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Post by thebet365 on Mar 29, 2023 8:29:42 GMT
JC mentioned original plan to spend 20 million quid on upgrading the ground and Clayton wood has been ditched and will now be a lot more than that . I might be missing something? If we can spend these sums on the ground, why can't we spend it on players? At the end of the day, money is money Infrastructure isn't counted in the ffp review. You can build a colloseum but can't pay for the gladiators.
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Post by scfc75 on Mar 29, 2023 8:31:29 GMT
JC mentioned original plan to spend 20 million quid on upgrading the ground and Clayton wood has been ditched and will now be a lot more than that . I might be missing something? If we can spend these sums on the ground, why can't we spend it on players? At the end of the day, money is money Infrastructure isn't counted in the ffp review. You can build a colleseum but can't pay for the gladiators. Nice analogy 🙂
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Post by ceejays on Mar 29, 2023 9:04:21 GMT
A staged managed meeting. Strategically timed to coincide with the feel good factor currently around the club . Aimed probably at season ticket sales . Of course they had sight of the questions beforehand. Perhaps not all of them but John Coates always gives the game away in that regard. I don’t think he can think on his feet . AN and Tricky Ricky certainly can. It’s a meeting where the panel don’t really get asked any challenging or thought provoking questions. They don’t have to be in rich language . A far better meeting would be to stick a supporter in front of AN a few times a season rather than Angela’s softly softly approach. So AN there was a watershed match after which things went pear shaped. One of the many reasons for our fall from grace. The semi final of the league cup versus Liverpool. Going to penalties step forward ( or more accurately flop to the right ) a certain Jack Butland. The sky panel on the night commented with a fair degree of mirth as to Butland diving to the right. He subsequently faced 5 or 6 ( maybe more) penalties as a Stoke player. Each time falling to the right - sometimes before the ball had been kicked. Clearly no homework was done on opposition penalty takers. Clearly not practiced in training. Yet roll forward a year or so and as a Crystal Palace keeper the first penalty he faced ( v Brighton) he dived to his left and saved !! So AN do we do our homework now ? Do we practice in training. And it’s not just the keeper situation. Here is a list of our horrific record of taking penalties. Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 29, 2023 9:45:28 GMT
Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more. You're alright mate, just the one was enough
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Post by lordb on Mar 29, 2023 9:54:15 GMT
A staged managed meeting. Strategically timed to coincide with the feel good factor currently around the club . Aimed probably at season ticket sales . Of course they had sight of the questions beforehand. Perhaps not all of them but John Coates always gives the game away in that regard. I don’t think he can think on his feet . AN and Tricky Ricky certainly can. It’s a meeting where the panel don’t really get asked any challenging or thought provoking questions. They don’t have to be in rich language . A far better meeting would be to stick a supporter in front of AN a few times a season rather than Angela’s softly softly approach. So AN there was a watershed match after which things went pear shaped. One of the many reasons for our fall from grace. The semi final of the league cup versus Liverpool. Going to penalties step forward ( or more accurately flop to the right ) a certain Jack Butland. The sky panel on the night commented with a fair degree of mirth as to Butland diving to the right. He subsequently faced 5 or 6 ( maybe more) penalties as a Stoke player. Each time falling to the right - sometimes before the ball had been kicked. Clearly no homework was done on opposition penalty takers. Clearly not practiced in training. Yet roll forward a year or so and as a Crystal Palace keeper the first penalty he faced ( v Brighton) he dived to his left and saved !! So AN do we do our homework now ? Do we practice in training. And it’s not just the keeper situation. Here is a list of our horrific record of taking penalties. Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more. Angela? Was she involved last night? Absolutely pointless asking AN about Butlands penalty record Be like asking Coates about the Butler Street stand not being insured properly How many penalties have been awarded against Stoke this season? Is it none? Also our penalty taking record has massively improved thanks to Baker Missed one scored 6 or 7
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Post by ceejays on Mar 29, 2023 10:17:28 GMT
