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Post by nott1 on May 3, 2023 8:43:32 GMT
Here's number 2 Thanks for nothing Axel Now fuck off! Gouranga. Some might feel the same about YOU! Gouranga
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Post by teanstoke on May 3, 2023 8:46:51 GMT
It's just like Powell, he plays great gets injured ,back again after 3 weeks drop the guy standing in he gets passed off again upsetting the squad . The money you save you would need more med staff.
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Post by threepoints on May 3, 2023 8:52:08 GMT
He's 25 year old and has been a professional footballer all his working life. Wikipedia tells me that in all that time he had played 90 games, about ten or twelve games a season on average.
I'd sign him on terms that reflect his expected playing time, which would probably be unacceptable to him!
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 3, 2023 8:54:59 GMT
It's not worked out for us or Tuanzebe. Can't see a way forward for either party.
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Post by Roy Cropper on May 3, 2023 9:23:02 GMT
I think I'm probably being over-optimistic with this one - but if Neil and the medical team have a plan, and believe he can play in 25+ games next season we'll have the best defender in the championship by some distance and it will show in the table.
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Post by questionable on May 3, 2023 10:00:41 GMT
I think I'm probably being over-optimistic with this one - but if Neil and the medical team have a plan, and believe he can play in 25+ games next season we'll have the best defender in the championship by some distance and it will show in the table. Treatment table more like
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Post by thevoid on May 3, 2023 13:19:50 GMT
We replaced our best player and best centre half with someone who has played twice in 3 months. Sums the club up. Make do and mend
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Post by thevoid on May 3, 2023 13:20:49 GMT
Who? No doubt we'll sign him permanently in the close season, so he can miss all of next season too. Charity Club
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 16:36:22 GMT
We replaced our best player and best centre half with someone who has played twice in 3 months. Sums the club up. We replaced our best player with £15 million and it's looking very good business. He can't even get in a shit Leicester side. Tuanzebe was a punt that hasn't worked out but no damage done. Whether we can spend the money wisely is another matter.
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Post by UsAndThem on May 3, 2023 20:37:23 GMT
It's just like Powell, he plays great gets injured ,back again after 3 weeks drop the guy standing in he gets passed off again upsetting the squad . The money you save you would need more med staff. Can’t remember the last time Powell had a good game. Tuanzebe on the other hand has looked decent when fit. He’s still only 25 and without doubt has more potential than Powell ever did. He’s definitely worth a gamble on the right contract. As others have mentioned, rumour is he’s agreed to sign and he’s getting right for next season.
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Post by fazza90 on May 3, 2023 21:31:33 GMT
He looks to be a premiership quality defender with injury problems & well worth the risk in my opinion. Ricky Fuller came to us with a similar injury record & he turned out alright. Or best scenario get him on a contract that has injury clauses built in so he's paid less if he's injured.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 4, 2023 1:14:08 GMT
I think I'm probably being over-optimistic with this one - but if Neil and the medical team have a plan, and believe he can play in 25+ games next season we'll have the best defender in the championship by some distance and it will show in the table. He’ll have played 4 of 20-23 games. It’s got to be long odds that he’ll be playing 25+ next season.
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Post by FrankButcher on May 4, 2023 2:50:05 GMT
We’d be daft offering him anything more than a pay as you play contract given his injury record
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 6:06:48 GMT
Consistency is what we need and lack. We don’t need players who flirt in and out of the team no matter how good they are. Constant first team changes have been our shortfall for too long. Regular fit players in a consistent team setup, not 3 at the back one week then 4 or 5 the next week.
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Post by Gods on May 4, 2023 7:02:30 GMT
I don't know what to think here.
Sign him and he'll be injured all season, don't sign him and he'll be brilliant for West Brom.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 4, 2023 7:21:06 GMT
We certainly need to look and hard at him before considering signing him which it looks like we did in the last window I would have thought. That was a panic our next CB pairing don’t need to be.
I could live with a pool of
2 new starting CBs Tuanzebe Fox Taylor
Anything else would be nuts
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Post by J-Roar on May 4, 2023 7:28:07 GMT
Great player but not worth the risk unfortunately.
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Post by scfc75 on May 4, 2023 7:30:01 GMT
The subject line of this thread makes my eye twitch every time it goes to the top of the board.
Yes, I get the irony of my post…
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Post by robwahlmann on May 4, 2023 7:35:15 GMT
We certainly need to look and hard at him before considering signing him which it looks like we did in the last window I would have thought. That was a panic our next CB pairing don’t need to be. I could live with a pool of 2 new starting CBs Tuanzebe Fox Taylor Anything else would be nuts Wilmot will play.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 4, 2023 7:52:16 GMT
We certainly need to look and hard at him before considering signing him which it looks like we did in the last window I would have thought. That was a panic our next CB pairing don’t need to be. I could live with a pool of 2 new starting CBs Tuanzebe Fox Taylor Anything else would be nuts Wilmot will play. Forgot Wilmot. Oops. He should start if fit but might be a case of him easing himself back next season after a bad injury.
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Post by idle on May 4, 2023 9:23:08 GMT
We certainly need to look and hard at him before considering signing him which it looks like we did in the last window I would have thought. That was a panic our next CB pairing don’t need to be. I could live with a pool of 2 new starting CBs Tuanzebe Fox Taylor Anything else would be nuts And Wilmot. Aren't there any young aspiring centrebacks from L1 we could poach? We always aim too high (like Porteous) and end up with crap instead. Why not take a chance on a younger player similar to Wilmot in addition to a first teamer. Then we could start Wilmots+FirstTeamer and have a young backup player for each position.
