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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 26, 2023 12:29:56 GMT
The OP asked which two signings you would sign if we could sign them - whether we are likely to sign them is a different matter. There are two separate lists:
Loanees you want to sign (for me):
1 Tuanzebe 2 Smallbone 3 Pearson 4 Sterling 5 Sarkic 6 Celina 7 Hoever
Loans you think we might sign (for me):
1 Sterling (the only one I think we might actually sign) 2 Celina (based on the fact Neil was after him before and looks like he wants back in the UK) 3 Pearson (maybe but only if Bournemouth stay up) 4 Sarkic (doubt it) 5 Hoever (doubt it - and a bit flakey defensively anyway) 6 Smallbone (no chance - especially if Southampton go down) 7 Tuanzebe (no chance - too good for this league)
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Post by lordb on Mar 26, 2023 13:28:18 GMT
The OP asked which two signings you would sign if we could sign them - whether we are likely to sign them is a different matter. There are two separate lists: Loanees you want to sign (for me): 1 Tuanzebe 2 Smallbone 3 Pearson 4 Sterling 5 Sarkic 6 Celina 7 Hoever Loans you think we might sign (for me): 1 Sterling (the only one I think we might actually sign) 2 Celina (based on the fact Neil was after him before and looks like he wants back in the UK) 3 Pearson (maybe but only if Bournemouth stay up) 4 Sarkic (doubt it) 5 Hoever (doubt it - and a bit flakey defensively anyway) 6 Smallbone (no chance - especially if Southampton go down) 7 Tuanzebe (no chance - too good for this league) I would say Pearson is the most likely not wanted there, wanted here, nailed on
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 26, 2023 13:38:45 GMT
The OP asked which two signings you would sign if we could sign them - whether we are likely to sign them is a different matter. There are two separate lists: Loanees you want to sign (for me): 1 Tuanzebe 2 Smallbone 3 Pearson 4 Sterling 5 Sarkic 6 Celina 7 Hoever Loans you think we might sign (for me): 1 Sterling (the only one I think we might actually sign) 2 Celina (based on the fact Neil was after him before and looks like he wants back in the UK) 3 Pearson (maybe but only if Bournemouth stay up) 4 Sarkic (doubt it) 5 Hoever (doubt it - and a bit flakey defensively anyway) 6 Smallbone (no chance - especially if Southampton go down) 7 Tuanzebe (no chance - too good for this league) I would say Pearson is the most likely not wanted there, wanted here, nailed on If Bournemouth were to get demoted why would they sell Pearson to a potential rival? He might not have the quality to be first choice in the Premiership but he's the perfect Championship DM - they would be mad to sell him.
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Post by lordb on Mar 26, 2023 15:17:43 GMT
I would say Pearson is the most likely not wanted there, wanted here, nailed on If Bournemouth were to get demoted why would they sell Pearson to a potential rival? He might not have the quality to be first choice in the Premiership but he's the perfect Championship DM - they would be mad to sell him. Because he wants to leave and because they don't want to play him Nailed on
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 26, 2023 17:47:06 GMT
If Bournemouth were to get demoted why would they sell Pearson to a potential rival? He might not have the quality to be first choice in the Premiership but he's the perfect Championship DM - they would be mad to sell him. Because he wants to leave and because they don't want to play him Nailed on If Bournemouth stay up you have a point - if they go down he'll be a regular on Premiership wages at a team in a better position to get promoted.The chances that he will come here aren't nearly as good.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 27, 2023 7:53:20 GMT
Because he wants to leave and because they don't want to play him Nailed on If Bournemouth stay up you have a point - if they go down he'll be a regular on Premiership wages at a team in a better position to get promoted.The chances that he will come here aren't nearly as good. Clearly doesn’t want to be there. Going into his final year. Chances are they’ll take a fee rather than keep a player that wants away. Just hope we don’t pay silly money. Anything over £3.5M I think we should walk away.