A staged managed meeting. Strategically timed to coincide with the feel good factor currently around the club . Aimed probably at season ticket sales . Of course they had sight of the questions beforehand. Perhaps not all of them but John Coates always gives the game away in that regard. I don’t think he can think on his feet . AN and Tricky Ricky certainly can. It’s a meeting where the panel don’t really get asked any challenging or thought provoking questions. They don’t have to be in rich language . A far better meeting would be to stick a supporter in front of AN a few times a season rather than Angela’s softly softly approach. So AN there was a watershed match after which things went pear shaped. One of the many reasons for our fall from grace. The semi final of the league cup versus Liverpool. Going to penalties step forward ( or more accurately flop to the right ) a certain Jack Butland. The sky panel on the night commented with a fair degree of mirth as to Butland diving to the right. He subsequently faced 5 or 6 ( maybe more) penalties as a Stoke player. Each time falling to the right - sometimes before the ball had been kicked. Clearly no homework was done on opposition penalty takers. Clearly not practiced in training. Yet roll forward a year or so and as a Crystal Palace keeper the first penalty he faced ( v Brighton) he dived to his left and saved !! So AN do we do our homework now ? Do we practice in training. And it’s not just the keeper situation. Here is a list of our horrific record of taking penalties. Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more. Angela? Was she involved last night? Absolutely pointless asking AN about Butlands penalty record Be like asking Coates about the Butler Street stand not being insured properly How many penalties have been awarded against Stoke this season? Is it none? Also our penalty taking record has massively improved thanks to Baker Missed one scored 6 or 7
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Post by ceejays on Mar 29, 2023 10:25:35 GMT
Think you massively miss the point . The meet the manager is staged managed . Far better would be replacing Angela on weekly press duty a few times a year . Fans would have to be hand picked to ensure sensible questions and no rich language. So here’s another example. When in premier league we went something like 160 corners before scoring. Our current corner kick routines lack invention . It seems we just throw into the mix and hope our blocking strategies work. No Beckham/ Scholes corners ( last one was Fletcher v Watford) no sheringham corners ( Walters at West Ham the last) No Ocallaghan/ Maguire corners . No Sheffield United inventions . Over to you AN .
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 29, 2023 10:27:37 GMT
A staged managed meeting. Strategically timed to coincide with the feel good factor currently around the club . Aimed probably at season ticket sales . Of course they had sight of the questions beforehand. Perhaps not all of them but John Coates always gives the game away in that regard. I don’t think he can think on his feet . AN and Tricky Ricky certainly can. It’s a meeting where the panel don’t really get asked any challenging or thought provoking questions. They don’t have to be in rich language . A far better meeting would be to stick a supporter in front of AN a few times a season rather than Angela’s softly softly approach. So AN there was a watershed match after which things went pear shaped. One of the many reasons for our fall from grace. The semi final of the league cup versus Liverpool. Going to penalties step forward ( or more accurately flop to the right ) a certain Jack Butland. The sky panel on the night commented with a fair degree of mirth as to Butland diving to the right. He subsequently faced 5 or 6 ( maybe more) penalties as a Stoke player. Each time falling to the right - sometimes before the ball had been kicked. Clearly no homework was done on opposition penalty takers. Clearly not practiced in training. Yet roll forward a year or so and as a Crystal Palace keeper the first penalty he faced ( v Brighton) he dived to his left and saved !! So AN do we do our homework now ? Do we practice in training. And it’s not just the keeper situation. Here is a list of our horrific record of taking penalties. Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more. Nice to see someone's happy with the way things are improving. You happy clappers will support anything.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 29, 2023 10:32:14 GMT
A staged managed meeting. Strategically timed to coincide with the feel good factor currently around the club . Aimed probably at season ticket sales . Of course they had sight of the questions beforehand. Perhaps not all of them but John Coates always gives the game away in that regard. I don’t think he can think on his feet . AN and Tricky Ricky certainly can. It’s a meeting where the panel don’t really get asked any challenging or thought provoking questions. They don’t have to be in rich language . A far better meeting would be to stick a supporter in front of AN a few times a season rather than Angela’s softly softly approach. So AN there was a watershed match after which things went pear shaped. One of the many reasons for our fall from grace. The semi final of the league cup versus Liverpool. Going to penalties step forward ( or more accurately flop to the right ) a certain Jack Butland. The sky panel on the night commented with a fair degree of mirth as to Butland diving to the right. He subsequently faced 5 or 6 ( maybe more) penalties as a Stoke player. Each time falling to the right - sometimes before the ball had been kicked. Clearly no homework was done on opposition penalty takers. Clearly not practiced in training. Yet roll forward a year or so and as a Crystal Palace keeper the first penalty he faced ( v Brighton) he dived to his left and saved !! So AN do we do our homework now ? Do we practice in training. And it’s not just the keeper situation. Here is a list of our horrific record of taking penalties. Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more. A question of more relevance to you starts by talking about a keeper who left the club 2 years prior to Neil's arrival and his performance in a penalty shootout that occurred 7 years ago? Baker's scored every pen we've had under Neil, I really don't know what you would want him to say other than "yes".
