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Post by PotterLog on Apr 2, 2023 16:22:47 GMT
Yes like we did till Lambert was given the job. Not this old chestnut again. Lambert was the last resort because we had been turned down by Flores, Rowett & Martin O’Neill. The damage was already done by Hughes, very poor club management and player indiscipline that almost allowed players to come and go as they pleased. Club morale was rock bottom and fingers can be pointed at squandered games in the second half of that horrid season but appointing Lambert was not the reason we were relegated in my opinion of course. Of course he fookin was, he won one consequential game out of fourteen pretty friendly fixtures. Our PPG got worse. He took us from the fringe of the relegation zone down to four points from safety. He is without question one of the worst managerial appointments our club has ever made, and as we all know that’s a crowded field. “Old chestnut”, give me strength. Ever likely British managers “fall upwards” if this is the kind of charity they receive.
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Post by xchpotter on Apr 2, 2023 16:24:01 GMT
Another team that if relegated could be in serious financial peril If they do, I’m sure all of the people they owed money to last time they re financed won’t shed a tear. They treated those creditors appallingly.
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 2, 2023 16:24:03 GMT
If I was Coates I'd be digging deep and going for Rodgers. Be a great manager to bring in to take us to the next level. Coates is a billionaire for his excellent business sense, decision making and nous......yourself on the other hand
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 2, 2023 16:26:54 GMT
Another team that if relegated could be in serious financial peril If they do, I’m sure all of the people they owed money to last time they re financed won’t shed a tear. They treated those creditors appallingly. hope they paid in full for Harry. I'm sure I read they were 500m in debt, I maybe wrong though but an eye-watering amount
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Post by steewee on Apr 2, 2023 16:27:31 GMT
If I was Coates I'd be digging deep and going for Rodgers. Be a great manager to bring in to take us to the next level. Coates is a billionaire for his excellent business sense, decision making and nous......yourself on the other hand He's premier league pedigree, exciting football and needs a project that isn't an already over performing Leicester. Where could he ever go with that Club? Stoke - he'd have a right project on his hands. Neil ain't a bad manager if we're happy with an end of season push. Might get us 5/6th next year, woopdedoo. Jeff Bezos would p45 Neil and bring Rodgers in and take us back to the big leagues. Coates on the other hand....
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Apr 2, 2023 16:40:59 GMT
Coates is a billionaire for his excellent business sense, decision making and nous......yourself on the other hand He's premier league pedigree, exciting football and needs a project that isn't an already over performing Leicester. Where could he ever go with that Club? Stoke - he'd have a right project on his hands. Neil ain't a bad manager if we're happy with an end of season push. Might get us 5/6th next year, woopdedoo. Jeff Bezos would p45 Neil and bring Rodgers in and take us back to the big leagues. Coates on the other hand.... And that would gamble the future of the club and if Rodgers failed, with how much we'd have had to spend to bring him in and the kind of transfer budget we'd have had to have given him to tempt him to drop to The Championship, we'd almost certainly fail FFP and end up a mess in League One like Derby. I'd rather stick with Neil right now, thanks. There's no way we could get Rodgers without offering him a package that would place the future of the club in jeopardy if it didn't work out.
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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 2, 2023 16:55:10 GMT
If I was Coates I'd be digging deep and going for Rodgers. Be a great manager to bring in to take us to the next level. A little sick came up into my mouth just I finished your post.
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 2, 2023 16:59:59 GMT
It's almost like you can't wait to stick the boot into Harry any chance you get, it's quite sad and a bit weird really. I was accused of liking him too much on here 😂 Just think it’s been a big factor in Rodgers’ sacking. It was a poor signing for way too much money and he’s then played him massively incorrectly. Not as big as playing ward constantly.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 2, 2023 17:00:56 GMT
I was accused of liking him too much on here 😂 Just think it’s been a big factor in Rodgers’ sacking. It was a poor signing for way too much money and he’s then played him massively incorrectly. Not as big as playing ward constantly. Yeah that’s bloody foolish too!!
