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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 7, 2023 18:40:35 GMT
5 seasons on the trot they’ve won at our place now😳 I was just thinking they must have a cracking record here since relegation, didn't think it would be 5/5 though.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 7, 2023 18:41:50 GMT
5 seasons on the trot they’ve won at our place now😳 I was just thinking they must have a cracking record here since relegation, didn't think it would be 5/5 though. And that little bugger Wiemann didn’t even score
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 7, 2023 18:42:16 GMT
5 seasons on the trot they’ve won at our place now😳 I was just thinking they must have a cracking record here since relegation, didn't think it would be 5/5 though. Yes we haven’t beat them at our place since Mama’s double in that vital game.I’m pretty sure we’ve got a decent record at their place as well over the same time period
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 7, 2023 18:44:00 GMT
I was just thinking they must have a cracking record here since relegation, didn't think it would be 5/5 though. And that little bugger Wiemann didn’t even score Or Diedhou (sp?)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 7, 2023 18:45:31 GMT
And that little bugger Wiemann didn’t even score Or Diedhou (sp?) Looks right to me
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Post by Gods on Apr 7, 2023 18:57:02 GMT
It was never going to be easy playing out these last few dead rubbers.
However hard you try to get motivated there simply is not the frisson required for folks to die for the cause.
We're paying the price for once again having made a complete cluster-fuck of the first 80% of the campaign.
Roll on next season, this one will pass unlamented.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 7, 2023 19:09:40 GMT
We would have been a mere 7 points off the play offs with 6 games left had we won. The dream would have been alive. Typically we turn out that second half performance🙄 Going up would be a disaster this season. The squad, as proved today is far too threadbare even with all the loan players who may, or probably won't be here next year. (Although I admit more likely to join us if we got promoted but players like Smallbone and Hoever won't have a choice).
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Post by march4 on Apr 7, 2023 19:11:56 GMT
Am I the only one who is still stunned by what I witnessed in the 2nd half?
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 7, 2023 19:16:06 GMT
It was never going to be easy playing out these last few dead rubbers. However hard you try to get motivated there simply is not the frisson required for folks to die for the cause. We're paying the price for once again having made a complete cluster-fuck of the first 80% of the campaign. Roll on next season, this one will pass unlamented. Yep, I think the difference today was that we weren't raining on anyone's parade so in that heat players didn't give the extra 10% they've been giving in recent weeks against playoff hopefuls. I've been saying all week, before we get carried away by our chances next season, wait to see what happens when we start from scratch next season and have to play against the Rotherhams and Huddersfields and the pressure returns to win home matches when we see lots of the ball but play against ten man defences with an athletic forward prepared to latch onto a big hoof and score. We didn't match Bristol's athleticism today and deservedly lost. We need to find a way of turning possession into wins.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 7, 2023 19:16:10 GMT
Baker is playing like a man who doesn't want to be here. Needs to be sold if we can find a buyer. Celina is a show pony. Looks like he has something, but there's no end product. Story of his career. I don't get it
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Post by thepottypotter on Apr 7, 2023 19:16:28 GMT
Piss poor negative substitutions, 30 seconds later they score and then as what's happened recently we get done too easily at the back but today they scored, last week Coventry had plenty of chances to get back in the game but failed to score and it's been the same in other games, not complaining too much take the rough with the smooth! I don’t agree that they were negative subs. He brought on the only attacking options we had. Sadly both Celina and Baker are just not good enough. The silver lining is that it is clear for all to see the more replacements that are needed in the summer.
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Post by neddy on Apr 7, 2023 19:17:55 GMT
We just completely switched off collectively which was really odd. We stopped pressing high up the pitch and hence we made the game come more into out half.
I got the Sterling swap as the winger was giving Ki a hard time but yet again the other subs were so off it particularly Baker and Fox.
Hey ho on to Brum….can they make it an aberration? Re Smallbone when he isn’t getting around the pitch as he has been he’s ineffective.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 7, 2023 19:18:05 GMT
It's wrong. Missed an 'i'. The perfectionist in me had to go and check, especially after your vote of confidence... Diedhiou.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 7, 2023 19:19:28 GMT
Piss poor negative substitutions, 30 seconds later they score and then as what's happened recently we get done too easily at the back but today they scored, last week Coventry had plenty of chances to get back in the game but failed to score and it's been the same in other games, not complaining too much take the rough with the smooth! I don’t agree that they were negative subs. He brought on the only attacking options we had and both Celina and Baker are, sadly, not good enough. More replacements needed in the summer. I think both blew their chances today of proving to Neil that they should be getting more playing time. The scene was set for them to show that they are unlucky to be starting on the bench and neither did anything to prove they should be anywhere near the starting eleven.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 7, 2023 19:19:45 GMT
It wasn’t just the second half, it was the second half of the first half as well…….
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 7, 2023 19:20:26 GMT
I don’t agree that they were negative subs. He brought on the only attacking options we had and both Celina and Baker are, sadly, not good enough. More replacements needed in the summer. I think both blew their chances today of proving to Neil that they should be getting more playing time. The scene was set for them to show that they are unlucky to be starting on the bench and neither did anything to prove they should be anywhere near the starting eleven. I wouldn’t entertain signing Celina. Complete show pony…….
