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Post by skip on May 17, 2023 8:43:23 GMT
Said the same myself, they are a vile horrible team to watch. They push, pull, trip. They're dirty as fuck and they get away with a lot of it. They do however have a lot of yellow cards this season, think Alfie Doughty is on 11 for instance because of the constant cynical nature of their play. I cannot see Luton ground being premier league ready.. Stoke make some changes to they ground before the first season in the top flight… I for one look forward to the likes of Arsenal away at their ground, in the middle of winter, with the 'floodlights' on and the Sky production manager screaming "make it a bit brighter! Make it all brighter!!"
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Post by cousindupree on May 17, 2023 8:43:43 GMT
Luton's line up last night included just ONE player, Clark who was also in the 2022 line up! That means Luton went through a complete rebuild in one season while still qualifying for the playoffs. It's being suggested on here and indirectly by the SCFC management that it could take 2 or 3 seasons. So why should it? Luton clearly with a sound structure of Dof, good recruitment and talented manager in Rob Edwards did it in one season. Sadly we don't have a Dof, good recruitment or talented manager thats why it will take years Coates stop thinking you know best with your outdated model of running a football club and look at the likes of Luton, Brentford, Brighton etc and learn from them ffs.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 17, 2023 8:50:03 GMT
Luton's line up last night included just ONE player, Clark who was also in the 2022 line up! That means Luton went through a complete rebuild in one season while still qualifying for the playoffs. It's being suggested on here and indirectly by the SCFC management that it could take 2 or 3 seasons. So why should it? Luton clearly with a sound structure of Dof, good recruitment and talented manager in Rob Edwards did it in one season. Sadly we don't have a Dof, good recruitment or talented manager thats why it will take years Coates stop thinking you know best with your outdated model of running a football club and look at the likes of Luton, Brentford, Brighton etc and learn from them ffs. Did Luton start last season needing almost a completely new squad from scratch?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 17, 2023 8:54:37 GMT
If we’d have signed half of those players at Luton this forum would have been in meltdown🙄no well known names but a team created
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Post by theonlooker on May 17, 2023 8:55:21 GMT
If we’d have signed half of those players at Luton this forum would have been in meltdown🙄no well known names but a team created Think we'll be going down similar lines this summer in certain positions and it will be a welcome change.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 17, 2023 8:55:50 GMT
They must have people at the club who know how to run it.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 17, 2023 8:58:16 GMT
They must have people at the club who know how to run it. They have players that will run through brick walls for the club/fans and Mick Harford in the background 😳😂
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 17, 2023 9:04:10 GMT
Am I the only one who thought that was horrible? There was only one team playing football. I can admire Luton's commitment to going into challenges and blocks but the number of times they went straight into the backs of Sunderland players, barged them over, pushed them off the ball and grabbed hold of shirts without any sanctions from the referee just showed the poor standard of refereeing in the Championship. I understand allowing the game to flow but when one team loses possession because of illegal physicality it has to be a free kick. I'm looking forward to Luton being in the Premier because a) we won't have to watch Stoke being bullied by them - I'd much rather watch football teams like Sunderland and Middlesborough. Can you imagine how boring it would be watching two teams playing like Luton do? and b) I want to see if they get the pelters Stoke used to get because they make Pulis's teams look like football purists. And on top of that, how do they get away with no investment in their ground? I'm looking forward to seeing Man Utd and Arsenal fans in that away end next year. Said the same myself, they are a vile horrible team to watch. They push, pull, trip. They're dirty as fuck and they get away with a lot of it. They do however have a lot of yellow cards this season, think Alfie Doughty is on 11 for instance because of the constant cynical nature of their play. Dunna werrit, if they go up, they will be the media darlings.
