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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Mar 7, 2023 18:27:04 GMT
Watford have done it again new manager Chris Wilder.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Mar 7, 2023 18:33:36 GMT
It's been a while...
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Post by Billy the kid on Mar 7, 2023 18:36:09 GMT
Short term contract - you can say that again.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 7, 2023 18:40:36 GMT
Short term contract - you can say that again. Wilder will be lucky to see out his contract
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Post by scfc75 on Mar 7, 2023 18:41:26 GMT
Short term contract - you can say that again. Wilder will be lucky to see out his contract …or the week…
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Post by a on Mar 7, 2023 18:44:27 GMT
Maybe this changing manager every 3-4 months isn’t all it’s cracked up to be?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:49:40 GMT
Maybe this changing manager every 3-4 months isn’t all it’s cracked up to be? I know someone who will argue with you all night on that one mate 😉
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Post by a on Mar 7, 2023 18:55:31 GMT
Maybe this changing manager every 3-4 months isn’t all it’s cracked up to be? I know someone who will argue with you all night on that one mate 😉 Same guy that will argue with anyone on anything bud? 😂 I don’t doubt it
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 7, 2023 18:58:27 GMT
Maybe this changing manager every 3-4 months isn’t all it’s cracked up to be? I know someone who will argue with you all night on that one mate 😉 It’s a good business model etc etc……
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Post by Veritas on Mar 7, 2023 19:09:03 GMT
12th manager in less than 5 seasons!!
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Post by Roger Everyone on Mar 7, 2023 19:18:54 GMT
Chris Wilder, about as exciting as appointing Roy Hodgson..
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Post by werrington on Mar 7, 2023 19:43:59 GMT
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 7, 2023 20:46:42 GMT
12th manager in less than 5 seasons!! And during those 5 seasons they have outperformed us, got relegated got promoted and reached the FA Cup final. Go figure
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Mar 8, 2023 0:37:16 GMT
They are first team coaches at Watford, very different to a manager.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 8, 2023 2:44:45 GMT
That's absolutely crazy mate. Can't believe West Ham have only had that many managers but for Watford to have had that many in just over ten years is bloody crackers.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 8, 2023 3:33:14 GMT
12th manager in less than 5 seconds !! 😂😂😂 Wilder must be pissing imself!
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Post by stokie1 on Mar 8, 2023 3:35:37 GMT
12th manager in less than 5 seconds !! 😂😂😂 Wilder must be pissing imself! They’ll get promotion now. That’s my prediction.
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Post by s7oke on Mar 8, 2023 5:15:38 GMT
12th manager in less than 5 seconds !! 😂😂😂 Wilder must be pissing imself! Didn’t realise he was incontinent Must be all the severance pay running through him
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Post by franklin on Mar 8, 2023 7:41:44 GMT
That's absolutely crazy mate. Can't believe West Ham have only had that many managers but for Watford to have had that many in just over ten years is bloody crackers. They haven't but its not many more in the 20s.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 8, 2023 8:20:35 GMT
12th manager in less than 5 seasons!! And during those 5 seasons they have outperformed us, got relegated got promoted and reached the FA Cup final. Go figure After reaching the cup final in 2019, and achieving their highest ever Premier League points tally, Watford sacked their manager after 4 games of the new season. Since they have now had 10 managers in less than 4 seasons and while they have been promoted, and immediately relegated, are you seriously proposing that as a way you would like to see SCFC run?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 8, 2023 8:34:56 GMT
And during those 5 seasons they have outperformed us, got relegated got promoted and reached the FA Cup final. Go figure After reaching the cup final in 2019, and achieving their highest ever Premier League points tally, Watford sacked their manager after 4 games of the new season. Since they have now had 10 managers in less than 4 seasons and while they have been promoted, and immediately relegated, are you seriously proposing that as a way you would like to see SCFC run? It’s an extreme example of a system that has shown itself to be successful in both England and Europe. A system in which the manager/head coach is just an interchangeable employee at a club with it’s own vision not one that takes on the vision and ethos of the incumbent manager/head coach. Personally I’d take that everyday.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 8, 2023 8:36:25 GMT