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 7, 2023 19:21:53 GMT
It's wrong. Missed an 'i'. The perfectionist in me had to go and check, especially after your vote of confidence... Diedhiou. 🤨🤣
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Post by tqstokie on Apr 7, 2023 19:25:33 GMT
If the players were race horses they would have been dope tested. Makes you wonder who the dopes are.
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 7, 2023 19:29:05 GMT
It’s easy to blame the subs, but whilst none of them (Fox apart, maybe) had a positive impact, they did not make us worse.
Smallbone had his worst half ever, Powell looked exhausted, Laurent was invisible, Pearson couldn’t pass to someone in the same coloured shirt. Neither Brown nor Campbell could get on the ball and both fullbacks stopped winning duels they’d dominated first half. Any player can have a poor game or half game and no team can get a result when so many players havr a poor game at the same time.
A shame, definitely. A blip, hopefully.
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 7, 2023 19:30:36 GMT
I think both blew their chances today of proving to Neil that they should be getting more playing time. The scene was set for them to show that they are unlucky to be starting on the bench and neither did anything to prove they should be anywhere near the starting eleven. I wouldn’t entertain signing Celina. Complete show pony……. Don’t really get why we sent Fosu back and got Celina. Fosu is a better player and would be much more useful in our current system. Can only presume Brentford wanted to send him to a club where he would be a regular starter.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 7, 2023 19:35:35 GMT
First really bad half in six games? Can’t grumble too heavily I guess, although it’s very frustrating to not at least keep the unbeaten run going.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Apr 7, 2023 19:38:19 GMT
I wouldn’t entertain signing Celina. Complete show pony……. Don’t really get why we sent Fosu back and got Celina. Fosu is a better player and would be much more useful in our current system. Can only presume Brentford wanted to send him to a club where he would be a regular starter. Agree Fosu scored today . Don't get me started on Jack Clarke at Sunderland..Just 2 assists and a goal today...
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 7, 2023 19:41:58 GMT
I think they crowded out the midfield, and simply over run it!!! If we want to do well next season playing with this formation, we need to be able to unlock a stifled midfield!!!
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Apr 7, 2023 19:50:24 GMT
We would have been a mere 7 points off the play offs with 6 games left had we won. The dream would have been alive. Typically we turn out that second half performance🙄 Going up would be a disaster this season. The squad, as proved today is far too threadbare even with all the loan players who may, or probably won't be here next year. (Although I admit more likely to join us if we got promoted but players like Smallbone and Hoever won't have a choice). No it wouldn't. It's a similar rubbish statement like saying that it'd be a good idea to go down and rebuild.
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Post by fca47 on Apr 7, 2023 19:58:24 GMT
It was fairly typical of our home form this season, so it wasn't that suprising. Their forwards were much more dangerous than ours. We seem to have had more of the play but they created more outstanding chances.
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Post by pavel on Apr 7, 2023 20:03:08 GMT
The signs were there in the 1st half, miss placed passes, incoherent pressing and some scares before we scored. A bad day at the office for our midfield which lacked energy and composure. The subs were needed for better or worse and we all knew they were needed. We would probably have conceded whoever was on the pitch, the stage had been set and Bristol were in the ascendency. We can’t complain about the result on our 2nd half display.
It was a reality check for the management, players and us supporters, a lot of work still needs to be done to build resilience, flair and composure. We hopefully will be better for it in the long run.
I’m not going to complain about the subs performance as we were on a downward trend when they came on and it was hard to reverse the momentum Bristol were on. Arguably they should have come on much earlier but I can understand why Neil gave his regulars time to up their game in the laters stages.
I thought Pearson was poor today, misplaced passes at crucial moments, sat too deep and didn’t screen the defence as he usually does, the reality is that we have a first eleven that needs every player to be at the top of their game to function as a whole and that didn’t happen today.
The summer will be crucial to build on the shallow foundations we’ve put down in the last few months.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 7, 2023 20:19:59 GMT
Maybe just maybe Pearson changed his tactics by reacting to our high press by playing further up the pitch, playing balls over the top and we didn't have the answer. Gouranga.
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 7, 2023 20:23:28 GMT
Maybe just maybe Pearson changed his tactics and by reacting to our high press by playing further up the pitch sand playing balls over the top and we didn't have the answer. Gouranga. That's exactly what he did do, restricting the space for Powell to move into so his defenders didn't have to split to mark him. Check mate. Will be interesting to see how Neil reacts next season to something like that with a different squad of players with slightly different options.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 20:24:47 GMT
Am I the only one who is still stunned by what I witnessed in the 2nd half? Why are you stunned mate? That 2nd half performance has been the norm more often than not this season. The superb performances of late have been the exception.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 7, 2023 20:25:58 GMT
Maybe just maybe Pearson changed his tactics and by reacting to our high press by playing further up the pitch sand playing balls over the top and we didn't have the answer. Gouranga. That's exactly what he did do, restricting the space for Powell to move into so his defenders didn't have to split to mark him. Check mate. Will be interesting to see how Neil reacts next season to something like that with a different squad of players with slightly different options. Those around me noticed this after a few minutes and were looking for AN to speak to some of the players to make adjustments but it never happened and the players just carried on as though they were going to win regardless. Gouranga.
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