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Post by ChesterStokie on Feb 18, 2023 23:35:37 GMT
Wouldn't that then be a 1 year contract? Not necessarily. It could be a 2 year contract to spread out his wages with a clause after 12 months to say that the club and player could then go their separate ways with some kind of payment no doubt involved. I believe Man Utd do something similar when they offer 5 year deals where there is some kind of clause that players can leave after 4 if it's mutually beneficial. I'm clutching at straws probably....... At the risk of repeating myself, it depends on what Gayle’s actual contract actually says.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 23:52:04 GMT
has overtaken berahino as the worst striker ever to play for stoke city
if he plays , we play with ten men
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 23:55:44 GMT
imagine if you woke up on monday and read that the club had agreed a fee to terminate his contract
there wouldn't be anyone who would miss him
there would be a lot of happy stokies
but he wouldn't be missed by anyone
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 19, 2023 0:06:55 GMT
Wouldn't that then be a 1 year contract? It depends what the contract says. If I'm playing wank I can complete my contract to the satisfaction of my financial and personal satisfaction. If I'm scoring more than 15 goals at season end I may negotiate a new two year contract with my employers.
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 19, 2023 0:09:03 GMT
I think his overall play is good - his finishing has been poor. I was sat in the Blackpool end behind the goal today and I am not quite sure how he managed to get that one over the bar - apart from his finishing I thought he did reasonably well today.
The finishing/final ball from the entire team today bordered on bizarre - it went beyond the usual amount of poor we are used to - and reached another level that I didn't think a professional football team could achieve
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Post by robscfc on Feb 19, 2023 0:18:27 GMT
I think his overall play is good - his finishing has been poor. I was sat in the Blackpool end behind the goal today and I am not quite sure how he managed to get that one over the bar - apart from his finishing I thought he did reasonably well today. The finishing/final ball from the entire team today bordered on bizarre - it went beyond the usual amount of poor we are used to - and reached another level that I didn't think a professional football team could achieve A couple of his first touches today ended up at least 10 yards away from him. He was an absolute disaster.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 19, 2023 1:44:20 GMT
John Tudor is widely thought to be one of the worst signings in Stoke history and he scored 3 goals in 30 appearances
Gayle is on 1 in 25.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 19, 2023 1:47:02 GMT
John Tudor is widely thought to be one of the worst signings in Stoke history and he scored 3 goals in 30 appearances Gayle is on 1 in 25. But I had people on here telling me he was actually on 4 because he had 4 disallowed. Them were the days.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 19, 2023 4:27:49 GMT
Just watched the highlights, shocking miss.
He's got another year on his contract, right? 🤐
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Post by s7oke on Feb 19, 2023 6:27:03 GMT
Even when he hasn’t looked like scoring I’ve still appreciated his work ethic and think he’s done good things build up wise. Today more than anything has just cemented what a shit signing he’s been though, he just wasn’t what we needed at all. All of our strikers are dogshit though. Campbell and Brown have spent several seasons together now and have got fuck all understanding of how to play with each other. All of them would benefit with a target man, which we haven’t inexplicably haven’t signed. This 100% We need a target man someone to have is back to goal and hold the ball up Someone to aim for rather than trying to run the ball all the time Someone for whichever striker plays to feed off and occupy defenders Someone who takes the pressure off the midfield We need lots of players in the summer but I’m afraid the big forward we need will define the team that AN picks so one of the most important
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Post by harryh157 on Feb 19, 2023 8:28:48 GMT
Just watched the highlights, shocking miss. He's got another year on his contract, right? 🤐 I like Gayle but if he keeps missing chances like that (and he does) you can't keep picking him
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Post by stokie63 on Feb 19, 2023 8:36:34 GMT
I must admit when we signed him I was buzzing but I've got to be honest he's useless in front of goal don't no why if it's him or tactics enthusiasm don't no but its time to take him out the firing line and play one of the young lads who won't be any worse.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 19, 2023 8:44:05 GMT
The defence of him by far too many of our fans shows how this whole shit show at our club has happened. He’s been shit from the start but people have defended him quite strongly from the get go. He scores one off his back and you have a good number saying he’ll get 10. It’s been clear for years his legs have gone and nothing he’s done has shown anything else. Why are the standards so low? Why do fans accept shite like him? I hate to admit it, but you were right and sussed him out earlier than most. Enjoy the moment Sussed him out? He hasn't scored for 2 years! You didn't need to be Sherlock Holmes to work out he was likely to be wank.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 19, 2023 8:46:06 GMT
I hate to admit it, but you were right and sussed him out earlier than most. Enjoy the moment Sussed him out? He hasn't scored for 2 years! You didn't need to be Sherlock Holmes to work out he was likely to be wank. Yeah you didn’t need to suss anything out 😂
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Post by greyface on Feb 19, 2023 8:49:16 GMT
Even when he hasn’t looked like scoring I’ve still appreciated his work ethic and think he’s done good things build up wise. Today more than anything has just cemented what a shit signing he’s been though, he just wasn’t what we needed at all. All of our strikers are dogshit though. Campbell and Brown have spent several seasons together now and have got fuck all understanding of how to play with each other. All of them would benefit with a target man, which we haven’t inexplicably haven’t signed. This 100% We need a target man someone to have is back to goal and hold the ball up Someone to aim for rather than trying to run the ball all the time Someone for whichever striker plays to feed off and occupy defenders Someone who takes the pressure off the midfield We need lots of players in the summer but I’m afraid the big forward we need will define the team that AN picks so one of the most important Who? Who is the target man? 20 teams in this league need the same.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 19, 2023 8:52:09 GMT
This 100% We need a target man someone to have is back to goal and hold the ball up Someone to aim for rather than trying to run the ball all the time Someone for whichever striker plays to feed off and occupy defenders Someone who takes the pressure off the midfield We need lots of players in the summer but I’m afraid the big forward we need will define the team that AN picks so one of the most important Who? Who is the target man? 20 teams in this league need the same. I love posts like this. That make it sound like a football club that will have a double figures amount of people working on recruitment can’t find a target man in the whole world of football.