After reaching the cup final in 2019, and achieving their highest ever Premier League points tally, Watford sacked their manager after 4 games of the new season. Since they have now had 10 managers in less than 4 seasons and while they have been promoted, and immediately relegated, are you seriously proposing that as a way you would like to see SCFC run? It’s an extreme example of a system that has shown itself to be successful in both England and Europe. A system in which the manager/head coach is just an interchangeable employee at a club with it’s own vision not one that takes on the vision and ethos of the incumbent manager/head coach. Personally I’d take that everyday. Sack a cup finalist manager after 4 games!!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 8, 2023 8:45:02 GMT
It’s an extreme example of a system that has shown itself to be successful in both England and Europe. A system in which the manager/head coach is just an interchangeable employee at a club with it’s own vision not one that takes on the vision and ethos of the incumbent manager/head coach. Personally I’d take that everyday. Sack a cup finalist manager after 4 games!! What is it about the words “extreme example” you don’t understand? Chelsea under Abramovic is a slightly less extreme example of the same philosophy but it was highly successful so that wouldn’t suit the argument against it. It’s a far more logical set up than the god manager set up we employ.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 8, 2023 8:59:42 GMT
Sack a cup finalist manager after 4 games!! What is it about the words “extreme example” you don’t understand? Chelsea under Abramovic is a slightly less extreme example of the same philosophy but it was highly successful so that wouldn’t suit the argument against it. It’s a far more logical set up than the god manager set up we employ. We sacked a manger after getting us promoted.
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Post by jhtstokie on Mar 8, 2023 9:08:27 GMT
Christ, absolutely staggering when you look at it like that😂
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 8, 2023 9:12:37 GMT
It’s an extreme example of a system that has shown itself to be successful in both England and Europe. A system in which the manager/head coach is just an interchangeable employee at a club with it’s own vision not one that takes on the vision and ethos of the incumbent manager/head coach. Personally I’d take that everyday. Sack a cup finalist manager after 4 games!! What like we sacked a promotion winning manager after 0 games? The timing of a decision can be exposed as folly in hindsight in any set up. See sacking MON after 5 games a clubs reservations about an employee can’t rationally manifest themselves over such a short period, so the doubt obviously existed beforehand. If the doubt exists it should be acted upon at a strategic point 4,5,6 games into a new season seems like failure to act on that doubt to me and makes the Gudjon example seem well planned, considered and acted upon appropriately. The fiasco that followed doesn’t change that.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 8, 2023 9:22:30 GMT
What is it about the words “extreme example” you don’t understand? Chelsea under Abramovic is a slightly less extreme example of the same philosophy but it was highly successful so that wouldn’t suit the argument against it. It’s a far more logical set up than the god manager set up we employ. We sacked a manger after getting us promoted. Because given our stature, budget and squad in comparison to the level squeezing through the play offs was considered to be below expected level of performance.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 8, 2023 11:00:25 GMT
That's absolutely crazy mate. Can't believe West Ham have only had that many managers but for Watford to have had that many in just over ten years is bloody crackers. They haven't but its not many more in the 20s. Cheers mate. I thought that seemed awfully low for their entire history though I suppose if some have stayed in the job for ten-fifteen years then quite easily doable really. EDIT. Just checked and their first five managers did a total of 87 seasons so that explains it really 👍
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Post by franklin on Mar 8, 2023 11:23:12 GMT
They haven't but its not many more in the 20s. Cheers mate. I thought that seemed awfully low for their entire history though I suppose if some have stayed in the job for ten-fifteen years then quite easily doable really. EDIT. Just checked and their first five managers did a total of 87 seasons so that explains it really 👍 I've just fact checked myself and it actually might be right the likes of Trevor Brooking is listed twice but he was caretaker for those two occasions as was Kevin Keen I think so 18 might be correct as far as "permanent" managers go which is incredible.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 8, 2023 11:27:25 GMT
Cheers mate. I thought that seemed awfully low for their entire history though I suppose if some have stayed in the job for ten-fifteen years then quite easily doable really. EDIT. Just checked and their first five managers did a total of 87 seasons so that explains it really 👍 I've just fact checked myself and it actually might be right the likes of Trevor Brooking is listed twice but he was caretaker for those two occasions as was Kevin Keen I think so 18 might be correct as far as "permanent" managers go which is incredible. It is mate. I think the first five managers make up the bulk of their history with the managers since then only lasting two or three seasons bar Redknapp who I think was seven seasons. Quite amazing really.
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