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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 2, 2023 17:02:18 GMT
Coates is a billionaire for his excellent business sense, decision making and nous......yourself on the other hand He's premier league pedigree, exciting football and needs a project that isn't an already over performing Leicester. Where could he ever go with that Club? Stoke - he'd have a right project on his hands. Neil ain't a bad manager if we're happy with an end of season push. Might get us 5/6th next year, woopdedoo. Jeff Bezos would p45 Neil and bring Rodgers in and take us back to the big leagues. Coates on the other hand.... OK Mrs Rodgers, it’s time for your lie down now.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Apr 2, 2023 17:06:10 GMT
I said on here many times. Thought people’s reckoning we’d get £18 million for Souttar was downright mental. Well we got £18m + a sell on. Brilliant business and for once we’ve had another teams trousers down by their ankles. Leicester are in trouble and I don’t think Harry’s stopped the rot. When your big money signing doesn’t change your downward trajectory, you’re up against it. Rodgers had to get the axe. Being a British football manager must be the only profession* where you can fail upwards. Talk of him getting the Spurs job should be insane, but you just know he stands a chance. The lucky bastards. *outside of politics. Surprise surprise, player doesn't look great playing in a team in poor form. Souttar was one of the best players in the Championship, which made him more than worth the fee.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Apr 2, 2023 17:09:27 GMT
Not this old chestnut again. Lambert was the last resort because we had been turned down by Flores, Rowett & Martin O’Neill. The damage was already done by Hughes, very poor club management and player indiscipline that almost allowed players to come and go as they pleased. Club morale was rock bottom and fingers can be pointed at squandered games in the second half of that horrid season but appointing Lambert was not the reason we were relegated in my opinion of course. Of course he fookin was, he won one consequential game out of fourteen pretty friendly fixtures. Our PPG got worse. He took us from the fringe of the relegation zone down to four points from safety. He is without question one of the worst managerial appointments our club has ever made, and as we all know that’s a crowded field. “Old chestnut”, give me strength. Ever likely British managers “fall upwards” if this is the kind of charity they receive. It is an old chestnut and another myth on here. There was something like 0.03 PPG difference between Hughes and Lambert in that season - so a meaningless difference. Lambert inherited a shocking team and at least shored up the defence, which gave us a fighting chance of staying up. We were going nowhere but down under Hughes. Lambert is far from our worst managerial appointment.
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Post by steewee on Apr 2, 2023 17:10:10 GMT
He's premier league pedigree, exciting football and needs a project that isn't an already over performing Leicester. Where could he ever go with that Club? Stoke - he'd have a right project on his hands. Neil ain't a bad manager if we're happy with an end of season push. Might get us 5/6th next year, woopdedoo. Jeff Bezos would p45 Neil and bring Rodgers in and take us back to the big leagues. Coates on the other hand.... And that would gamble the future of the club and if Rodgers failed, with how much we'd have had to spend to bring him in and the kind of transfer budget we'd have had to have given him to tempt him to drop to The Championship, we'd almost certainly fail FFP and end up a mess in League One like Derby. I'd rather stick with Neil right now, thanks. There's no way we could get Rodgers without offering him a package that would place the future of the club in jeopardy if it didn't work out. That's the difference between losers and winners though, winners gamble and go big.. safe and steady will result in....safe and steady. I'd be looking at Rodgers to see if he'd be interested, we've got a new car park and Hilton, he'd be reet.
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Post by stokief on Apr 2, 2023 17:21:19 GMT
I'm surprised that people would want us to change managers yet again! AN is showing us what he can do when he brings in his type of player and instills work ethic and confidence. As much as I'm sure players respect Rodgers more than a few managers we could name, they're quite happy when they've got a good man-manager with knowledge of the game who gets them to understand what he wants from them and how they're going to achieve it. I just had a look at the old wiki to remind myself of Rodgers trajectory. I'm sorry to say that as much as I know he's managed at the top level he's got a very mixed CV really, especially his start in management at lower level until he gets Swansea promoted. Management is tough. When you manage at a higher level you've got to manage a better level of player, plus expectations and big egos, you've got to be able to attract big names and make them beleive in you. I'd be surprised if another Prem Club took him on so soon after this. Leicester may well however have just made a huge mistake letting him go at this stage of the season but I guess if he's run out of ideas and players aren't responding anymore it's worth the gamble. Rodgers for Stoke?? No thanks! I'll stick with AN and hope that nobody tries to poach him from us!!!
