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Post by apb1 on Mar 9, 2023 9:28:36 GMT
Not suggesting the gravity crocodile is stirring, but the next 3 games will be a real test:
Blackburn - 4 straight wins, on a cup run. Flying! On the other hand they will come looking to win which can help our game.
Boro - feels like we always lose there. Similarly in good form and likely to beat us (they also have refs on their side as that non-penalty for Reading showed).
Norwich - picking up form after a sticky spell. Another team we often struggle against in their recent yoyo iteration anyway.
Points prediction - an optimistic 4, beating cocky Blackburn and drawing Norwich.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 9, 2023 9:38:09 GMT
We could do okay, and still not pick up any points from those three. But, fortunately, the run-in now will probably just determine whereabouts in mid-table we finish, and if we can get our best Championship finish since relegation. That said, Blackburn do appear very, very lucky to be as high as they are. www.infogol.net/en/leagues/english-football-league-championship-table-2022-23/439Amazingly, based on the xg stuff, we should be fighting for the play-offs (8th), and they should be battling relegation (20th) |
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 9, 2023 9:38:19 GMT
9 points.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 9, 2023 9:49:09 GMT
That's the perverse way SCFC have always done it. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 9, 2023 9:53:37 GMT
4 points.
Draw tomorrow night, lose at Boro, beat Norwich.
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 9, 2023 9:57:58 GMT
That's the perverse way SCFC have always done it. I always think we do better when teams need to win against us and come to attack. Not saying we'll win tomorrow but I'm looking forward to both Blackburn and Norwich as they should be good open games. I enjoyed the Brighton game more than most home games for 5 seasons despite losing because we lost to a team who came to play football not to stop us playing. |
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Post by werrington on Mar 9, 2023 10:04:28 GMT
Three teams who’ll come at us and not sit in
Just up our street
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Post by march4 on Mar 9, 2023 10:10:00 GMT
We still lack the consistency for a proper promotion run but on our day we can compete with anyone.
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Post by stokiejoe on Mar 9, 2023 10:23:22 GMT
On the bright side this is just what we need to build up for next season. We look safe, barring a complete meltdown, so now is a good time to bring on some players like Lowe. Whether Neil will do this I doubt but it seems shameful to gave him sitting on the bench game after game without letting him have a decent run out.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 9, 2023 10:45:28 GMT
We could do okay, and still not pick up any points from those three. But, fortunately, the run-in now will probably just determine whereabouts in mid-table we finish, and if we can get our best Championship finish since relegation. That said, Blackburn do appear very, very lucky to be as high as they are. www.infogol.net/en/leagues/english-football-league-championship-table-2022-23/439Amazingly, based on the xg stuff, we should be fighting for the play-offs (8th), and they should be battling relegation (20th) Blackburn appear to have gone all binary (nowhere near a Tony Pulis binary Season) with their last 6 results and half their games this season have been binary scores with lots of 1-0 wins....so expect a goal fest  |
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Post by iamstokie on Mar 9, 2023 11:21:46 GMT
We could do okay, and still not pick up any points from those three. But, fortunately, the run-in now will probably just determine whereabouts in mid-table we finish, and if we can get our best Championship finish since relegation. That said, Blackburn do appear very, very lucky to be as high as they are. www.infogol.net/en/leagues/english-football-league-championship-table-2022-23/439Amazingly, based on the xg stuff, we should be fighting for the play-offs (8th), and they should be battling relegation (20th) Yet another reason why xg is shite |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 9, 2023 11:41:26 GMT
I'm thinking a win tomorrow night against Blackburn, a loss at Boro and a win against Norwich. So 6 points which would be great from those three tricky fixtures.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 9, 2023 11:46:01 GMT
I actually think we’ll lose all 3.
We might pick up something tomorrow, but don’t think we will against Middlesbrough or Norwich.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 9, 2023 11:51:48 GMT
More confident of these kind of games than playing teams in and around us. Saying that, we'll be lucky get anything at Boro.