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2023 8:50:49 GMT
Because he wants to leave and because they don't want to play him Nailed on If Bournemouth stay up you have a point - if they go down he'll be a regular on Premiership wages at a team in a better position to get promoted.The chances that he will come here aren't nearly as good. nope, they didn't play him in the Championship either he's not on Prem wages he signed when they were in the Championship, OK he will probably have had some sort of increase but it wont be bonkers He will want to leave ASAP, his first choice will be Stoke should be a very straight forward deal
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 27, 2023 9:06:20 GMT
If Bournemouth stay up you have a point - if they go down he'll be a regular on Premiership wages at a team in a better position to get promoted.The chances that he will come here aren't nearly as good. nope, they didn't play him in the Championship either he's not on Prem wages he signed when they were in the Championship, OK he will probably have had some sort of increase but it wont be bonkers He will want to leave ASAP, his first choice will be Stoke should be a very straight forward deal He played 23 games for them in their promotion season and in terms of promotion prospects, transfer fee (if he does go), and wages we are behind all the recently relegated teams. I'd like him here but I think you are being over confident.
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2023 9:12:46 GMT
nope, they didn't play him in the Championship either he's not on Prem wages he signed when they were in the Championship, OK he will probably have had some sort of increase but it wont be bonkers He will want to leave ASAP, his first choice will be Stoke should be a very straight forward deal He played 23 games for them in their promotion season and in terms of promotion prospects, transfer fee (if he does go), and wages we are behind all the recently relegated teams. I'd like him here but I think you are being over confident. how many of those were off the bench? for other Bournemouth players who were on prem wages then dropped down would 100% agree Pearson will not be on those type of wages
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Post by marwood on Mar 27, 2023 9:30:11 GMT
The higher up the league table we finish, the more attractive a prospect we will be for players, new and already on loan we shouldn't limit ourselves to two.
There really is all to play for
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 27, 2023 11:42:39 GMT
He played 23 games for them in their promotion season and in terms of promotion prospects, transfer fee (if he does go), and wages we are behind all the recently relegated teams. I'd like him here but I think you are being over confident. how many of those were off the bench? for other Bournemouth players who were on prem wages then dropped down would 100% agree Pearson will not be on those type of wages Of the 27 he played in total 6 were sub appearances. He's currently on £28k per week. By comparison Clucas is on £23k and Powell is on £19k - both likely to go in the summer - leaving Baker as our highest earner on £15k. So basically you are expecting Pearson to take about a £10k salary cut at a time in his career when he'll be looking to maximise his earnings. You are basing your opinion on wishful thinking - which is fair enough - but at least don't pretend it's based on anything else.
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2023 16:13:54 GMT
how many of those were off the bench? for other Bournemouth players who were on prem wages then dropped down would 100% agree Pearson will not be on those type of wages Of the 27 he played in total 6 were sub appearances. He's currently on £28k per week. By comparison Clucas is on £23k and Powell is on £19k - both likely to go in the summer - leaving Baker as our highest earner on £15k. So basically you are expecting Pearson to take about a £10k salary cut at a time in his career when he'll be looking to maximise his earnings. You are basing your opinion on wishful thinking - which is fair enough - but at least don't pretend it's based on anything else. nope not expecting him to take that kind of pay cut & quite possibly/probably no pay cut at all we have a tidy budget this summer, Pearson is number one priority would be sensible to offer him the top end of what we can pay We are in a different place than we were even compared to the January window nailed on& surely Gayle is our highest earner? are we not paying him circa £20k a week (with Newcastle paying much much more)?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 27, 2023 16:59:09 GMT
Of the 27 he played in total 6 were sub appearances. He's currently on £28k per week. By comparison Clucas is on £23k and Powell is on £19k - both likely to go in the summer - leaving Baker as our highest earner on £15k. So basically you are expecting Pearson to take about a £10k salary cut at a time in his career when he'll be looking to maximise his earnings. You are basing your opinion on wishful thinking - which is fair enough - but at least don't pretend it's based on anything else. nope not expecting him to take that kind of pay cut & quite possibly/probably no pay cut at all we have a tidy budget this summer, Pearson is number one priority would be sensible to offer him the top end of what we can pay We are in a different place than we were even compared to the January window nailed on& surely Gayle is our highest earner? are we not paying him circa £20k a week (with Newcastle paying much much more)? Yes Gayle is down as the highest earner but I don't know how much Newcastle are paying. Do you really think we will be paying anyone a £28k weekly salary next season? Really can't see it - £20k max I'd have thought. As to nailed on...are you ITK or posting the same thing often enough to convince yourself it's true?