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Post by ceejays on Mar 29, 2023 10:36:05 GMT
A staged managed meeting. Strategically timed to coincide with the feel good factor currently around the club . Aimed probably at season ticket sales . Of course they had sight of the questions beforehand. Perhaps not all of them but John Coates always gives the game away in that regard. I don’t think he can think on his feet . AN and Tricky Ricky certainly can. It’s a meeting where the panel don’t really get asked any challenging or thought provoking questions. They don’t have to be in rich language . A far better meeting would be to stick a supporter in front of AN a few times a season rather than Angela’s softly softly approach. So AN there was a watershed match after which things went pear shaped. One of the many reasons for our fall from grace. The semi final of the league cup versus Liverpool. Going to penalties step forward ( or more accurately flop to the right ) a certain Jack Butland. The sky panel on the night commented with a fair degree of mirth as to Butland diving to the right. He subsequently faced 5 or 6 ( maybe more) penalties as a Stoke player. Each time falling to the right - sometimes before the ball had been kicked. Clearly no homework was done on opposition penalty takers. Clearly not practiced in training. Yet roll forward a year or so and as a Crystal Palace keeper the first penalty he faced ( v Brighton) he dived to his left and saved !! So AN do we do our homework now ? Do we practice in training. And it’s not just the keeper situation. Here is a list of our horrific record of taking penalties. Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more. Nice to see someone's happy with the way things are improving. You happy clappers will support anything. So is the meet the manager meeting not staged managed ? It makes eminent sense to promote the feel good factor atm . With a view to encouraging season ticket sales . Sound thinking and sound management. That’s not the point I’m making. What do the panel get out of the meeting? I suggest very little. Whereas constructive questions posed to AN in the format I’m suggesting would be thought provoking. Might actually be a better way ? It’s not negative. The reverse. But folk are too quick to criticism without understanding the motive. Lots of questions can be asked in this way that are challenging but positive
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 29, 2023 10:38:03 GMT
Think you massively miss the point . The meet the manager is staged managed . Far better would be replacing Angela on weekly press duty a few times a year . Fans would have to be hand picked to ensure sensible questions and no rich language. So here’s another example. When in premier league we went something like 160 corners before scoring. Our current corner kick routines lack invention . It seems we just throw into the mix and hope our blocking strategies work. No Beckham/ Scholes corners ( last one was Fletcher v Watford) no sheringham corners ( Walters at West Ham the last) No Ocallaghan/ Maguire corners . No Sheffield United inventions . Over to you AN . I think he'll be fairly content with set pieces to be honest - I think only about three teams in the division have scored more from them than us?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 10:39:03 GMT
Think you massively miss the point . The meet the manager is staged managed . Far better would be replacing Angela on weekly press duty a few times a year . Fans would have to be hand picked to ensure sensible questions and no rich language. So here’s another example. When in premier league we went something like 160 corners before scoring. Our current corner kick routines lack invention . It seems we just throw into the mix and hope our blocking strategies work. No Beckham/ Scholes corners ( last one was Fletcher v Watford) no sheringham corners ( Walters at West Ham the last) No Ocallaghan/ Maguire corners . No Sheffield United inventions . Over to you AN . We're 14th in the league for scoring from corners with 6 goals from them. Considering we don't have any massive strikers, and our only tall (>6'2") centre halves (Souttar and Flint) played 18% and 24% of the team's minutes respectively this season, I think that's actually not bad. Think I read somewhere that corners are much worse chances than you'd think. Something like only 3% of them result in goals, and most of those aren't direct headers/shots immediately from the corner cross. Fans doing press conference questions is a terrible idea, all of us are way too biased and agenda-driven, and we wouldn't get any proper answers anyway. For example, the question above about Butland once saving a penalty for Palace and us not beating Liverpool 8 years ago might come up, and a manager will shrug and say 'what am I meant to say to that?'