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Post by thevoid on Apr 2, 2023 17:26:46 GMT
TP to come out of retirement No it's Leicester City not Tigers
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Post by raythesailor on Apr 2, 2023 17:28:55 GMT
My God. Yesterday the Oatcake was raving over our recent run of form and how AN has excelled in achieving it. Twenty four hours later a failing PL manager gets the sack and people are clamouring for our owners to go and get him!! I sometimes despair.
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Post by Billy the kid on Apr 2, 2023 17:41:57 GMT
If I was Coates I'd be digging deep and going for Rodgers. Be a great manager to bring in to take us to the next level. Coates is a billionaire for his excellent business sense, decision making and nous......yourself on the other hand Splitting hairs, but Coates is a billionaire for nutting, and creating Denise.
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Post by wilcopotter on Apr 2, 2023 17:44:14 GMT
It's almost like you can't wait to stick the boot into Harry any chance you get, it's quite sad and a bit weird really. He's not wrong though is he? He was fantastic at the World Cup and got glowing praise from some very knowledgeable pundits. He is a very good player and it is no wonder that. Premier League club has snapped him up, despite what the omnipresent Bayern thinks as the final verdict.
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Post by pistol on Apr 2, 2023 17:48:25 GMT
If I was Coates I'd be digging deep and going for Rodgers. Be a great manager to bring in to take us to the next level. This would have been funny yesterday
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Post by Billy the kid on Apr 2, 2023 17:50:46 GMT
I follow Leicester closely as my best mate is a Leicester die hard, The first 8 or 10 games of the season BR was actively trying his best to get the sack in a proper spitting the dummy out tantrum. Going to the media and throwing his players and chairman under the bus, due to lack of transfer activities. They took a huge loan out prior to the January transfer window, against future TV earnings in a shit or bust type of scenario. Much the same as us, the owners are minted, but FFP holds them back and Brenda knows that, but still. The reason why they have held off from sacking BR is that the pay off would be around £40m. He is on £250k per week. Any loony that thinks we should go get him is frankly off there rocker. He has an ego bigger than the USA, the temper of North Korea and the personal skills of a traffic warden.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 2, 2023 17:50:48 GMT
He's not wrong though is he? He was fantastic at the World Cup and got glowing praise from some very knowledgeable pundits. He is a very good player and it is no wonder that. Premier League club has snapped him up, despite what the omnipresent Bayern thinks as the final verdict. You don’t sign players based on world cups. It’s always been a daft thing to do.
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Post by pistol on Apr 2, 2023 17:51:31 GMT
My God. Yesterday the Oatcake was raving over our recent run of form and how AN has excelled in achieving it. Twenty four hours later a failing PL manager gets the sack and people are clamouring for our owners to go and get him!! I sometimes despair. One person does not maketh a clamour
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 2, 2023 17:57:13 GMT
I follow Leicester closely as my best mate is a Leicester die hard, The first 8 or 10 games of the season BR was actively trying his best to get the sack in a proper spitting the dummy out tantrum. Going to the media and throwing his players and chairman under the bus, due to lack of transfer activities. They took a huge loan out prior to the January transfer window, against future TV earnings in a shit or bust type of scenario. Much the same as us, the owners are minted, but FFP holds them back and Brenda knows that, but still. The reason why they have held off from sacking BR is that the pay off would be around £40m. He is on £250k per week. Any loony that thinks we should go get him is frankly off there rocker. He has an ego bigger than the USA, the temper of North Korea and the personal skills of a traffic warden. He wouldn’t come here anyway. He isn’t a bad manager, like most managers he has a shelf life. He reached his expiration date at Leicester a while back.
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Post by wherty on Apr 2, 2023 18:01:48 GMT
Patrick Viera.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 2, 2023 18:05:04 GMT
Of course he fookin was, he won one consequential game out of fourteen pretty friendly fixtures. Our PPG got worse. He took us from the fringe of the relegation zone down to four points from safety. He is without question one of the worst managerial appointments our club has ever made, and as we all know that’s a crowded field. “Old chestnut”, give me strength. Ever likely British managers “fall upwards” if this is the kind of charity they receive. It is an old chestnut and another myth on here. There was something like 0.03 PPG difference between Hughes and Lambert in that season - so a meaningless difference. Lambert inherited a shocking team and at least shored up the defence, which gave us a fighting chance of staying up. We were going nowhere but down under Hughes. Lambert is far from our worst managerial appointment. The choice wasn’t between keeping Hughes and appointing Lambert though, it was between having some imagination and looking beyond the bargain bin of has-been English managers or appointing Lambert.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 2, 2023 18:07:06 GMT
My God. Yesterday the Oatcake was raving over our recent run of form and how AN has excelled in achieving it. Twenty four hours later a failing PL manager gets the sack and people are clamouring for our owners to go and get him!! I sometimes despair. Not ‘people’ mate one person. Who appears to be in the middle of a nervous breakdown.
