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Post by spitthedog on Jul 28, 2023 13:27:08 GMT
Be prepared for longer games (potentially) if this is put into practice. About time, I say! Although the game should move quicker with the 'more time the ball is in play' proposal. linkThe English Football League is to introduce a more "accurate" way to calculate added-on time during matches this season. Match officials are being told to add the exact time taken for certain events - like goals and substitutions - rather than the previous "nominal" amount. A multi-ball system will also be used to help keep stoppages to a minimum when the ball goes out of play. The EFL's plans also include changes over how injured players are treated. Football's law makers - the International Football Association Board (Ifab) - announced its wish to "create fairer conditions for both teams in terms of the amount of time available in a match" at the start of the year and those guidelines form the basis for the EFL's initiative. "In line with the most recent Ifab guidance, the EFL and PGMOL (Professional Game Match Official Limited) are committed to ensure a more accurate calculation of additional time alongside an improvement in the amount of time the ball is in-play from the start of the new season," the EFL said in a statement.
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Post by stokiesteve on Jul 28, 2023 13:30:22 GMT
Longer skids when we are 1-0 at 90mins then
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Post by SCFC92 on Jul 28, 2023 13:32:30 GMT
Good.
"Game management" can piss right off.
Think we will see some really big additional time figures and then it will calm down, much like in the world cup.
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Post by AlliG on Jul 28, 2023 13:37:45 GMT
Bugger! That's going to cause a few "issues" amongst us "more mature" supporters.
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Post by skip on Jul 28, 2023 13:38:04 GMT
Expecting a thread on here next season regarding leaving early with the thick end of a quarter of an hour to go, and getting off the car park.
"If I want leave before I have a clue whether we will win or lose, that right is enshrined in as a paying customer." etc.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 28, 2023 13:40:46 GMT
Good. "Game management" can piss right off. Think we will see some really big additional time figures and then it will calm down, much like in the world cup. Agreed it was mental how much it reduced as the World Cup went on. But I did see that it was due to be implemented after its success I just didn’t know if it would be this season
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 28, 2023 13:44:17 GMT
As a supporter / viewer / customer I am far more interested in getting rid of boring and frustrating down time / stoppages than I am in ‘fairness of time available’.
At Blackpool last season it was taking a minute or more for the home side to take their free kicks once they were in the lead.
If we ever introduce exact timings / stopping the clock it’s going to normalise these lengthy stoppages and make it worse.
The authorities need to be bring in rules that speed up and shorten games, not lengthen them.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jul 28, 2023 13:48:24 GMT
As a supporter / viewer / customer I am far more interested in getting rid of boring and frustrating down time / stoppages than I am in ‘fairness of time available’. At Blackpool last season it was taking a minute or more for the home side to take their free kicks once they were in the lead. If we ever introduce exact timings / stopping the clock it’s going to normalise these lengthy stoppages and make it worse. The authorities need to be bring in rules that speed up and shorten games, not lengthen them. Multi-Ball and penalising teams that waste time through cautions and time added on will do this. There will likely be games at the start of the season with masses of time added on that the opposition score in, or yellow cards etc thus rendering the entertainment sapping "Game Management" as useless. This will then make sure that people are as prompt as possible when restarting after stoppages and in turn speed up the game. It's a 90 minute match, it should be somewhere close to that, thats not unreasonable.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2023 13:50:07 GMT
Does anyone actually want this?
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 28, 2023 13:53:04 GMT
Just pause the clock. How hard is that to do?
6 second rule for goalkeepers: enforce it.
Make one for throw ins as well.
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Post by pavel on Jul 28, 2023 13:54:57 GMT
Does anyone actually want this? Depends how good the game is, how many goals we've scored and how much it pisses off the opposition. Seriously though I think it will settle down and probably improve the game.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Jul 28, 2023 13:55:16 GMT
Hear this shit every season from the officials in this country, it'll be exactly the same.
How many times have we heard pulling shirts will be cracked down on, diving will be punished, players who swear at officials will be sent off etc. then after two games we're back to normal.
Shawcross being punished for shirt pulling then it being scrapped as soon as John Terry did it still irks me.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 28, 2023 13:55:34 GMT
Does anyone actually want this? Yes it cuts down time wasting as it doesn’t waste any time then. Therefore the game should flow a little bit quicker
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2023 14:11:21 GMT
Does anyone actually want this? Depends how good the game is, how many goals we've scored and how much it pisses off the opposition. Seriously though I think it will settle down and probably improve the game. I hope so. But time wasting is far more preferable than 10 minutes added time imo. There's never usually more than a game season where I think it's been an obvious issue.