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 29, 2023 10:39:33 GMT
Think you massively miss the point . The meet the manager is staged managed . Far better would be replacing Angela on weekly press duty a few times a year . Fans would have to be hand picked to ensure sensible questions and no rich language. So here’s another example. When in premier league we went something like 160 corners before scoring. Our current corner kick routines lack invention . It seems we just throw into the mix and hope our blocking strategies work. No Beckham/ Scholes corners ( last one was Fletcher v Watford) no sheringham corners ( Walters at West Ham the last) No Ocallaghan/ Maguire corners . No Sheffield United inventions . Over to you AN . I think he'll be fairly content with set pieces to be honest - I think only about three teams in the division have scored more from them than us? Yep, we are joint 4th with 12 goals from set pieces with only Millwall, Birmingham and Sheffield United scoring more.
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Post by ceejays on Mar 29, 2023 10:46:04 GMT
Think you massively miss the point . The meet the manager is staged managed . Far better would be replacing Angela on weekly press duty a few times a year . Fans would have to be hand picked to ensure sensible questions and no rich language. So here’s another example. When in premier league we went something like 160 corners before scoring. Our current corner kick routines lack invention . It seems we just throw into the mix and hope our blocking strategies work. No Beckham/ Scholes corners ( last one was Fletcher v Watford) no sheringham corners ( Walters at West Ham the last) No Ocallaghan/ Maguire corners . No Sheffield United inventions . Over to you AN . We're 14th in the league for scoring from corners with 6 goals from them. Considering we don't have any massive strikers, and our only tall (>6'2") centre halves (Souttar and Flint) played 18% and 24% of the team's minutes respectively this season, I think that's actually not bad. Think I read somewhere that corners are much worse chances than you'd think. Something like only 3% of them result in goals, and most of those aren't direct headers/shots immediately from the corner cross. Fans doing press conference questions is a terrible idea, all of us are way too biased and agenda-driven, and we wouldn't get any proper answers anyway. For example, the question above about Butland once saving a penalty for Palace and us not beating Liverpool 8 years ago might come up, and a manager will shrug and say 'what am I meant to say to that?' I take your point . I was merely saying history is there to be learned from and I concede your point. Also I accept the point about corners but that’s not to say we can’t be a lot lot better. There is no attempt at invention as far as I can see . My main point is how can meet the manager meetings be better than they are. If in any doubt roll back the O’Neill meeting. Anyway you are probably right about a fan replacing Angela but she does give him a soft ride .
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 29, 2023 10:47:44 GMT
Of course the Q&A is going to be soft serve questions that are pre-screened and accessible to answer. I'm not entirely sure why anyone was expecting anything else when it's purely at the discretion of the club to hold these events, they're going to do their best to make themselves not look like complete idiots. I think everyone has a tonne of questions about the last 5 years and what could have been and what's gone wrong but they're ultimately in reality not accountable to fans beyond us displaying our ire at games and on forums.
We're not a diplomatically run club, we can't vote out managers or club staff we don't like. Not many clubs are (for better or worse) and in our case that's the price of having a family of billionaires running the place (again for better or worse).
