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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2023 13:33:35 GMT
From the bits I can decipher I'll give you Celina. Sarkic got a muscle injury that any player can get. Completely unrelated to his injury last season. On the few games he's played he looks like he would be an excellent signing. Axel was a last minute punt when we rightly snapped Leicester's arm off for £15 million. Hoever who you now seem to like, you were calling a 'competition winner' after his first couple of games. Pearson who I don't think you've mentioned in the gibberish (but I've seen many of your posts slagging him off) will make you look very foolish next season if he signs. Except we won't be seeing Pearson again in a Stoke shirt We might? |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 14, 2023 13:35:37 GMT
Except we won't be seeing Pearson again in a Stoke shirt We might? I hope that we do. If we can bring in Pearson, a mobile target man, a decent (also mobile) centre half and a better goalkeeper early in the window, I think that people will get on board and become excited about next season. At present, I’m more interested than excited. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2023 15:18:43 GMT
I hope that we do. If we can bring in Pearson, a mobile target man, a decent (also mobile) centre half and a better goalkeeper early in the window, I think that people will get on board and become excited about next season. At present, I’m more interested than excited. Think it's impossible to be excited at this stage but I'm open minded that we'll sign some good players this window who fit what the manager wants to do. We have to accept some of our top targets may not be available until later in the window, and that's ok. |
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Post by independent on May 14, 2023 17:33:33 GMT
Except we won't be seeing Pearson again in a Stoke shirt I think we'll get him on loan again I think we will,if he wants to come. We should be realistic about how much AN can do this Summer. Every player that he wants and can afford may not be available to him. Even some players who are available may not wish to come to Stoke. I remember Sir Alex trying and failing to sign Benzema, so I think people shouldn't expect too much of our Alex. We are at ground zero and can now begin to rebuild our team. I think the League will be tougher next year, so if we can finish 8th-10th then that will represent real progress. Anything more than that should be considered a bonus. |
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Post by pavel on May 14, 2023 17:53:53 GMT
I think we'll get him on loan again I think we will,if he wants to come. We should be realistic about how much AN can do this Summer. Every player that he wants and can afford may not be available to him. Even some players who are available may not wish to come to Stoke. I remember Sir Alex trying and failing to sign Benzema, so I think people shouldn't expect too much of our Alex. We are at ground zero and can now begin to rebuild our team. I think the League will be tougher next year, so if we can finish 8th-10th then that will represent real progress. Anything more than that should be considered a bonus. 8th or 10th real progress, see the goalposts are changing, they will go missing soon! Correction they’ve already disappeared or metamorphosed into a vague chimera of non tangible aspiration. |
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Post by independent on May 14, 2023 18:19:00 GMT
I think that is realistic. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves, or expecting miracles. I know AN said when he came that we should be looking at a promotion push either the season just gone or next season, but I think he didn't realise the size of the task that he faced.
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Post by ravey123 on May 14, 2023 19:13:16 GMT
I think that is realistic. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves, or expecting miracles. I know AN said when he came that we should be looking at a promotion push either the season just gone or next season, but I think he didn't realise the size of the task that he faced. Tell that to Middlesbrough this season or Nottingham Forest last season. In fact I bet there are loads of teams who have appointed managers much later than we did in a season and in worse positions than we were when Neil took over but have still managed either the play-offs or promotion. |
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Post by lordb on May 14, 2023 19:14:59 GMT
From the bits I can decipher I'll give you Celina. Sarkic got a muscle injury that any player can get. Completely unrelated to his injury last season. On the few games he's played he looks like he would be an excellent signing. Axel was a last minute punt when we rightly snapped Leicester's arm off for £15 million. Hoever who you now seem to like, you were calling a 'competition winner' after his first couple of games. Pearson who I don't think you've mentioned in the gibberish (but I've seen many of your posts slagging him off) will make you look very foolish next season if he signs. Except we won't be seeing Pearson again in a Stoke shirt Why won't we? Where hast his come from? |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 19:35:31 GMT
Except we won't be seeing Pearson again in a Stoke shirt Why won't we? Where hast his come from? A rumour that some journalist with links to Bournemouth said Pearson had no interest in signing permanently I think. |
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Post by jokker on May 14, 2023 19:50:48 GMT
I think that is realistic. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves, or expecting miracles. I know AN said when he came that we should be looking at a promotion push either the season just gone or next season, but I think he didn't realise the size of the task that he faced.[/i] Yeah that has been the name of the game for every manager we've had since we sacked Hughes. They all thought that going to a club that had spent 9 years in the PL was the easy ticket to better things, for themselves primarily. They didn't realise that it would require a huge amount of hard work, more disappointments than joy, teams that would self-destruct, and players who refused to believe that they weren't as good as they thought they were, because they too believed that going to Stoke was the sure address for PL football. The only ticket those managers had in fact bought was the sack. And AN is only now starting coming to that realisation. If someone offered him a job, I'm sure he'd take it. |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 14, 2023 19:51:55 GMT
I hope that we do. If we can bring in Pearson, a mobile target man, a decent (also mobile) centre half and a better goalkeeper early in the window, I think that people will get on board and become excited about next season. At present, I’m more interested than excited. Think it's impossible to be excited at this stage but I'm open minded that we'll sign some good players this window who fit what the manager wants to do. We have to accept some of our top targets may not be available until later in the window, and that's ok. With seven(?) senior players in the squad, we need to accept that we may get relegated if we don’t get enough players in to have a preseason as well. At this rate, we’ll save money on hotels on their preseason getaway at least 😂 |
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Post by jokker on May 14, 2023 19:53:25 GMT
Why won't we? Where hast his come from? A rumour that some journalist with links to Bournemouth said Pearson had no interest in signing permanently I think. He could have a change of heart if B'mouth doesn't plan with him next season...then again he might simply fancy some bench time there. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2023 19:58:01 GMT