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Post by walrus on Jul 28, 2023 14:13:01 GMT
This is just treating the symptoms not the cause. Better refereeing could cut down on a lot of the breaks in play without having to resort to massive amounts of stoppage time.
It strikes me that the governing bodies of football over the last few years have had the attitude that technical correctness is more important than fan enjoyment, first with the marginal VAR offside calls and now this. They’re forgetting that it’s for the fans first and foremost and lengthy VAR breaks and endless stoppage time damage the fan experience.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 28, 2023 14:15:34 GMT
Newcastle would be screwed if the Premier League adopted it…
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 28, 2023 14:17:13 GMT
It's been said many times, why not have the Rugby League format where one person is in charge of the time.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 28, 2023 14:17:45 GMT
Does anyone actually want this? Yes, if it changes the behaviours of players. If it does, then the game doesn't need to be longer anyway.
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Post by gogogadget on Jul 28, 2023 14:18:41 GMT
If it’s 10 minutes plus stoppage time, the usual lot near me that go around 75-80, are going to miss upto 25 Minutes
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Post by maine on Jul 28, 2023 14:19:55 GMT
I agree with everything Walrus has said above. I remember when we knew that games finished at 'twenty to five'! Just book players for blatant time wasting.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 28, 2023 14:22:09 GMT
Does anyone actually want this? Yes.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 28, 2023 14:29:53 GMT
Depends how good the game is, how many goals we've scored and how much it pisses off the opposition. Seriously though I think it will settle down and probably improve the game. I hope so. But time wasting is far more preferable than 10 minutes added time imo. There's never usually more than a game season where I think it's been an obvious issue. I can name two without thinking about it last season Blackpool and West Brom at home. There were multiple games towards the back end especially at home where the away teams lack of any desire to get the ball back in to play did my nut in. The reason I noticed it is as I had started to wear a watch again so I was timing it (sad bastard aren’t I)
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 28, 2023 14:33:31 GMT
Does anyone actually want this? Yes, refs have literally been making up added time for too long.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jul 28, 2023 14:35:41 GMT
Well it annoys me that after scoring teams congregate in one corner of the pitch and take an age to get back in place to enable the game to re-start. Goals needs to be celebrated but teams are taking too long especially when it’s not us
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2023 14:39:18 GMT
Does anyone actually want this? Yes, refs have literally been making up added time for too long. But why? 10 mins added time is way too long. Making it up seems better than this.
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Post by DentySCFC on Jul 28, 2023 14:40:16 GMT
If a team is time wasting on a set piece, award it to the opposition, including indirect free kicks in the penalty area when delaying a goal kick.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jul 28, 2023 14:50:03 GMT
This is just treating the symptoms not the cause. Better refereeing could cut down on a lot of the breaks in play without having to resort to massive amounts of stoppage time. It strikes me that the governing bodies of football over the last few years have had the attitude that technical correctness is more important than fan enjoyment, first with the marginal VAR offside calls and now this. They’re forgetting that it’s for the fans first and foremost and lengthy VAR breaks and endless stoppage time damage the fan experience. Exactly. Refs are far too weak when it comes to time wasting and dissent (another annoyance of mine). Give a player a warning the first time they're timewasting, then book them if it happens a second time, then send them off if it happens a third time. Players/teams would soon stop deliberately time wasting which means no need for 10+ minutes of time added on and we, the fans, get to see the ball in play far more which is what we're paying to see.
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Post by outspaced on Jul 28, 2023 16:02:32 GMT
Think there was over 20 minutes extra in England's opening game against Iran in the World Cup. As people have said though, it calmed down as the tournament went on.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 28, 2023 16:05:02 GMT
Eddie Howe is not happy.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 28, 2023 16:14:37 GMT
As a supporter / viewer / customer I am far more interested in getting rid of boring and frustrating down time / stoppages than I am in ‘fairness of time available’. At Blackpool last season it was taking a minute or more for the home side to take their free kicks once they were in the lead. If we ever introduce exact timings / stopping the clock it’s going to normalise these lengthy stoppages and make it worse. The authorities need to be bring in rules that speed up and shorten games, not lengthen them. Multi-Ball and penalising teams that waste time through cautions and time added on will do this. There will likely be games at the start of the season with masses of time added on that the opposition score in, or yellow cards etc thus rendering the entertainment sapping "Game Management" as useless. This will then make sure that people are as prompt as possible when restarting after stoppages and in turn speed up the game. It's a 90 minute match, it should be somewhere close to that, thats not unreasonable. Rather than timewasting, it's often more about frustrating the opposition and preventing them from gaining momentum, or to allow defenders to get into position for a setpiece.
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