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 9, 2023 12:00:54 GMT
We could do okay, and still not pick up any points from those three. But, fortunately, the run-in now will probably just determine whereabouts in mid-table we finish, and if we can get our best Championship finish since relegation. That said, Blackburn do appear very, very lucky to be as high as they are. www.infogol.net/en/leagues/english-football-league-championship-table-2022-23/439Amazingly, based on the xg stuff, we should be fighting for the play-offs (8th), and they should be battling relegation (20th) Yet another reason why xg is shite No it proves what we've all been saying - if we had a forward who could score 15 or more goals we'd have won far more games and be a lot higher in the table. Take Millwall and Blackpool, two games we could have won if we'd taken our chances which is basically what xG is. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 9, 2023 12:12:43 GMT
Win tomorrow
Everything seems to be going for Boro, so can't see anything there
Win against Norwich
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Post by lordb on Mar 9, 2023 12:13:09 GMT
4 points. Draw tomorrow night, lose at Boro, beat Norwich. draw tomorrow, win at Boro lose to Norwich |
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 9, 2023 12:22:16 GMT
They are all in their own ways very winnable games. We should certainly not fear any of the challenges and I am sure the other teams will be seriously looking at this Stoke team as a really difficult match..we can play with freedom and as it's unlikely any of the 3 will adopt a low block, this should also suit us..
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 9, 2023 12:38:49 GMT
Yet another reason why xg is shite No it proves what we've all been saying - if we had a forward who could score 15 or more goals we'd have won far more games and be a lot higher in the table. Take Millwall and Blackpool, two games we could have won if we'd taken our chances which is basically what xG is. I nearly always find the xg a more accurate reflection of a game I’ve watched than the actual score line. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 9, 2023 13:02:39 GMT
Obviously I would like more,but 4 pts.won't be a disaster.
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Post by bolly_premprem on Mar 9, 2023 13:09:11 GMT
3 points, based on our current win 1 well, lose next 0-1 trend
Blackburn 1-0 loss
Boro 3-1 win
Norwich 1-0 loss
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Post by anchorman on Mar 9, 2023 14:12:38 GMT
9 Points
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Post by iamstokie on Mar 9, 2023 15:33:04 GMT
Yet another reason why xg is shite No it proves what we've all been saying - if we had a forward who could score 15 or more goals we'd have won far more games and be a lot higher in the table. Take Millwall and Blackpool, two games we could have won if we'd taken our chances which is basically what xG is. No it doesn’t 🙄 |
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Post by skip on Mar 9, 2023 15:55:48 GMT
9 (nine)
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 9, 2023 18:42:23 GMT
No it proves what we've all been saying - if we had a forward who could score 15 or more goals we'd have won far more games and be a lot higher in the table. Take Millwall and Blackpool, two games we could have won if we'd taken our chances which is basically what xG is. No it doesn’t 🙄 Could you explain what you think xG is then please. As far as I am concerned it stands for expected goals which is based on the chances a team gets and how often those chances are scored over time. As the sample period grows the accuracy of xG improves. |
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Post by iamstokie on Mar 9, 2023 18:47:26 GMT
Could you explain what you think xG is then please. As far as I am concerned it stands for expected goals which is based on the chances, a team gets and how often those chances are scored over time. As the sample period grows the accuracy of xG improves. The only goals that count are the ones on the score board at the end of a match , all the other shite is irrelevant |
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Post by march4 on Mar 9, 2023 18:48:25 GMT
Could you explain what you think xG is then please. As far as I am concerned it stands for expected goals which is based on the chances, a team gets and how often those chances are scored over time. As the sample period grows the accuracy of xG improves. The only goals that count are the ones on the score board at the end of a match , all the other shite is irrelevant So are goals. |
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Post by onepara on Mar 9, 2023 19:48:25 GMT
I actually think we’ll lose all 3. We might pick up something tomorrow, but don’t think we will against Middlesbrough or Norwich. You think we'll lose all 3, but may pick up something tomorrow? Mixed thinking. |
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Post by firfuxache on Mar 9, 2023 19:59:20 GMT
I actually think we’ll lose all 3. We might pick up something tomorrow, but don’t think we will against Middlesbrough or Norwich. You think we'll lose all 3, but may pick up something tomorrow? Mixed thinking. Might as well have covered all bases and said “at the end of each match I expect us to get a result”. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 10, 2023 0:29:02 GMT
Could you explain what you think xG is then please. As far as I am concerned it stands for expected goals which is based on the chances, a team gets and how often those chances are scored over time. As the sample period grows the accuracy of xG improves. The only goals that count are the ones on the score board at the end of a match , all the other shite is irrelevant Agree that the only ones that go in the net count but xG gives a clear picture of how well your forwards are doing compared to how they should be doing. VA team may only be scoring a few goals because they are not making many chances or because their forwards are not taking the chances that the team are creating. Our high xG indicates that our forwards are not scoring when they should which I don't think many people on here disagree with when you read their thoughts on Delap, Gayle, Brown and Campbell. Hence the theory that if our forwards were performing well we would be in the playoffs. |
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