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Post by independent on Apr 27, 2023 10:42:07 GMT
I think that whatever happens he must get till at least Christmas before any rash decisions are made. I think this obsession with top 6 or bust might be unwise. Perhaps we should see if he can put in the foundations of a good side this Summer. If he manages to do that, then he should be allowed to add players in January and finish the re-build the following Summer. I'd hate to see us splurge what money we can, decide it's a failure, sack the manager and have to start all over again. We have suffered enough already.
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Post by march4 on Apr 27, 2023 10:53:03 GMT
We need to be sensible this summer. We’ve seen the danger of over spending on players with no resale value.
As for the manager, he has operated well in the one transfer window he’s had both with incomings and outgoings. In spite of the three disappointing home reverses, our form since February has been an upturn and it is a sensible projection to see this progress continue next season especially considering the manager’s previous success at Preston and Sunderland.
I firmly believe this is the manager to take us to promotion. I hope it will be next season but there will be no time scales from me so long as we are moving in the right direction. The manager seemed to be suggesting 8 key incomings and then we will need some squad fillers on top. That is one heck of a job to get right.
As a reality check, only 3 managers have got Stoke promoted to the top division since WW2. And all 3 were vilified by large selections of our support for their style of football. It’s results that matter not style.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 27, 2023 17:02:47 GMT
I remember some posting similar comments when we were in the EPL and going into the Championship…….
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Post by teanstoke on Apr 28, 2023 18:26:40 GMT
He has to start with the defence, any team with aspirations of going up ,have to be solid at the back.He should already have a list of players he wants and on the first day he should hit the ground running.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Apr 28, 2023 18:50:12 GMT
I would think Charlie Creswell would be one of the first signings, after Ben Pearson!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 28, 2023 19:32:03 GMT
Get beaten tomorrow and the Lap of thanjs after arsenal will look like the best attended event in world football , I can’t believe he’ll still be here on Sunday let alone august but he will be its all set for years of mid table mediocrity s we become the new Preston
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 29, 2023 5:26:22 GMT
I think this is destined for the shit bin. What worries me is that if a proven manager of Neil's stature fails,he will join a long list of managers of proven ability who have crashed and burnt.The whole structure of the club will have to be questioned.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2023 6:12:14 GMT
I think this is destined for the shit bin. What worries me is that if a proven manager of Neil's stature fails,he will join a long list of managers of proven ability who have crashed and burnt.The whole structure of the club will have to be questioned. I actually disagree , we constantly appointed managers below our economic firepower and then allowed them to recruit using it to its full extent , Rowett , lambert , O’Neil have won nothing before or since , Neil we keep hearing is proven his signature is Preston mid table , the list of people who have a promotion and relegation on their cv at Norwich is long and not one you’d want to recruit from . like it or not sunderland have kicked on without him see hughes v Pulis for me he’s just another Rowett not bad solid to stay in the league but miles off what we need to set the place alight in the way say carrick , corberon etc have done , and hugely disappointing is the way he’s been out coached at home by the likes of Pearson and , Rowett and the lad at Rotherham at home . 11 or could be likely 12 defeats at home gets you the sack at virtually every other club . I do agree the structure seems flawed or more the process appointing martins role clearly right but to allow Neil to influence it such a way seems counter intuitive to the purpose of the role to check and balance . As I’ve said he’s here regardless but while solid I think the next few years are likely to be more Preston than Burnley , Leeds , Fulham or wolves .
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 29, 2023 18:29:32 GMT
he’s got to go now surely , 40 games and still the same old shit , his transfer window wasn’t a success , we simply can’t give him the keys to a war chest or we will be in the same situation as when we sacked MoN
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Post by gawa on Apr 29, 2023 18:41:03 GMT
Get Kieran McKenna in.
44 wins. 22 draws. 12 losses.
Some record.
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 29, 2023 19:14:52 GMT
Still wouldn't lose any sleep if he left tomorrow
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 29, 2023 19:15:41 GMT
Get Kieran McKenna in. 44 wins. 22 draws. 12 losses. Some record. Why would he take a step backwards? 🤷🏻
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Post by pavel on Apr 29, 2023 19:36:18 GMT
He’s had long enough, I thought he had started to build something in that small interlude of sunshine but then he went back into his shell. Another safety first manager that can’t think out of the box, respond to changing situations or put together a team that can compete on any level. Another in a long line of uninspiring, workaday, unadventurous and dour managers the Coates family keep employing.
It’s not his squad but any half decent managers improve a set of players they inherit, that’s a fundamental part of the job. This guy has done the opposite, players have gone backwards, underperformed and allied with tactics, appalling football and beyond negative substitutions I can’t see any reason to keep him past the end of the season.
The reality however is that he will be allowed to spunk millions on another iteration of a safety first, workaday, uninspiring unadventurous team that is built to grind out results but fails to deliver to even that low bar of expectations and we have the same conversations yet again at the end of the season.
He talks about what’s wrong at the club but keeps on doing the same thing week on week and is out thought most weeks by other mediocre managers, he’s part of the problem.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Apr 29, 2023 19:37:34 GMT
We need to be sensible this summer. We’ve seen the danger of over spending on players with no resale value. As for the manager, he has operated well in the one transfer window he’s had both with incomings and outgoings. In spite of the three disappointing home reverses, our form since February has been an upturn and it is a sensible projection to see this progress continue next season especially considering the manager’s previous success at Preston and Sunderland. I firmly believe this is the manager to take us to promotion. I hope it will be next season but there will be no time scales from me so long as we are moving in the right direction. The manager seemed to be suggesting 8 key incomings and then we will need some squad fillers on top. That is one heck of a job to get right. As a reality check, only 3 managers have got Stoke promoted to the top division since WW2. And all 3 were vilified by large selections of our support for their style of football. It’s results that matter not style. Spot on March. It's about results. And based on 39 matches, his results are wank
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