Think it's impossible to be excited at this stage but I'm open minded that we'll sign some good players this window who fit what the manager wants to do. We have to accept some of our top targets may not be available until later in the window, and that's ok. With seven(?) senior players in the squad, we need to accept that we may get relegated if we don’t get enough players in to have a preseason as well. At this rate, we’ll save money on hotels on their preseason getaway at least 😂 Whoever we’ll sign will almost certainly have had a pre-season, it just wont necessarily have been with us. I’m not worried at all about being relegated. |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 14, 2023 20:01:21 GMT
With seven(?) senior players in the squad, we need to accept that we may get relegated if we don’t get enough players in to have a preseason as well. At this rate, we’ll save money on hotels on their preseason getaway at least 😂 Whoever we’ll sign will almost certainly have had a pre-season, it just wont necessarily have been with us. I’m not worried at all about being relegated. Preseason is not just about fitness though, it’s about getting ideas into a team’s head. It also gives a manager an idea of whether the team will be able to play the way he wants or whether there is still something missing. If a lot of the players we will be looking at will be free transfers looking for a new club, they won’t have had a preseason either. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 14, 2023 20:05:05 GMT
Whoever we’ll sign will almost certainly have had a pre-season, it just wont necessarily have been with us. I’m not worried at all about being relegated. Preseason is not just about fitness though, it’s about getting ideas into a team’s head. It also gives a manager an idea of whether the team will be able to play the way he wants or whether there is still something missing. If a lot of the players we will be looking at will be free transfers looking for a new club, they won’t have had a preseason either. It is, absolutely, but I also think that can be taught fairly quickly. Pulis would always sign a late flurry of players and it didn’t make a massive difference. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 20:05:08 GMT
A rumour that some journalist with links to Bournemouth said Pearson had no interest in signing permanently I think. He could have a change of heart if B'mouth doesn't plan with him next season...then again he might simply fancy some bench time there. Or it could be complete bullshit, who knows? |
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Post by jokker on May 15, 2023 5:41:41 GMT
He could have a change of heart if B'mouth doesn't plan with him next season...then again he might simply fancy some bench time there. Or it could be complete bullshit, who knows? You do. |
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Post by nottsover60 on May 15, 2023 10:36:18 GMT
Preseason is not just about fitness though, it’s about getting ideas into a team’s head. It also gives a manager an idea of whether the team will be able to play the way he wants or whether there is still something missing. If a lot of the players we will be looking at will be free transfers looking for a new club, they won’t have had a preseason either. It is, absolutely, but I also think that can be taught fairly quickly. Pulis would always sign a late flurry of players and it didn’t make a massive difference. Yes but he never had just 7 players in his squad when he did that. How do you even start preseason with that number of players? Not much you can do with twelve even, apart from the fitness side which I think today isn't important as players are given a fitness programme to follow in the close season so should be coming back physically fit. Even with the four or five u21's who have been involved this season we are very low in defenders and midfielders. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 15, 2023 11:37:25 GMT
Why won't we? Where hast his come from? A rumour that some journalist with links to Bournemouth said Pearson had no interest in signing permanently I think. Won't he be earning more been on loan here, than he would if he signed for us? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 11:42:38 GMT
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Post by jokker on May 15, 2023 11:46:07 GMT
It is, absolutely, but I also think that can be taught fairly quickly. Pulis would always sign a late flurry of players and it didn’t make a massive difference. Yes but he never had just 7 players in his squad when he did that. How do you even start preseason with that number of players? Not much you can do with twelve even, apart from the fitness side which I think today isn't important as players are given a fitness programme to follow in the close season so should be coming back physically fit. Even with the four or five u21's who have been involved this season we are very low in defenders and midfielders. Neal won't be doing that at all. He will temporarily promote academy players, there's enough of them that have reached maturity and can take sensibly part. In a way that will be exploiting those players, because as soon as he has enough numbers, they will be dismissed as seniors and be back in the academy. But either way it will be a useful experience for them. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 15, 2023 11:47:31 GMT
In hindsight, our ability to scout absolute gems from the continent in the early 2000s was seriously impressive. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say pound for pound that scouting system absolute blows our current one away for hits on good players. Even more so in an era preceding big data and analytics. |
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Post by theonlooker on May 15, 2023 11:52:51 GMT
That's because for all of their faults, the Icelanders had a football man on their board/consortium didn't they? Asgeir Sigurvinsson. We have nothing at all like that to call on. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 15, 2023 12:18:10 GMT
It is, absolutely, but I also think that can be taught fairly quickly. Pulis would always sign a late flurry of players and it didn’t make a massive difference. Yes but he never had just 7 players in his squad when he did that. How do you even start preseason with that number of players? Not much you can do with twelve even, apart from the fitness side which I think today isn't important as players are given a fitness programme to follow in the close season so should be coming back physically fit. Even with the four or five u21's who have been involved this season we are very low in defenders and midfielders. Boskamp had what, nine? We were fine. We'll have the numbers to have a decent pre-season once a few come in and we'll add to that from there. |
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Post by thevoid on May 15, 2023 13:16:44 GMT
In hindsight, our ability to scout absolute gems from the continent in the early 2000s was seriously impressive. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say pound for pound that scouting system absolute blows our current one away for hits on good players. Even more so in an era preceding big data and analytics. Hardly surprising given that the current set up thinks that the Channel Islands are overseas |
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Post by lordb on May 15, 2023 15:25:10 GMT
In hindsight, our ability to scout absolute gems from the continent in the early 2000s was seriously impressive. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say pound for pound that scouting system absolute blows our current one away for hits on good players. Even more so in an era preceding big data and analytics. We didn't scout them, they we're recommended by agents |
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