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Post by raythesailor on Feb 19, 2023 8:58:44 GMT
Been saying it for some time. He is just tacking up a space on the team sheet that could be taken by numerous others. The entire season has been wasted trying to play Gayle, Campbell and Delap. All of whom have been poor and necessitated Brown playing not in his best suited position. Sorry Dwight but it just hasn’t worked.
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Post by greyface on Feb 19, 2023 8:59:39 GMT
Who? Who is the target man? 20 teams in this league need the same. I love posts like this. That make it sound like a football club that will have a double figures amount of people working on recruitment can’t find a target man in the whole world of football. But there are 20 teams in this league that need the same. None of them have found it because the target man / men they need come with a price tag none of them can afford. The target man everyone wanted has scored 4 goals all season for a Watford team that had more money to spend than us and have only scored 2 more goals than us all season.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 19, 2023 9:02:55 GMT
I don’t think you can blame the whole mess on him though.
Like the whole team he’s low on confidence.
If he’d started well and had a genuine target man alongside him he’d have done a lot better. when a strikers on a lean spell along with keeper it’s the one position more than any other you can’t hide.
Some of this has to be on AN and his tactics and the inept transfer team who failed to sign key players in the last 2 windows.
I’m not sure what’s happened to AN but I expected him to be so much better tactically than he is.
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 19, 2023 9:40:50 GMT
I don’t think you can blame the whole mess on him though. Like the whole team he’s low on confidence. If he’d started well and had a genuine target man alongside him he’d have done a lot better. when a strikers on a lean spell along with keeper it’s the one position more than any other you can’t hide. Some of this has to be on AN and his tactics and the inept transfer team who failed to sign key players in the last 2 windows. I’m not sure what’s happened to AN but I expected him to be so much better tactically than he is. Yes the recruitment was appalling in the window. Focussing on the game yesterday, other than not giving Lowe more time on the pitch, yesterday AN had a system where we dominated the game in terms of possession, shots and created lots of chances. It’s down to the team to be clinical and convert these chances. Our forwards squandered so many yesterday, it was genuinely embarrassing! Some of the lowest quality forwards I have ever seen at Stoke! Gayle and Campbell need dropping. He should start with Lowe and Tezgel. They couldn’t do any worse!
