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Post by owdestokie2 on May 17, 2023 20:40:41 GMT
Cutting across and reflecting several other posts.
AN you’ll be judged
1. New coaching staff coming in
2. New head of recruitment
3. New squad “ready” for August KO
4. Summer and January (?) transfer windows
1,2 and 3 all in about 11 weeks
Your stamp. Me, fingers crossed, very low on patience.
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Post by lordb on May 17, 2023 20:46:46 GMT
Transfer window ends September
Shit system
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Post by gingerninja on May 17, 2023 21:02:48 GMT
Be interesting what coaches will be coming in, much to do, but quite exciting to see such a large evolution take form.
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Post by march4 on May 17, 2023 21:06:07 GMT
An unreal opportunity for any manager. The stuff of dreams in leadership.
AN has to get it right, otherwise the next 4 years will mirror the last 4.
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Post by questionable on May 19, 2023 6:02:14 GMT
Be interesting what coaches will be coming in, much to do, but quite exciting to see such a large evolution take form. From a reliable source a number of Vales Staff are heading our way |
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Post by knype on May 19, 2023 6:19:25 GMT
Be interesting what coaches will be coming in, much to do, but quite exciting to see such a large evolution take form. From a reliable source a number of Vales Staff are heading our way Please expand? |
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Post by gingerninja on May 19, 2023 6:39:41 GMT
Why would we want any of Vale's coaching staff after the season they just had?.
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Post by theonlooker on May 19, 2023 9:21:05 GMT
Why would we want any of Vale's coaching staff after the season they just had?. They could be brilliant coaches but not turd polishers? |
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Post by somersetstokie on May 19, 2023 11:48:44 GMT
Be interesting what coaches will be coming in, much to do, but quite exciting to see such a large evolution take form. From a reliable source a number of Vales Staff are heading our way I heard that too. They apparently have previous experience of repairing extensive damage and vandalism in the toilet areas. |
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Post by somersetstokie on May 19, 2023 11:53:06 GMT
Be interesting what coaches will be coming in, much to do, but quite exciting to see such a large evolution take form. [/b] That is very worrying. What does it all mean? Are they mob handed? That statement is very much on a par with: "There's a hurricane coming in our direction!" |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 19, 2023 12:26:45 GMT
Transfer window ends September Shit system Agreed. In my opinion, it should be open up until 24 hours before the first game. Or better still, just have a one month period before pre-season starts. |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 19, 2023 12:27:41 GMT
From a reliable source a number of Vales Staff are heading our way [/b] That is very worrying. What does it all mean? Are they mob handed? That statement is very much on a par with: "There's a hurricane coming in our direction!"[/quote] |
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Post by lordb on May 19, 2023 13:59:40 GMT
Transfer window ends September Shit system Agreed. In my opinion, it should be open up until 24 hours before the first game. Or better still, just have a one month period before pre-season starts. Or better still get rid of it altogether |
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Post by richardparker on May 19, 2023 14:19:19 GMT
Why would we want any of Vale's coaching staff after the season they just had?. They could be brilliant coaches but not turd polishers? We'll probably need people who have polishing turds on their CV. |
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Post by dirtclod on May 20, 2023 16:17:49 GMT
From a reliable source a number of Vales Staff are heading our way I heard that too. They apparently have previous experience of repairing extensive damage and vandalism in the toilet areas. Consultants, uniquely unwashed in order to survive shoveling all the feces off our pitch from the end of the season, I presume. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 20, 2023 17:47:11 GMT
Agreed. In my opinion, it should be open up until 24 hours before the first game. Or better still, just have a one month period before pre-season starts. Or better still get rid of it altogether And allow unscrupulous filthy rich owners to tap up and destabilise opposition squads for the entire season? Does nicking a star striker a few weeks before the end of the season really sound like a great way to achieve sporting success? If anything the January window should be scrapped and all transfers done in the summer so standings are based on who got it right before a ball is kicked. |
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Post by boothenender on May 21, 2023 4:16:46 GMT
Why would we want any of Vale's coaching staff after the season they just had?. They could be brilliant coaches but not turd polishers? Not really. Nephew was signed as a Stoke City youngster. He left us for them up the road. He says Viles coaching Staff are much better and take care of the young players development better. At Stoke the young uns used to be left to their own devices, at the Vile there is a structured program for each lad. I will be very interested to see who arrives at Stoke coaching staff. |
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Post by jokker on May 21, 2023 4:35:00 GMT
Transfer window ends September Shit system Agreed. In my opinion, it should be open up until 24 hours before the first game. Or better still, just have a one month period before pre-season starts. That's simply not possible, because the "first game" is at different dates in different countries. England did try try to have their own specific window ending date, but that ended up with English clubs closing down their purchases much earlier than other countries' clubs, so they were at a self-imposed disadvantage compared to their clubs. That went on for a few years, before the FA coiuld see how stupid they were. |
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Post by roylandstoke on May 21, 2023 7:26:43 GMT
Cutting across and reflecting several other posts. AN you’ll be judged 1. New coaching staff coming in 2. New head of recruitment 3. New squad “ready” for August KO 4. Summer and January (?) transfer windows 1,2 and 3 all in about 11 weeks Your stamp. Me, fingers crossed, very low on patience. Low on patience because of the awful results he has delivered so far. No excuses available for him this season. The team needs a very strong start for him to be secure in his job. |
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Post by gingerninja on May 21, 2023 7:38:05 GMT
Hopefully this week we can at least start to address the backroom staff sorted as soon as possible, as it stands it's Alex Neil and Martin Canning, also the head of recruitment really needs to be in place, although I guess in reality most of the preparation work for the window was done months ago. Is the head of recruitment role, similar to a Director of Football?.
