lucky to have him.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 19:00:46 GMT
Those who posted shite on team news what's their views on this Mine is exactly the same. 5 at the back, second home game of the season after a mass clear out and signings galore is nonsense and not needed. Delighted with the 3pts, but back 4 please. So what would have done if we had played a back 4 and lost? In this league you have to switch it up against certain teams. AN said himself him switching it up caught Watford a bit cold. You can't just play 1 formation against every team. We finally have the players to be able to switch when needed. It's a very good sign
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Post by walrus on Aug 19, 2023 19:16:22 GMT
I’m delighted we won but I can’t give him more than a 6.
I don’t think the switch to a wingback system was the right thing to do this early in a season given that the 4-3-3 system has been working well at home and that all the pre-season planning was done around playing that way.
The result doesn’t change that, I think a draw would have probably been a fair result on the overall balance of play.
It felt like we were setting up trying to sneak a 1-0 win, and just because that was successful it doesn’t mean I like that approach at home.
I won’t mind too much if we go with the wingbacks again at Millwall but I really hope we soon revert back to playing 4-3-3, especially at home.
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Post by thepottypotter on Aug 19, 2023 19:18:17 GMT
I’m delighted we won but I can’t give him more than a 6. I don’t think the switch to a wingback system was the right thing to do this early in a season given that the 4-3-3 system has been working well at home and that all the pre-season planning was done around playing that way. The result doesn’t change that, I think a draw would have probably been a fair result on the overall balance of play. I won’t mind too much if we go with the wingbacks again at Millwall but I really hope we soon revert back to playing 4-3-3, especially at home. We need a right back that can defend for 4 3 3 to work. Let’s see if he signs one!
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Post by walrus on Aug 19, 2023 19:23:06 GMT
I’m delighted we won but I can’t give him more than a 6. I don’t think the switch to a wingback system was the right thing to do this early in a season given that the 4-3-3 system has been working well at home and that all the pre-season planning was done around playing that way. The result doesn’t change that, I think a draw would have probably been a fair result on the overall balance of play. I won’t mind too much if we go with the wingbacks again at Millwall but I really hope we soon revert back to playing 4-3-3, especially at home. We need a right back that can defend for 4 3 3 to work. Let’s see if he signs one! I think Hoever struggles more defensively playing as a wing back than a traditional right back because his starting position is higher up the pitch and it invites balls in behind him which he struggled to deal with.
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Post by baystokie on Aug 19, 2023 19:33:26 GMT
6 for the negative set up, we won of course but I felt we should have took the game to them Always easy to theorise when it's not your job on the line. We could have 'taken the game to them' but if your idea doesn't work, you can just shrug your shoulders or blame the players - AN hasn't got that luxury.
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 19, 2023 19:50:11 GMT
8 from me. But for a fantastic goal from Vidigal and a brilliant save from Travers, it would have been a battling but dour 0-0 draw. I thought his game management throughout was very good.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 19, 2023 19:55:56 GMT
Contrary to most on this thread I thought it was an enjoyable keenly fought match between two teams who were giving everything. There may not have been the goals of two weeks ago but I preferred today's match because the evenly matched teams made it far more exciting and compelling
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 19, 2023 20:04:22 GMT
Mine is exactly the same. 5 at the back, second home game of the season after a mass clear out and signings galore is nonsense and not needed. Delighted with the 3pts, but back 4 please. So what would have done if we had played a back 4 and lost? In this league you have to switch it up against certain teams. AN said himself him switching it up caught Watford a bit cold. You can't just play 1 formation against every team. We finally have the players to be able to switch when needed. It's a very good sign We could have played 4 at the back and won 5-nil. I've seen enough of 3/5 at the back over the past however many years to know that one swallow a summer does not make. There's no need for such a negative set up at home and it will invariably bite us on the backside more that it proves to be fruitful. I said it pre-match and this is the hill I'm prepared to die on.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 19, 2023 20:09:47 GMT
Those who posted shite on team news what's their views on this Good win, but I really hope this isn’t now the managers default tactic everytime we have a tricky looking home game.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 19, 2023 20:15:13 GMT
8, got it spot on really, the formation worked well, I do think Laurent may need looking at though.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 19, 2023 20:19:23 GMT
Those who posted shite on team news what's their views on this Mine is exactly the same. 5 at the back, second home game of the season after a mass clear out and signings galore is nonsense and not needed. Delighted with the 3pts, but back 4 please. But we won so surely he got it right, we need to be flexible because there are going to be times when plan A won't be the way to go like today.