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Post by cousindupree on May 17, 2023 9:07:52 GMT
Luton's line up last night included just ONE player, Clark who was also in the 2022 line up! That means Luton went through a complete rebuild in one season while still qualifying for the playoffs. It's being suggested on here and indirectly by the SCFC management that it could take 2 or 3 seasons. So why should it? Luton clearly with a sound structure of Dof, good recruitment and talented manager in Rob Edwards did it in one season. Sadly we don't have a Dof, good recruitment or talented manager thats why it will take years Coates stop thinking you know best with your outdated model of running a football club and look at the likes of Luton, Brentford, Brighton etc and learn from them ffs. Did Luton start last season needing almost a completely new squad from scratch? Well if you add the subs bench from both years only Lockyear appears from last season. So thats what 16 different players from last season. That suggests a suad rebuild
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Post by lordb on May 17, 2023 9:16:36 GMT
Said the same myself, they are a vile horrible team to watch. They push, pull, trip. They're dirty as fuck and they get away with a lot of it. They do however have a lot of yellow cards this season, think Alfie Doughty is on 11 for instance because of the constant cynical nature of their play. Dunna werrit, if they go up, they will be the media darlings. Doubt it The media like comfort more than anyone
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 17, 2023 9:17:21 GMT
Did Luton start last season needing almost a completely new squad from scratch? Well if you add the subs bench from both years only Lockyear appears from last season. So thats what 16 different players from last season. That suggests a suad rebuild Lockyer, Bell, Clark, Ruddock and Adebayo had all been at the club last season or prior tbf. Still a fantastic achievement and they made some very astute signings but not sure it's quite the same situation facing us this summer.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 17, 2023 10:41:07 GMT
A club that’s shown on multiple occasions it’s model can handle its manager leaving for apparently better things and maintain its upward momentum. Edwards has done an absolutely terrific job in taking the extra step into the playoffs.
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Post by cousindupree on May 17, 2023 10:42:49 GMT
Well if you add the subs bench from both years only Lockyear appears from last season. So thats what 16 different players from last season. That suggests a suad rebuild Lockyer, Bell, Clark, Ruddock and Adebayo had all been at the club last season or prior tbf. Still a fantastic achievement and they made some very astute signings but not sure it's quite the same situation facing us this summer. Well Luton don't have the financial muscle (albeit constrained by FFP) that we have or a youth academy anywhere near our level. So I don't buy into the 2/3 seasons needed to achieve a competitive squad to challenge for promotion. I guess we will see if our recruitment process under Neil and Martin can get anywhere near the level of quality that the likes of Luton achieve. I don't see many excuses from the management of Scfc holding water. I guess we will continue to disagree.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 17, 2023 10:52:56 GMT
Lockyer, Bell, Clark, Ruddock and Adebayo had all been at the club last season or prior tbf. Still a fantastic achievement and they made some very astute signings but not sure it's quite the same situation facing us this summer. Well Luton don't have the financial muscle (albeit constrained by FFP) that we have or a youth academy anywhere near our level. So I don't buy into the 2/3 seasons needed to achieve a competitive squad to challenge for promotion. I guess we will see if our recruitment process under Neil and Martin can get anywhere near the level of quality that the likes of Luton achieve. I don't see many excuses from the management of Scfc holding water. I guess we will continue to disagree. They don't, I agree, but they've been better run for longer over the past few seasons and built on their own success as well, whereas our model leaves us having to start from scratch with every change of manager and we essentially need pretty much a new squad. We need to see a significant improvement next season but given we need quality and quantity I won't be screaming for heads to roll if we're not in the top six. If we're still stuck in the purgatory of the bottom half and nearer the relegation mix than the play-offs then that definitely wouldn't be acceptable though.
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Post by AlliG on May 17, 2023 12:07:15 GMT
Am I the only one who thought that was horrible? There was only one team playing football. I can admire Luton's commitment to going into challenges and blocks but the number of times they went straight into the backs of Sunderland players, barged them over, pushed them off the ball and grabbed hold of shirts without any sanctions from the referee just showed the poor standard of refereeing in the Championship. I understand allowing the game to flow but when one team loses possession because of illegal physicality it has to be a free kick. I'm looking forward to Luton being in the Premier because a) we won't have to watch Stoke being bullied by them - I'd much rather watch football teams like Sunderland and Middlesborough. Can you imagine how boring it would be watching two teams playing like Luton do? and b) I want to see if they get the pelters Stoke used to get because they make Pulis's teams look like football purists. And on top of that, how do they get away with no investment in their ground? I'm looking forward to seeing Man Utd and Arsenal fans in that away end next year. Said the same myself, they are a vile horrible team to watch. They push, pull, trip. They're dirty as fuck and they get away with a lot of it. They do however have a lot of yellow cards this season, think Alfie Doughty is on 11 for instance because of the constant cynical nature of their play. It will be interesting to see how Luton cope with VAR in the play-off final if they continue to play right on the edge. (With VAR Carlton Morris would have got a straight red last night).