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Post by musik on May 21, 2023 8:41:54 GMT
Why would we want any of Vale's coaching staff after the season they just had?. They're cheap? |
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Post by march4 on May 21, 2023 10:12:57 GMT
Or better still get rid of it altogether And allow unscrupulous filthy rich owners to tap up and destabilise opposition squads for the entire season? Does nicking a star striker a few weeks before the end of the season really sound like a great way to achieve sporting success? If anything the January window should be scrapped and all transfers done in the summer so standings are based on who got it right before a ball is kicked. What you describe is exactly as it should be. It was like that for over a century leading to competitive football where any team in the top two divisions could win the cups and half of the top division could win the title. |
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Post by raythesailor on May 21, 2023 10:21:38 GMT
Looking back starting at the Hughes Stokealona days what a load of rubbish has come and gone.
I am now struggling to remember the all the players we have registered and gone on to sink into obscurity, or fail here and go on to perform elsewhere.
A good clean out and rebuild is a herculean task and I wonder if it is possible to achieve a strong competitive squad in one short close season.?
So yes it is a clean sweep and slate which will be interesting and I fear frustrating at times.
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Post by lordb on May 21, 2023 10:36:21 GMT
Or better still get rid of it altogether And allow unscrupulous filthy rich owners to tap up and destabilise opposition squads for the entire season? Does nicking a star striker a few weeks before the end of the season really sound like a great way to achieve sporting success? If anything the January window should be scrapped and all transfers done in the summer so standings are based on who got it right before a ball is kicked. It's definitely worse now than before we had transfer window the old system was no transfers from sometime in March It was miles better |
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Post by march4 on May 21, 2023 11:06:07 GMT
And allow unscrupulous filthy rich owners to tap up and destabilise opposition squads for the entire season? Does nicking a star striker a few weeks before the end of the season really sound like a great way to achieve sporting success? If anything the January window should be scrapped and all transfers done in the summer so standings are based on who got it right before a ball is kicked. It's definitely worse now than before we had transfer window the old system was no transfers from sometime in March It was miles better That’s the one. The late season ban on transfers plus the cup tied rules were introduced to stop weird transfers taking place during the latter stages of the cup. No other rules are needed. The current rules are weakening the competitiveness of English football. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 21, 2023 12:25:09 GMT
It's definitely worse now than before we had transfer window the old system was no transfers from sometime in March It was miles better That’s the one. The late season ban on transfers plus the cup tied rules were introduced to stop weird transfers taking place during the latter stages of the cup. No other rules are needed. The current rules are weakening the competitiveness of English football. How is it weakening competitiveness - unless you mean weakening the ability of money to determine outcomes? Scrapping or extending the transfer window just allows money to talk louder than it does at the moment and the last thing the money men want is genuine competition - they are hell bent on stitching up a cartel. |
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Post by march4 on May 21, 2023 13:51:08 GMT
That’s the one. The late season ban on transfers plus the cup tied rules were introduced to stop weird transfers taking place during the latter stages of the cup. No other rules are needed. The current rules are weakening the competitiveness of English football. How is it weakening competitiveness - unless you mean weakening the ability of money to determine outcomes? Scrapping or extending the transfer window just allows money to talk louder than it does at the moment and the last thing the money men want is genuine competition - they are hell bent on stitching up a cartel. A cartel strengthened immeasurably by an anti-competition transfer window. Smaller clubs have smaller squads. A key player gets injured and a small club is weakened because they are unable to sign a replacement due to the window being closed. Big clubs have a queue of players for each position because they can afford a huge wage bill. Transfer windows are destroying football alongside the even more ridiculous FFP rules. |
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Post by lordb on May 21, 2023 14:06:37 GMT
That’s the one. The late season ban on transfers plus the cup tied rules were introduced to stop weird transfers taking place during the latter stages of the cup. No other rules are needed. The current rules are weakening the competitiveness of English football. How is it weakening competitiveness - unless you mean weakening the ability of money to determine outcomes? Scrapping or extending the transfer window just allows money to talk louder than it does at the moment and the last thing the money men want is genuine competition - they are hell bent on stitching up a cartel. Imho it's the other way around the artificial window combined with the insane difference in income between pl and EFL (&between Champions League and the rest of the pl) sees pl clubs stockpile players they don't use (thus weakening the clubs below) and drives transfer fees up The transfer window is a charter for agents to make money, absolutely no one else benefits |
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Post by nott1 on May 21, 2023 17:35:42 GMT
Cutting across and reflecting several other posts. AN you’ll be judged 1. New coaching staff coming in 2. New head of recruitment 3. New squad “ready” for August KO 4. Summer and January (?) transfer windows 1,2 and 3 all in about 11 weeks Your stamp. Me, fingers crossed, very low on patience. No argument now, it will ALL be his fault if we don't get promotion. |
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Post by march4 on May 21, 2023 18:43:51 GMT
How is it weakening competitiveness - unless you mean weakening the ability of money to determine outcomes? Scrapping or extending the transfer window just allows money to talk louder than it does at the moment and the last thing the money men want is genuine competition - they are hell bent on stitching up a cartel. Imho it's the other way around the artificial window combined with the insane difference in income between pl and EFL (&between Champions League and the rest of the pl) sees pl clubs stockpile players they don't use (thus weakening the clubs below) and drives transfer fees up The transfer window is a charter for agents to make money, absolutely no one else benefits Excellent points, well made. FFP and the transfer windows are indefensible. |
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