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Post by stokief on Apr 2, 2023 18:25:04 GMT
The problem with the end of the Hughes era was that it should've ended before we started our season of doom. I was absolutely convinced that he wouldn't be given any more time and would be gone. THAT'S when we should've been brave, got the wonga out and showed some managerial bravery...and probably taken some proper advice about who to appoint...not listen to blokes down the pub which seemed to be the norm thereafter!! However, we did go after AN initially but were thwarted by Preston so I suppose you could say we did try later..well, when it was too late. Still, he's here now! Onwards and upwards!!
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Post by Billy the kid on Apr 2, 2023 18:43:23 GMT
I follow Leicester closely as my best mate is a Leicester die hard, The first 8 or 10 games of the season BR was actively trying his best to get the sack in a proper spitting the dummy out tantrum. Going to the media and throwing his players and chairman under the bus, due to lack of transfer activities. They took a huge loan out prior to the January transfer window, against future TV earnings in a shit or bust type of scenario. Much the same as us, the owners are minted, but FFP holds them back and Brenda knows that, but still. The reason why they have held off from sacking BR is that the pay off would be around £40m. He is on £250k per week. Any loony that thinks we should go get him is frankly off there rocker. He has an ego bigger than the USA, the temper of North Korea and the personal skills of a traffic warden. He wouldn’t come here anyway. He isn’t a bad manager, like most managers he has a shelf life. He reached his expiration date at Leicester a while back. Oh I agree, and reference his ego, he will get another top job, if Everton stay up I rather fancy he may rock up there.
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Post by Billy the kid on Apr 2, 2023 18:50:11 GMT
The problem with the end of the Hughes era was that it should've ended before we started our season of doom. I was absolutely convinced that he wouldn't be given any more time and would be gone. THAT'S when we should've been brave, got the wonga out and showed some managerial bravery...and probably taken some proper advice about who to appoint...not listen to blokes down the pub which seemed to be the norm thereafter!! However, we did go after AN initially but were thwarted by Preston so I suppose you could say we did try later..well, when it was too late. Still, he's here now! Onwards and upwards!! Hughes gave us the best football this club has seen for the best part of 3 decades. I think it rather foolish to criticise him, it was clear as day that the board thought that a premier league club could be self sufficient. We had the "I dont know what the fuss is all about, we had the "the club has to be less reliant on funds from the owners, we also had MH shortly before being given the chop saying "who else would do the job". It is clear that behind the scenes that there was a cost cutting exercise going on, Arnie left because of "ambition" tempered with his own self importance, but still he wasnt wrong. The whole reading between the lines was that of a tapering off of owner funding, and the obvious self life of a manager. On the whole do I blame MH? no not really, do I blame the board? 100 percent. IF we go up next season we have over 200m that will be needed to invest in the squad just to have a chance of staying up, do I think the owners will want to? Im not so sure.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 2, 2023 18:51:39 GMT
Of course he fookin was, he won one consequential game out of fourteen pretty friendly fixtures. Our PPG got worse. He took us from the fringe of the relegation zone down to four points from safety. He is without question one of the worst managerial appointments our club has ever made, and as we all know that’s a crowded field. “Old chestnut”, give me strength. Ever likely British managers “fall upwards” if this is the kind of charity they receive. It is an old chestnut and another myth on here. There was something like 0.03 PPG difference between Hughes and Lambert in that season - so a meaningless difference. Lambert inherited a shocking team and at least shored up the defence, which gave us a fighting chance of staying up. We were going nowhere but down under Hughes. Lambert is far from our worst managerial appointment. Are you serious? Your defence is that his record was only *slightly* worse than the dreadful manager we sacked for him? Plus almost a quarter of those points came in a complete dead rubber after he’d already taken us down. He was shambolically awful and a very large contributor to our fate that season.
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