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Post by chad on May 17, 2023 12:51:44 GMT
Surely it's all down to the 'good work' done by Nathan Jones? Erm, just like he did for us and Southampton. To be honest he certainly can take a lot of credit for his work there
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 17, 2023 13:02:45 GMT
Surely it's all down to the 'good work' done by Nathan Jones? Erm, just like he did for us and Southampton. To be honest he certainly can take a lot of credit for his work there Nah, must be some kind of sorcery going on there. Neil needs a new squad of his own before we can expect him to win games. And MON had to eliminate the crap that Jones & Rowett had assembled, and....etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2023 13:57:04 GMT
Bournemouth ( for sure ) and Luton ( maybe) show you don't need a massive ground and loads of money, to get to the prem
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Post by flea79 on May 17, 2023 14:34:39 GMT
It’s a fair old journey for them
I remember being in Dubai watching our fa cup semi final at Wembley and a lad we worked with came bouncing in celebrating too as Luton had just escaped non league and got promotion back too league two
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Post by shakermaker on May 17, 2023 15:02:00 GMT
They must have people at the club who know how to run it. They have players that will run through brick walls for the club/fans and Mick Harford in the background 😳😂 Harford isn't so much in the background, but absolutely central to everything that's been achieved there. He's Mr Luton Town and should be given the freedom of the town should they go up... (not that you'd want to be anywhere in Luton by choice!). We should have a DoF who's a football man and for whom the club and city means everything to them. Shame Lou and Denis Smith are too old.
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Post by chamberlain on May 17, 2023 15:04:19 GMT
Passing around the back for 15 minutes every game or getting the ball up and in the box and finishing 3rd hmmm that's a tough one . Seriously there is a balance to be found between their approach and playing more football, but you name me any fan who would have been more excited by our season than theirs.
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Post by ChesterStokie on May 17, 2023 16:18:08 GMT
Just read that David Pleat is 78.
That surprised me I thought he’d be at least 90 by now!
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Post by palerider on May 17, 2023 16:37:01 GMT
Fuck the hatters ,need to spend their parachute payments on the shit hole of a stadium
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Post by leicspotter on May 17, 2023 17:28:05 GMT
Bournemouth ( for sure ) and Luton ( maybe) show you don't need a massive ground and loads of money, to get to the prem Luton's ground won't be allowed for PL games in its current state. Needs about £10m spent on it if they win at Wembley...or they will be playing their home games somewhere else
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Post by roylandstoke on May 17, 2023 18:11:05 GMT
Well if you add the subs bench from both years only Lockyear appears from last season. So thats what 16 different players from last season. That suggests a suad rebuild Lockyer, Bell, Clark, Ruddock and Adebayo had all been at the club last season or prior tbf. Still a fantastic achievement and they made some very astute signings but not sure it's quite the same situation facing us this summer. Not the same at all. They don’t have a pot to piss in and have non league facilities. There are no excuses for us not to have successful season next year. That means a valid tilt at playoffs.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 6, 2023 16:48:53 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 6, 2023 17:22:34 GMT
Good luck to the lad seems a grounded individual
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 6, 2023 18:50:31 GMT
Makes me laugh that they have to spend £10m on that ramshackle shit hole as well as trying to fund a new stadium. Then they need some players in. That prem money will struggle to cover all that expense.
First job is some varnish on that away end front door. Then a few 100watt pearl bulbs in those shite floodlights.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jun 6, 2023 19:06:25 GMT
Passing around the back for 15 minutes every game or getting the ball up and in the box and finishing 3rd hmmm that's a tough one . Seriously there is a balance to be found between their approach and playing more football, but you name me any fan who would have been more excited by our season than theirs. They are a much better team than us on a much lower budget and if their football is horrible to watch fuck knows what we have been watching for the past 6 seasons
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Post by independent on Jun 6, 2023 20:13:24 GMT
Lockyer, Bell, Clark, Ruddock and Adebayo had all been at the club last season or prior tbf. Still a fantastic achievement and they made some very astute signings but not sure it's quite the same situation facing us this summer. Not the same at all. They don’t have a pot to piss in and have non league facilities. There are no excuses for us not to have successful season next year. That means a valid tilt at playoffs. Don't be too sure, I'm certain some people on here will think of some.
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