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Post by s7oke on Feb 19, 2023 9:43:43 GMT
This 100% We need a target man someone to have is back to goal and hold the ball up Someone to aim for rather than trying to run the ball all the time Someone for whichever striker plays to feed off and occupy defenders Someone who takes the pressure off the midfield We need lots of players in the summer but I’m afraid the big forward we need will define the team that AN picks so one of the most important Who? Who is the target man? 20 teams in this league need the same. And !!! That’s what the manager is paid to do That’s why he scouts players So how would I know who ?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 19, 2023 9:44:03 GMT
I don’t think you can blame the whole mess on him though. Like the whole team he’s low on confidence. If he’d started well and had a genuine target man alongside him he’d have done a lot better. when a strikers on a lean spell along with keeper it’s the one position more than any other you can’t hide. Some of this has to be on AN and his tactics and the inept transfer team who failed to sign key players in the last 2 windows. I’m not sure what’s happened to AN but I expected him to be so much better tactically than he is. I’m not sure he would Cobs. He’s finished. His legs no longer work and his reactions have died. It was fairly obvious after 3 games that whilst he could still play his days as a regular goalscorer were gone.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 19, 2023 9:45:06 GMT
I don’t think you can blame the whole mess on him though. Like the whole team he’s low on confidence. If he’d started well and had a genuine target man alongside him he’d have done a lot better. when a strikers on a lean spell along with keeper it’s the one position more than any other you can’t hide. Some of this has to be on AN and his tactics and the inept transfer team who failed to sign key players in the last 2 windows. I’m not sure what’s happened to AN but I expected him to be so much better tactically than he is. Yes the recruitment was appalling in the window. Focussing on the game yesterday, other than not giving Lowe more time on the pitch, yesterday AN had a system where we dominated the game in terms of possession, shots and created lots of chances. It’s down to the team to be clinical and convert these chances. Our forwards squandered so many yesterday, it was genuinely embarrassing! Some of the lowest quality forwards I have ever seen at Stoke! Gayle and Campbell need dropping. He should start with Lowe and Tezgel. They couldn’t do any worse! Can’t disagree with starting the young lads. In relation to The Smallbone chance I don’t really remember any other proper chances in the game other than half chances from scrappy set pieces. We dominate possession but don’t have the creativity to do anything with it. Our crossing is appaling.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 19, 2023 9:46:08 GMT
I don’t think you can blame the whole mess on him though. Like the whole team he’s low on confidence. If he’d started well and had a genuine target man alongside him he’d have done a lot better. when a strikers on a lean spell along with keeper it’s the one position more than any other you can’t hide. Some of this has to be on AN and his tactics and the inept transfer team who failed to sign key players in the last 2 windows. I’m not sure what’s happened to AN but I expected him to be so much better tactically than he is. I’m not sure he would Cobs. He’s finished. His legs no longer work and his reactions have died. It was fairly obvious after 3 games that whilst he could still play his days as a regular goalscorer were gone. He’s scored 6 goals in 4 seasons. 5 in 3 prior to joining us. It didn’t need 3 games here to know that
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 19, 2023 9:47:06 GMT
I don’t think you can blame the whole mess on him though. Like the whole team he’s low on confidence. If he’d started well and had a genuine target man alongside him he’d have done a lot better. when a strikers on a lean spell along with keeper it’s the one position more than any other you can’t hide. Some of this has to be on AN and his tactics and the inept transfer team who failed to sign key players in the last 2 windows. I’m not sure what’s happened to AN but I expected him to be so much better tactically than he is. I’m not sure he would Cobs. He’s finished. His legs no longer work and his reactions have died. It was fairly obvious after 3 games that whilst he could still play his days as a regular goalscorer were gone. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking. I really want it to work as Ive always rated him and he’s far from being hopeless. I was hoping the Reading game might kick him on.
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Post by greyface on Feb 19, 2023 9:56:37 GMT
Who? Who is the target man? 20 teams in this league need the same. And !!! That’s what the manager is paid to do That’s why he scouts players So how would I know who ? Just lots of people getting mad demanding a target man in our price range that as far as I can see doesn’t exist, and if he did there would be 20 other teams fighting over him which pushes the price up. Lucas Joao? Andy Carroll? Keinan Davis? Jordan Hugill? Ashley Barnes? Lucas Jutkiewitscz? Chris Martin? Troy Deeney? Martin Waghorn? Most of these would not have been good enough for most people’s idea of a target man, or are not available, or if they were would have been too expensive (imagine Ashley Barnes would have come with Dwight Gayle sized contract) Anyone with anything about them gets snapped up by clubs at a higher level. Even Man Utd have just ended up with a bloody Burnley striker who was on loan in Turkey. Says it all.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 19, 2023 10:07:46 GMT
I’m not sure he would Cobs. He’s finished. His legs no longer work and his reactions have died. It was fairly obvious after 3 games that whilst he could still play his days as a regular goalscorer were gone. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking. I really want it to work as Ive always rated him and he’s far from being hopeless. I was hoping the Reading game might kick him on. 6 goals in 4 seasons 1 in 25 games with us Is pretty hopeless.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Feb 19, 2023 10:35:24 GMT
We have to young strikers that need playing. All this they are ready stuff is nonsense.
Get them on the field and playing at least half a match..
AN is a clueless cockwomble.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Feb 19, 2023 11:16:50 GMT
Best days are behind him
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 11:39:05 GMT
This 100% We need a target man someone to have is back to goal and hold the ball up Someone to aim for rather than trying to run the ball all the time Someone for whichever striker plays to feed off and occupy defenders Someone who takes the pressure off the midfield We need lots of players in the summer but I’m afraid the big forward we need will define the team that AN picks so one of the most important Who? Who is the target man? 20 teams in this league need the same. sheffield united have oli mcburnie luton have two of them , both big fast and strong blackburn bereton diaz , though he tends to make runs , rather than go round battering defenders reading have andy carroll , you might laugh , but you should see reading without andy carroll , they are absolutely shocking , with him they get a decent amount of points. I am not buying that andy carroll is even more useless than dwight gayle any of those would be a massive upgrade on dwight gayle
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