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Post by bolders on May 4, 2023 9:32:50 GMT
We certainly need to look and hard at him before considering signing him which it looks like we did in the last window I would have thought. That was a panic our next CB pairing don’t need to be. I could live with a pool of 2 new starting CBs Tuanzebe Fox Taylor Anything else would be nuts And Wilmot. Aren't there any young aspiring centrebacks from L1 we could poach? We always aim too high (like Porteous) and end up with crap instead. Why not take a chance on a younger player similar to Wilmot in addition to a first teamer. Then we could start Wilmots+FirstTeamer and have a young backup player for each position. Arnt we looking at Ronnie Edwards from Posh, if they don’t come up?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2023 9:56:17 GMT
Why are so many ok with Wilmot starting regularly?
He's played a massive part in us looking so crap at the back. He showed at Watford what role he should be playing in a side chasing promotion.
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Post by idle on May 4, 2023 10:04:39 GMT
Why are so many ok with Wilmot starting regularly? He's played a massive part in us looking so crap at the back. He showed at Watford what role he should be playing in a side chasing promotion. Because he's the least of our problems. When Tuanzebe played and could cover for him we could see how much more dangerous his forward ventures was. He also has a bit of pace, unlike the rest of our geriatric centrebacks. I agree we could do better than him, but I still think there's other more glaring holes to be filled first.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2023 10:06:24 GMT
Why are so many ok with Wilmot starting regularly? He's played a massive part in us looking so crap at the back. He showed at Watford what role he should be playing in a side chasing promotion. Because he's the least of our problems. When Tuanzebe played and could cover for him we could see how much more dangerous his forward ventures was. He also has a bit of pace, unlike the rest of our geriatric centrebacks. I agree we could do better than him, but I still think there's other more glaring holes to be filled first. He's not, the defence has been poor and he's been a big part of that. We don't have a centre back who should be a regular at this level. 2 new CBs is as key as much as everything else. I still think there's a good argument that Fox has been better at CB than him this season.
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Post by idle on May 4, 2023 10:10:11 GMT
Because he's the least of our problems. When Tuanzebe played and could cover for him we could see how much more dangerous his forward ventures was. He also has a bit of pace, unlike the rest of our geriatric centrebacks. I agree we could do better than him, but I still think there's other more glaring holes to be filled first. He's not, the defence has been poor and he's been a big part of that. We don't have a centre back who should be a regular at this level. 2 new CBs is as key as much as everything else. I still think there's a good argument that Fox has been better at CB than him this season. No argument on the last point. Fox is my POTS. But he's not going to get better. Wilmot might. 1 GK, 1 CB, 1 RB, 1 LB, 1 DM, 1AM, 2 wingers, 1 target man is ahead of the 2nd CB for me. On the other hand we need all of that and more to even have a squad, so maybe we can afford two good CB. I suspect it'll be a freebie though
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2023 10:24:11 GMT
He's not, the defence has been poor and he's been a big part of that. We don't have a centre back who should be a regular at this level. 2 new CBs is as key as much as everything else. I still think there's a good argument that Fox has been better at CB than him this season. No argument on the last point. Fox is my POTS. But he's not going to get better. Wilmot might. 1 GK, 1 CB, 1 RB, 1 LB, 1 DM, 1AM, 2 wingers, 1 target man is ahead of the 2nd CB for me. On the other hand we need all of that and more to even have a squad, so maybe we can afford two good CB. I suspect it'll be a freebie though I think that's pretty damning though re Fox. 2 GK 1 RB 2 CB 1 LB 2 CM 1 AM 2 wingers 1 ST All equally important for me. And yes I want 10 new starters
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Post by idle on May 4, 2023 10:36:20 GMT
No argument on the last point. Fox is my POTS. But he's not going to get better. Wilmot might. 1 GK, 1 CB, 1 RB, 1 LB, 1 DM, 1AM, 2 wingers, 1 target man is ahead of the 2nd CB for me. On the other hand we need all of that and more to even have a squad, so maybe we can afford two good CB. I suspect it'll be a freebie though I think that's pretty damning though re Fox. I think Fox'll play his part as a good rotational option at CB. As will Wilmot. And I've not given up on Taylor yet. One more talented young centreback would also be good. So I'm thinking this is why we only really NEED 1 good CB. Or maybe two if he gets injured. So if we're talking about Tuanzebe we'll definitely need another one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2023 10:43:53 GMT
I think that's pretty damning though re Fox. I think Fox'll play his part as a good rotational option at CB. As will Wilmot. And I've not given up on Taylor yet. One more talented young centreback would also be good. So I'm thinking this is why we only really NEED 1 good CB. Or maybe two if he gets injured. So if we're talking about Tuanzebe we'll definitely need another one. I like Taylor but I don't think he's good enough to be playing regularly at this level yet. All 3 of them are fine for the bench or to be used 15 games a season. And yeah if Tuanzebe is signing you defo need another one and to keep 2 of Taylor/Fox/Wilmot.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 4, 2023 11:15:27 GMT
Are we being cute with Tuanzebe in that why risk him now, get him fit and ready for pre-season? Is his injury a recurrence of his back problems or something new? It's all very cloak and dagger.
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