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Post by werrington on Mar 29, 2023 10:53:13 GMT
A staged managed meeting. Strategically timed to coincide with the feel good factor currently around the club . Aimed probably at season ticket sales . Of course they had sight of the questions beforehand. Perhaps not all of them but John Coates always gives the game away in that regard. I don’t think he can think on his feet . AN and Tricky Ricky certainly can. It’s a meeting where the panel don’t really get asked any challenging or thought provoking questions. They don’t have to be in rich language . A far better meeting would be to stick a supporter in front of AN a few times a season rather than Angela’s softly softly approach. So AN there was a watershed match after which things went pear shaped. One of the many reasons for our fall from grace. The semi final of the league cup versus Liverpool. Going to penalties step forward ( or more accurately flop to the right ) a certain Jack Butland. The sky panel on the night commented with a fair degree of mirth as to Butland diving to the right. He subsequently faced 5 or 6 ( maybe more) penalties as a Stoke player. Each time falling to the right - sometimes before the ball had been kicked. Clearly no homework was done on opposition penalty takers. Clearly not practiced in training. Yet roll forward a year or so and as a Crystal Palace keeper the first penalty he faced ( v Brighton) he dived to his left and saved !! So AN do we do our homework now ? Do we practice in training. And it’s not just the keeper situation. Here is a list of our horrific record of taking penalties. Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more. Seriously wtf has it all got to do with Angela Smith? It never sold out You could of rocked up and stolen the show?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 29, 2023 10:59:51 GMT
Nice to see someone's happy with the way things are improving. You happy clappers will support anything. So is the meet the manager meeting not staged managed ? It makes eminent sense to promote the feel good factor atm . With a view to encouraging season ticket sales . Sound thinking and sound management. That’s not the point I’m making. What do the panel get out of the meeting? I suggest very little. Whereas constructive questions posed to AN in the format I’m suggesting would be thought provoking. Might actually be a better way ? It’s not negative. The reverse. But folk are too quick to criticism without understanding the motive. Lots of questions can be asked in this way that are challenging but positive I have no idea if it was stage managed in any way. I didn't attend and I haven't watched it back. Someone who asked a question might be able to tell you better if they were vetted beforehand. But I'd suggest that it would make sense to manage it in some way otherwise you get random people asking countless irrelevant questions like 'why it took us 160 corners to score a goal back in 2008' or 'why Jack Butland was shit at penalties'. Or why they don't serve Marstons Pedigree on draught in the Family Stand. Of course it's sensible to have something like this at this point in the season to try and push a positive message for the future, to inform and engage the fanbase, and yes, to encourage season ticket sales. It's sound business as well as good PR. And I'm presuming for this reason it's not what the panel get out of it but what the supporters get out of it that matters. In other words it's the panel's opportunity to lay out their vision both short and long term rather than to take advice from fans on how to conduct a multimillion pound business or how to set up a football team. So it would make sense to tailor/encourage/choose (take your pick) questions in order to best get these points across. Anyone who thinks it was ever going to be 'Any Questions' was always going to be seriously disappointed. And you may think you're not being negative but that's certainly the way you come across to me. Particularly in that first post.
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Post by ceejays on Mar 29, 2023 11:01:38 GMT
Really ? Well there’s the answer then . We know they are stage managed so what’s the point in turning up I guess . Perhaps then a question along the lines of our new restructuring ? Any women in this new restructure? Lol
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Post by ceejays on Mar 29, 2023 11:08:11 GMT
So is the meet the manager meeting not staged managed ? It makes eminent sense to promote the feel good factor atm . With a view to encouraging season ticket sales . Sound thinking and sound management. That’s not the point I’m making. What do the panel get out of the meeting? I suggest very little. Whereas constructive questions posed to AN in the format I’m suggesting would be thought provoking. Might actually be a better way ? It’s not negative. The reverse. But folk are too quick to criticism without understanding the motive. Lots of questions can be asked in this way that are challenging but positive I have no idea if it was stage managed in any way. I didn't attend and I haven't watched it back. Someone who asked a question might be able to tell you better if they were vetted beforehand. But I'd suggest that it would make sense to manage it in some way otherwise you get random people asking countless irrelevant questions like 'why it took us 160 corners to score a goal back in 2008' or 'why Jack Butland was shit at penalties'. Or why they don't serve Marstons Pedigree on draught in the Family Stand. Of course it's sensible to have something like this at this point in the season to try and push a positive message for the future, to inform and engage the fanbase, and yes, to encourage season ticket sales. It's sound business as well as good PR. And I'm presuming for this reason it's not what the panel get out of it but what the supporters get out of it that matters. In other words it's the panel's opportunity to lay out their vision both short and long term rather than to take advice from fans on how to conduct a multimillion pound business or how to set up a football team. So it would make sense to tailor/encourage/choose (take your pick) questions in order to best get these points across. Anyone who thinks it was ever going to be 'Any Questions' was always going to be seriously disappointed. And you may think you're not being negative but that's certainly the way you come across to me. Particularly in that first post. Perhaps I expanded the Butland issue too far so I can see how you consider that negative. Point taken. The clubs fall from grace I think we all agree is more to do with blindly following the trust the manager support the manager business model. This phrase (business model) was mentioned a good few times last night hence the restructuring. But horizontal management structures ( which this is ) have their pitfalls