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2023 17:21:09 GMT
nope not expecting him to take that kind of pay cut & quite possibly/probably no pay cut at all we have a tidy budget this summer, Pearson is number one priority would be sensible to offer him the top end of what we can pay We are in a different place than we were even compared to the January window nailed on& surely Gayle is our highest earner? are we not paying him circa £20k a week (with Newcastle paying much much more)? Yes Gayle is down as the highest earner but I don't know how much Newcastle are paying. Do you really think we will be paying anyone a £28k weekly salary next season? Really can't see it - £20k max I'd have thought. As to nailed on...are you ITK or posting the same thing often enough to convince yourself it's true? Deffo not ITK so will accept your barb We will see However it seems obvious, surely, that we will offer Pearson top end of what we can Everything coming out of the club and the local media is pointing to money being spent, bigger wages even £28k per week goes with that Just not the £50k we were chucking out under Rowett
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 27, 2023 18:03:58 GMT
Yes Gayle is down as the highest earner but I don't know how much Newcastle are paying. Do you really think we will be paying anyone a £28k weekly salary next season? Really can't see it - £20k max I'd have thought. As to nailed on...are you ITK or posting the same thing often enough to convince yourself it's true? Deffo not ITK so will accept your barb We will see However it seems obvious, surely, that we will offer Pearson top end of what we can Everything coming out of the club and the local media is pointing to money being spent, bigger wages even £28k per week goes with that Just not the £50k we were chucking out under Rowett It will depend how likely the salary cap at 70% of turnover that's been muted is to be introduced and when. We still don't comply with that so significantly increasing what we're willing to pay is not great preperation if they feel it will be introduced anytime soon. What I will say is that from what I've heard from him in interviews Pearson is desperate to be a major cog somewhere not a bit part player and £20K a week is still an awful lot of money.
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2023 18:22:10 GMT
Deffo not ITK so will accept your barb We will see However it seems obvious, surely, that we will offer Pearson top end of what we can Everything coming out of the club and the local media is pointing to money being spent, bigger wages even £28k per week goes with that Just not the £50k we were chucking out under Rowett It will depend how likely the salary cap at 70% of turnover that's been muted is to be introduced and when. We still don't comply with that so significantly increasing what we're willing to pay is not great preperation if they feel it will be introduced anytime soon. What I will say is that from what I've heard from him in interviews Pearson is desperate to be a major cog somewhere not a bit part player and £20K a week is still an awful lot of money. Yes it is which is why it should only go on key players like Pearson Re the £28k,presumably Bournemouth have relegation pay cuts built in to their contracts as such it's probably better that Bournemouth do drop as that would make it easier to match his salary
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Post by bolders on Mar 27, 2023 18:32:56 GMT
Probably be the standard 25% pay cut for being relegated so that will be down to £21K that’s not too bad.
Bournemouth have Rothwell, Cook and Tavernier in front of Pearson
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 28, 2023 14:43:26 GMT
Yes Gayle is down as the highest earner but I don't know how much Newcastle are paying. Do you really think we will be paying anyone a £28k weekly salary next season? Really can't see it - £20k max I'd have thought. As to nailed on...are you ITK or posting the same thing often enough to convince yourself it's true? Deffo not ITK so will accept your barb We will see However it seems obvious, surely, that we will offer Pearson top end of what we can Everything coming out of the club and the local media is pointing to money being spent, bigger wages even £28k per week goes with that Just not the £50k we were chucking out under Rowett All I'm saying is I'm not convinced you can be so certain that Pearson will sign - you haven't really provided anything to back up your argument. I'm sure we would offer Pearson the top end of our salary cap but I think £28k is going to be out of our range - we are not going to be competing on salaries with next year's or this year's relegated teams and will be behind them in the pecking order for signatories. I'm sure Pearson wants first team football but he's going to be on the list of pretty much every ambitious Championship side (including Bournemouth if they come down). If several clubs offer him prospects of first team football (and we aren't going to be the only ones) then at 28 his wages are going to be a big factor in any decision he makes.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 28, 2023 14:51:05 GMT
Pearson £20.000 aw, with large bonus if we get promotion. 🤔
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Post by hardcastle on Mar 28, 2023 15:03:41 GMT