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Post by fca47 on Aug 19, 2023 20:24:53 GMT
8 - didn't like the lineup, but it worked
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 19, 2023 20:24:53 GMT
8
We looked a decent side at times. Still rusty and getting familiar with each other but a threat when we attacked.
Benching Pearson was brave/risky but the result says it wasn’t a bad call.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 19, 2023 20:27:13 GMT
Mine is exactly the same. 5 at the back, second home game of the season after a mass clear out and signings galore is nonsense and not needed. Delighted with the 3pts, but back 4 please. But we won so surely he got it right, we need to be flexible because there are going to be times when plan A won't be the way to go like today. Plan A is for us to play our best team with the formation that suits us most. Which includes our raft of new signings, none of which were purchased with 352 in mind. Plan B/C should not superceed Plan A because Alex is shitting it against Watford. It's a honking formation to play at home. Delighted with the 3 points but sets a poor precedent for what's to come when we face any of the top 8 at HQ.
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Post by greystokie on Aug 19, 2023 20:28:46 GMT
9. Sensible formation when playing against a decent side while we are, largely, a bunch of strangers who are still figuring out how to work together. Once the team has gelled I think we'll see 433 as the formation of choice in games like this.
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 19, 2023 20:28:46 GMT
7. We won at home, rather comfortably, to a team that is expected to do well this season. A fairly boring game but a great result.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 19, 2023 20:33:17 GMT
But we won so surely he got it right, we need to be flexible because there are going to be times when plan A won't be the way to go like today. Plan A is for us to play our best team with the formation that suits us most. Which includes our raft of new signings, none of which were purchased with 352 in mind. Plan B/C should not superceed Plan A because Alex is shitting it against Watford. It's a honking formation to play at home. Delighted with the 3 points but sets a poor precedent for what's to come when we face any of the top 8 at HQ. Plan A is to win the game end of
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 20:37:11 GMT
But we won so surely he got it right, we need to be flexible because there are going to be times when plan A won't be the way to go like today. Plan A is for us to play our best team with the formation that suits us most. Which includes our raft of new signings, none of which were purchased with 352 in mind. Plan B/C should not superceed Plan A because Alex is shitting it against Watford. It's a honking formation to play at home. Delighted with the 3 points but sets a poor precedent for what's to come when we face any of the top 8 at HQ. Plan A is get 3 points. Don't care how you play to get them. How you get the points should never ever matter
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 19, 2023 20:38:53 GMT
Plan A is for us to play our best team with the formation that suits us most. Which includes our raft of new signings, none of which were purchased with 352 in mind. Plan B/C should not superceed Plan A because Alex is shitting it against Watford. It's a honking formation to play at home. Delighted with the 3 points but sets a poor precedent for what's to come when we face any of the top 8 at HQ. Plan A is to win the game end of If we want to get funky, Plan A is to achieve automatic promotion. Again, we've all witnessed our insistence on a back 3/5 at home over the past 3-4 years. Happy for anyone to argue that our home form over that period of time would lead to this being our best option to achieve the objective of Plan A.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 19, 2023 20:46:57 GMT
6 for the negative set up, we won of course but I felt we should have took the game to them Always easy to theorise when it's not your job on the line. We could have 'taken the game to them' but if your idea doesn't work, you can just shrug your shoulders or blame the players - AN hasn't got that luxury. only my opinion mate
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 19, 2023 20:49:42 GMT
Plan A is to win the game end of If we want to get funky, Plan A is to achieve automatic promotion. Again, we've all witnessed our insistence on a back 3/5 at home over the past 3-4 years. Happy for anyone to argue that our home form over that period of time would lead to this being our best option to achieve the objective of Plan A. As I said earlier horses for courses and lm convinced we’ll see it more often than you think against big strong teams.I actually think it suits Hoever and Enda played it regularly as well.No harm at all for me in changing the formation to suit
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 19, 2023 21:50:32 GMT
Those who posted shite on team news what's their views on this Good win, but I really hope this isn’t now the managers default tactic everytime we have a tricky looking home game. I think he played it because he's realised Hoever can't defend and we don't have a good enough right back who can be trusted to defend against the better teams.
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