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Post by lordb on Mar 29, 2023 11:10:12 GMT
Think you massively miss the point . The meet the manager is staged managed . Far better would be replacing Angela on weekly press duty a few times a year . Fans would have to be hand picked to ensure sensible questions and no rich language. So here’s another example. When in premier league we went something like 160 corners before scoring. Our current corner kick routines lack invention . It seems we just throw into the mix and hope our blocking strategies work. No Beckham/ Scholes corners ( last one was Fletcher v Watford) no sheringham corners ( Walters at West Ham the last) No Ocallaghan/ Maguire corners . No Sheffield United inventions . Over to you AN . Thank you for missing my point perfectly happy to see an argument against stage managed meet the manager evenings However given Angela wasn't involved she is irrelevant to any criticism of the evening Again you are referencing ancient history which AN cannot answer as he wasn't here We score an average number of goals from corners re our league which given atm we have a shorter side is OK If you or anyone else had stood up and asked that question in that way happy to inform you that would come across as an absolute buffoon If you want meet the managers to have at least an element of 'live' questions you are going to have to come up with some actual relevant questions At the moment having read your posts I'm currently of the opinion that it's best to leave it staged as otherwise it could be very embarrassing for us supporters
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Post by ceejays on Mar 29, 2023 11:18:47 GMT
Think you massively miss the point . The meet the manager is staged managed . Far better would be replacing Angela on weekly press duty a few times a year . Fans would have to be hand picked to ensure sensible questions and no rich language. So here’s another example. When in premier league we went something like 160 corners before scoring. Our current corner kick routines lack invention . It seems we just throw into the mix and hope our blocking strategies work. No Beckham/ Scholes corners ( last one was Fletcher v Watford) no sheringham corners ( Walters at West Ham the last) No Ocallaghan/ Maguire corners . No Sheffield United inventions . Over to you AN . Thank you for missing my point perfectly happy to see an argument against stage managed meet the manager evenings However given Angela wasn't involved she is irrelevant to any criticism of the evening Again you are referencing ancient history which AN cannot answer as he wasn't here We score an average number of goals from corners re our league which given atm we have a shorter side is OK If you or anyone else had stood up and asked that question in that way happy to inform you that would come across as an absolute buffoon If you want meet the managers to have at least an element of 'live' questions you are going to have to come up with some actual relevant questions At the moment having read your posts I'm currently of the opinion that it's best to leave it staged as otherwise it could be very embarrassing for us supporters I’m not suggesting that these questions are asked at meet the manager meetings. Think you miss my point. I simply wouldn’t ask that type of question at that type of meeting. I’m saying that Angela in her weekly press interviews gives AN a soft ride . I concede that a long winded Jack Butland question could be simply do we do our homework on penalties as we have an historic horrific record . Simply put then . My corner issue is still that we show no invention so regardless of the stats stated above ( really good ones) the point is valid . As is horizontal management
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 29, 2023 11:33:19 GMT
I have no idea if it was stage managed in any way. I didn't attend and I haven't watched it back. Someone who asked a question might be able to tell you better if they were vetted beforehand. But I'd suggest that it would make sense to manage it in some way otherwise you get random people asking countless irrelevant questions like 'why it took us 160 corners to score a goal back in 2008' or 'why Jack Butland was shit at penalties'. Or why they don't serve Marstons Pedigree on draught in the Family Stand. Of course it's sensible to have something like this at this point in the season to try and push a positive message for the future, to inform and engage the fanbase, and yes, to encourage season ticket sales. It's sound business as well as good PR. And I'm presuming for this reason it's not what the panel get out of it but what the supporters get out of it that matters. In other words it's the panel's opportunity to lay out their vision both short and long term rather than to take advice from fans on how to conduct a multimillion pound business or how to set up a football team. So it would make sense to tailor/encourage/choose (take your pick) questions in order to best get these points across. Anyone who thinks it was ever going to be 'Any Questions' was always going to be seriously disappointed. And you may think you're not being negative but that's certainly the way you come across to me. Particularly in that first post. Perhaps I expanded the Butland issue too far so I can see how you consider that negative. Point taken. The clubs fall from grace I think we all agree is more to do with blindly following the trust the manager support the manager business model. This phrase (business model) was mentioned a good few times last night hence the restructuring. But horizontal management structures ( which this is ) have their pitfalls They also have their advantages as well don't they?