how many of those were off the bench? for other Bournemouth players who were on prem wages then dropped down would 100% agree Pearson will not be on those type of wages Of the 27 he played in total 6 were sub appearances. He's currently on £28k per week. By comparison Clucas is on £23k and Powell is on £19k - both likely to go in the summer - leaving Baker as our highest earner on £15k. So basically you are expecting Pearson to take about a £10k salary cut at a time in his career when he'll be looking to maximise his earnings. You are basing your opinion on wishful thinking - which is fair enough - but at least don't pretend it's based on anything else. Surely it's not out of the question that we might add five grand a week to the saving we'd make to Clucas' salary and offer Pearson what he's on at Bournemouth? After all, l believe he wants to come back north if that carries any weight.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 31, 2023 7:34:06 GMT
Of the 27 he played in total 6 were sub appearances. He's currently on £28k per week. By comparison Clucas is on £23k and Powell is on £19k - both likely to go in the summer - leaving Baker as our highest earner on £15k. So basically you are expecting Pearson to take about a £10k salary cut at a time in his career when he'll be looking to maximise his earnings. You are basing your opinion on wishful thinking - which is fair enough - but at least don't pretend it's based on anything else. Surely it's not out of the question that we might add five grand a week to the saving we'd make to Clucas' salary and offer Pearson what he's on at Bournemouth? After all, l believe he wants to come back north if that carries any weight. Clucas is the last one on daft money wages - we might be better placed in terms of FFP but we aren't going to go back to paying Premier League/just got relegated wages. I'd have thought our ceiling is going to be around the £20k mark - not £28k. Clucas got £23k because we thought we'd get promoted and be able to pay his wages. We've sobered up and are managing the club based on the reality of where we are and not where we were. If he comes here Pearson will probably have to take a pay cut - if Bournemouth want rid they might subsidise his wages for a year but even then he might well be looking at a better offer from a recently relegated side gambling on an early return.
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Post by lordb on Mar 31, 2023 8:07:03 GMT
Surely it's not out of the question that we might add five grand a week to the saving we'd make to Clucas' salary and offer Pearson what he's on at Bournemouth? After all, l believe he wants to come back north if that carries any weight. Clucas is the last one on daft money wages - we might be better placed in terms of FFP but we aren't going to go back to paying Premier League/just got relegated wages. I'd have thought our ceiling is going to be around the £20k mark - not £28k. Clucas got £23k because we thought we'd get promoted and be able to pay his wages. We've sobered up and are managing the club based on the reality of where we are and not where we were. If he comes here Pearson will probably have to take a pay cut - if Bournemouth want rid they might subsidise his wages for a year but even then he might well be looking at a better offer from a recently relegated side gambling on an early return. Clucas was on way more than £23k originally, we did a deal whereby he got an extended contract on vastly reduced wages to £23k as has been pointed out if Bournemouth come down Pearsons wages are probably going to have a relegation cut to aprox 321k whihc makes the money work If Bournemouth don't come down he's even less chance of playing, you'd then be looking at a deal where we pay £20k & Bournemouth pay the rest He wants out, he's wanted here, he likes it here not least re AN either way the money works nailed on
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 31, 2023 8:54:20 GMT
Clucas is the last one on daft money wages - we might be better placed in terms of FFP but we aren't going to go back to paying Premier League/just got relegated wages. I'd have thought our ceiling is going to be around the £20k mark - not £28k. Clucas got £23k because we thought we'd get promoted and be able to pay his wages. We've sobered up and are managing the club based on the reality of where we are and not where we were. If he comes here Pearson will probably have to take a pay cut - if Bournemouth want rid they might subsidise his wages for a year but even then he might well be looking at a better offer from a recently relegated side gambling on an early return. Clucas was on way more than £23k originally, we did a deal whereby he got an extended contract on vastly reduced wages to £23k as has been pointed out if Bournemouth come down Pearsons wages are probably going to have a relegation cut to aprox 321k whihc makes the money work If Bournemouth don't come down he's even less chance of playing, you'd then be looking at a deal where we pay £20k & Bournemouth pay the rest He wants out, he's wanted here, he likes it here not least re AN either way the money works nailed on OK....you've convinced yourself but those nails of yours are blu tack.
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