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Post by thischarmingmanc on Mar 21, 2023 17:32:29 GMT
No chance mate shes at mine More chance of Lucy Verasamy knocking on my door in stockings and heels😆
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Post by caine on Mar 21, 2023 17:52:07 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 21, 2023 18:13:15 GMT
If those are the terms of his extension, I can't see United taking that up. £62k p/week is a lot to pay someone who's not likely to get much time on the pitch save for the odd Carabao Cup game here and there. If they do extend, it would more likely be with a view to selling but then they are gambling ona team paying good money for someone with a chequered injury record. If United let him go, then surely no chance of any club paying him anything close to £42k p/week. He may sign with us on a lower wage as long as there's something in his contract that allows him to speak with Premier League clubs if they come sniffing in the winter transfer window, but we can't risk losing a first-choice CB on those terms if we're in a decent position in the league. We just have to offer as much as a wider, yet sensible FFP boundary will allow us to, albeit heavily based on appearances and/or promotion.
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Post by andystokey on Mar 21, 2023 18:15:36 GMT
It's a gamble for them. They may just decide not to take the 12 months then he's looking for a club. Either way if that's true and they extend I can't see him at our place.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 21, 2023 19:44:50 GMT
Fantastic player but with his injury record, it would be a massive gamble to use a significant chunk of our budget on him. We are banking on him playing more than half of his total career appearances to date in one season.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 21, 2023 19:55:47 GMT
They could both come to an agreement to extend his contract for less money and or a longer contract. But, what would they want to take a chance on him for?
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Post by pushon on Mar 21, 2023 20:22:20 GMT
They could both come to an agreement to extend his contract for less money and or a longer contract. But, what would they want to take a chance on him for? I'd think that the new owner(s) would need to agree to this.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 21, 2023 22:31:50 GMT
Don’t forget no fee so thats a potential wage subsidy
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 21, 2023 22:59:41 GMT
Super player and already played at least twice as much as I thought he would.
Worth a risk but I would structure some pay as you play element into any deal.
I imagine Man Utd will offer him a contract and then hopefully loan him out again till he’s proved he can play on a regular basis.
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Post by mcw on Mar 22, 2023 16:53:27 GMT
Don’t forget no fee so thats a potential wage subsidy If we had to match his £42K a week current package that is a non-starter as it would cause all sorts of ructions when considering what other players are on per week. Feasibly could pay him a big signing on fee, so if £25K a week was the limit you were working to in relation to upper pay scale then on a 3 year deal we would have to pay him £2.6M. The question is whether paying somebody such a huge signing on fee is a good idea..
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 22, 2023 17:16:59 GMT
We simply can't pay that much per week and we shouldn't. Great player potentially at this level but obvious risks over his fitness and durability. Paying that level of money for him is Rowett-esque. We need to back the manager but we also need to be sensible and ensure, absolutely ensure that we have learned our lessons from the past.
Being brutally honest - you shouldn't need to break the bank at this level for players to fit into a unit and to be very competitive at the top end of this league - certainly post COVID. If we can get him on a cut price deal and within our recent, sensible budget then we should go for it.
I have a huge, huge fear about leaving the keys to the till in the hands of another manager and his mate.
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Post by pzstokie on Mar 22, 2023 17:28:00 GMT
How about this,utd give him a new contract then we sign him on a season long loan, we get promoted and if he's still fit sign him for a few million
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 22, 2023 19:58:17 GMT
Sounds like he made an impression at 'boro!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 22, 2023 21:00:57 GMT
There could be a few Premier league clubs willing to take a gamble on him.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 22, 2023 21:06:00 GMT
How about this,utd give him a new contract then we sign him on a season long loan, we get promoted and if he's still fit sign him for a few million This is what I suggested. It’d be good for him, Man United and us. So long as he’s happy to do it. Who knows what he thinks about the club. If he sees us a positive step in his career who knows. I know I’d like to have the buffer of a huge pay rise at my parent club and also be at the heart of a promotion push with a loan club.
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 22, 2023 21:08:03 GMT
How about this,utd give him a new contract then we sign him on a season long loan, we get promoted and if he's still fit sign him for a few million This is what I suggested. It’d be good for him, Man United and us. So long as he’s happy to do it. Who knows what he thinks about the club. If he sees us a positive step in his career who knows. I know I’d like to have the buffer of a huge pay rise at my parent club and also be at the heart of a promotion push with a loan club. Yeah same think it might be the most likely scenario too. As you say simply it works for everyone.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 22, 2023 22:26:18 GMT
Or, he goes on loan in the Prem!
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 22, 2023 22:45:59 GMT
This is what I suggested. It’d be good for him, Man United and us. So long as he’s happy to do it. Who knows what he thinks about the club. If he sees us a positive step in his career who knows. I know I’d like to have the buffer of a huge pay rise at my parent club and also be at the heart of a promotion push with a loan club. Yeah same think it might be the most likely scenario too. As you say simply it works for everyone. What do united get out of that? Seems too good for us...
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 23, 2023 7:58:41 GMT
Yeah same think it might be the most likely scenario too. As you say simply it works for everyone. What do united get out of that? Seems too good for us... A decent loan from us at a guess.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 23, 2023 8:35:22 GMT
Yeah same think it might be the most likely scenario too. As you say simply it works for everyone. What do united get out of that? Seems too good for us... My thoughts too. If, as reported above, he signs a new deal that'll be on £62k per week. Who is going to fund the even bigger gap between what we can afford and what he'll be paid?
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 23, 2023 10:30:35 GMT
What do united get out of that? Seems too good for us... A decent loan from us at a guess. But the extension option is only for 12 months so they won't extend to loan out. I don't think they'll bother extending as no one is going to buy such an injury risk and even fit he's unlikely to break into the Utd team.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 23, 2023 10:34:47 GMT
He will get a promoted championship club at the minimum if he's to go on a free transfer this summer. Not a chance he comes back permanently.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 23, 2023 10:35:25 GMT
If he stays fit until the end of the season and he was available and in our price range, would we offer him a 3/4 year contract?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 23, 2023 10:39:20 GMT
Don’t forget no fee so thats a potential wage subsidy If we had to match his £42K a week current package that is a non-starter as it would cause all sorts of ructions when considering what other players are on per week. Feasibly could pay him a big signing on fee, so if £25K a week was the limit you were working to in relation to upper pay scale then on a 3 year deal we would have to pay him £2.6M. The question is whether paying somebody such a huge signing on fee is a good idea.. That's a way of doing it, then in theory you're signing him for 2.6m but as a free agent he'd expect a decent signing on fee too so it turns out to be a 5m transfer at the very top end of the club's wage bill for a player who is extremely injury prone. Would it be worth the risk.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 23, 2023 14:47:50 GMT
What do united get out of that? Seems too good for us... A decent loan from us at a guess. With the contract only running the year I don't see it but maybe they'd negotiate a longer one and give him a year with us? From what I've seen he's too good for the championship so don't want to get my hopes too high...
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 23, 2023 16:03:35 GMT
Don’t forget no fee so thats a potential wage subsidy If we had to match his £42K a week current package that is a non-starter as it would cause all sorts of ructions when considering what other players are on per week. Feasibly could pay him a big signing on fee, so if £25K a week was the limit you were working to in relation to upper pay scale then on a 3 year deal we would have to pay him £2.6M. The question is whether paying somebody such a huge signing on fee is a good idea.. Agreed. Let’s not forget, he’s stayed fit for a couple of games. This may all be mute in the next match. He was out for 12 months. That’s a huge risk to take on a player, especially your most expensive player. We are just getting through this with Powell after all.
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