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Mar 29, 2023 13:03:33 GMT
Think you massively miss the point . The meet the manager is staged managed . Far better would be replacing Angela on weekly press duty a few times a year . Fans would have to be hand picked to ensure sensible questions and no rich language. So here’s another example. When in premier league we went something like 160 corners before scoring. Our current corner kick routines lack invention . It seems we just throw into the mix and hope our blocking strategies work. No Beckham/ Scholes corners ( last one was Fletcher v Watford) no sheringham corners ( Walters at West Ham the last) No Ocallaghan/ Maguire corners . No Sheffield United inventions . Over to you AN . No one is missing the point because you haven't made one. It's the usual incoherent, borderline pissed waffle from you. And what the hell has Angela Smith got to do with any of this? Good grief, absolutely embarrassing.
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 29, 2023 13:44:12 GMT
When the next meet the manager meeting. I need to know Alex’s opinion on Rob Styles decisions against Gillingham in the play offs. And as for players poor performance would he have had words with Jimmy Greenhoff after missing that sitter against Arsenal in the cup semi? On a side note I would like to know if he would have butted Beattie whilst naked or would he have put his shorts on first?
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 29, 2023 14:11:36 GMT
I think we should respect the decent answers and production/preparation of this event. I'm usually really critical but from what I saw it was really well managed and answered by all involved. I think we should cut John some slack, there are lots of positive signs, so let's hope they come to fruition.
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 29, 2023 14:18:18 GMT
Can't believe we let Matthews go with 4 games of the season remaining and us challenging for the title. Could Alex let us know why that decision was taken and whether it was FFP that forced us to sell him?
Could he also clear up whether we were actually formed in 1863 and, if not, why we continue to have that date on the shirt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 14:44:21 GMT
A staged managed meeting. Strategically timed to coincide with the feel good factor currently around the club . Aimed probably at season ticket sales . Of course they had sight of the questions beforehand. Perhaps not all of them but John Coates always gives the game away in that regard. I don’t think he can think on his feet . AN and Tricky Ricky certainly can. It’s a meeting where the panel don’t really get asked any challenging or thought provoking questions. They don’t have to be in rich language . A far better meeting would be to stick a supporter in front of AN a few times a season rather than Angela’s softly softly approach. So AN there was a watershed match after which things went pear shaped. One of the many reasons for our fall from grace. The semi final of the league cup versus Liverpool. Going to penalties step forward ( or more accurately flop to the right ) a certain Jack Butland. The sky panel on the night commented with a fair degree of mirth as to Butland diving to the right. He subsequently faced 5 or 6 ( maybe more) penalties as a Stoke player. Each time falling to the right - sometimes before the ball had been kicked. Clearly no homework was done on opposition penalty takers. Clearly not practiced in training. Yet roll forward a year or so and as a Crystal Palace keeper the first penalty he faced ( v Brighton) he dived to his left and saved !! So AN do we do our homework now ? Do we practice in training. And it’s not just the keeper situation. Here is a list of our horrific record of taking penalties. Now that to me is the type of question that has more relevance. I’ve plenty more. Seriously wtf has it all got to do with Angela Smith? It never sold out You could of rocked up and stolen the show? Judging by the first two questions that came into his head I'd plump for big fat, fuck off no being the answer to that one
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Post by sportsman on Mar 29, 2023 16:17:38 GMT
I can see why they all said they don't go on social media. It's full of miserable dickheads like on here who always find something to moan about from a positive meeting.
Sort your lives out.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 29, 2023 16:18:30 GMT
I can see why they all said they don't go on social media. It's full of miserable dickheads like on here who always find something to moan about from a positive meeting. Sort your lives out. ..and then there's a handful of complete whoppers who come on and moan about them. Oh, alright Sportsman lad? How's it going?
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Post by sportsman on Mar 29, 2023 17:06:28 GMT
I can see why they all said they don't go on social media. It's full of miserable dickheads like on here who always find something to moan about from a positive meeting. Sort your lives out. ..and then there's a handful of complete whoppers who come on and moan about them. Oh, alright Sportsman lad? How's it going? But my point if you read it is saying why they don't use social media, and I put why. A positive meeting turns into moaning about the club. Only on here. Oh and yeah I'm all good mate!
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