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Post by independent on Jul 18, 2023 21:24:16 GMT
I know this is Stoke, but would they have dicarded Sarkic at the drop of a hat if they werent fairly confident of getting someone else (whether that be Travis, Iverson or whoever) It certainly gives Travers the opportunity to do the same to Stoke and get himself a pay rise.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 21:26:23 GMT
If the report is true,I'm sure the club's behaviour will be a great help to us when approaching other possible signings. It won't be a problem. Not like we're the first club to have done it. Every club has done it at some stage. It won't effect other signings
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 18, 2023 21:28:29 GMT
So let me get this right - you want the freedom to have a pop at the club and deny others the right to point out that your reasoning on the matter doesn't make sense because you don't like being criticized for having a pop at the club for no good reason? Good luck with that. This is the last time I will reply to you, you are not the sole arbiter of what is right or wrong, even if you think you are. Yet again you are changing your story to suit your view. I think if the club had doubts about Sarkic and it seems it did we shouldn’t have pursued him as first choice, that is where the process is wrong in my opinion, nothing to do with medicals etc and I have said that all along. If that’s a pop at the club for no good reason we’ll I’m gobsmacked, you seem to be hypersensitive to any criticism of the club no matter how slight, I’m sure the club can take it though. You can criticise you like but get your story right and consistent and my reasoning is fine thank you, I’ve made it quite plain and simple for you. I’m not denying others (which I take it means just you) to disagree and criticise me on the thread. You’ve made your point, I don’t agree with it but that’s life. And I'm the one who is hypersensitive?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 18, 2023 21:32:43 GMT
Why do people get all pre-menstural over this stuff. It's not worth getting het up over.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 18, 2023 21:40:49 GMT
Why do people get all pre-menstural over this stuff. It's not worth getting het up over. It’s fucking bonkers mate. Life is far too short to get so worked up over something completely out of your control.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 18, 2023 21:51:16 GMT
We’ll probably never know what’s really gone on. I suspect he was looking for a little more than we were comfortable with and we had second thoughts.
I didn’t think he looked that good and am not too upset to see the deal fall through.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Jul 18, 2023 21:55:26 GMT
Yes it looks like personal terms. Surprising really as we would have known his current wage and his expectations. Unless of course either him or us have tried to change things last minute. It's the Excuse and Star! They are about as reliable and trustworthy as the Sentinel (maybe even less so). To be fair a wolves supporting mate who has family working at the club said it was down to not agreeing terms when I messaged saying failed medical at 2.30 this afternoon.
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Post by andystokey on Jul 18, 2023 22:20:27 GMT
Let's hope this has the same outcome as when Martin Fulop and Scott Carson deals fell through. My first thought also, we were nailed on to sign Fulop then got Sorenson and it was ultimately the right call.
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Post by stokemark on Jul 18, 2023 23:02:12 GMT
If you can't get a deal for a player that we agreed a fee for and clearly knew what his salary expectations were after 4 months on loan over the line then what can you ?
The club remains short on nouse, poor on leadership and highly dependant on a manager who could quite easily get fired 2/3 months into the season due to a poor start that would be more than likely the fault of him and the quality of back room Staff to support him.
Zero lessons appear to have been learnt - wank
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 18, 2023 23:18:06 GMT
Yes it looks like personal terms. Surprising really as we would have known his current wage and his expectations. Unless of course either him or us have tried to change things last minute. He agreed personal terms last week and was due in for medical this week when returned from holiday. The medical didn't happen and the club pulled out. Yeah, I just don’t think Sarkic would have been that naïve to think he could try and wrangle more money out of us given his injury record. Perhaps we should have at least put him through the medical. If he passed, then at least it gives us something to think about but to be honest, if Travers is up for grabs then sadly for Sarkic, it’s a no brainer. I’m sure he’ll get a club, he’s a good keeper but it’s simply a case of going for the girl with the biggest tits.
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Post by ceejays on Jul 18, 2023 23:55:28 GMT
It’s quite simple . They couldn’t get insurance for the guy
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 19, 2023 0:54:08 GMT
Nice guesswork. I doubt that even Stoke are stupid enough to cancel a transfer without being close on another. The medical makes most sense to me as long as we are all guessing without any official statement.
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 19, 2023 6:56:29 GMT
It’s quite simple . They couldn’t get insurance for the guy If that’s true, then we’ll have no chance with Stewart. 🤞
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jul 19, 2023 10:19:45 GMT
It’s quite simple . They couldn’t get insurance for the guy If that's the case then players who have had injuries in the past would never sign for clubs so I'm calling bullshit on this one, unless you've got actual proof? (which I doubt)
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Post by beats88 on Jul 19, 2023 10:24:55 GMT
It’s quite simple . They couldn’t get insurance for the guy If that's the case then players who have had injuries in the past would never sign for clubs so I'm calling bullshit on this one, unless you've got actual proof? (which I doubt) Nah, I'm not having that. Players have been insured after double compound fractures. I think this is simply a break down over terms. On who's part or if deliberate I don't know but I think its as simple as that.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 19, 2023 10:31:39 GMT
Whatever injury Sarkic has, maybe it's got worse since he was here on loan and not worth the risk.
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Post by TinkerT on Jul 19, 2023 11:44:25 GMT
It’s quite simple . They couldn’t get insurance for the guy Not true
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Post by mr on Jul 19, 2023 11:54:39 GMT
If you can't get a deal for a player that we agreed a fee for and clearly knew what his salary expectations were after 4 months on loan over the line then what can you ? The club remains short on nouse, poor on leadership and highly dependant on a manager who could quite easily get fired 2/3 months into the season due to a poor start that would be more than likely the fault of him and the quality of back room Staff to support him. Zero lessons appear to have been learnt - wank Or, Travers was number one target but not available on a permanent. Gets made available by Bournemouth and we go to our first choice despite agreeing fees and terms with Sarkic - Ruthless
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Post by pb1863 on Jul 19, 2023 12:18:49 GMT
I’m sure it’s happened in reverse once or twice before when a player agrees to terms and then gets a better offer at the last minute and off he goes. Stuff happens and we move on
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Post by beats88 on Jul 19, 2023 12:50:12 GMT
If you can't get a deal for a player that we agreed a fee for and clearly knew what his salary expectations were after 4 months on loan over the line then what can you ? The club remains short on nouse, poor on leadership and highly dependant on a manager who could quite easily get fired 2/3 months into the season due to a poor start that would be more than likely the fault of him and the quality of back room Staff to support him. Zero lessons appear to have been learnt - wank Or, Travers was number one target but not available on a permanent. Gets made available by Bournemouth and we go to our first choice despite agreeing fees and terms with Sarkic - Ruthless If that turns out to be the case then fair play to them. Why shouldn't we get our first choice.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 19, 2023 13:03:03 GMT
If you can't get a deal for a player that we agreed a fee for and clearly knew what his salary expectations were after 4 months on loan over the line then what can you ? The club remains short on nouse, poor on leadership and highly dependant on a manager who could quite easily get fired 2/3 months into the season due to a poor start that would be more than likely the fault of him and the quality of back room Staff to support him. Zero lessons appear to have been learnt - wank What don't you understand about this being the choice of the club you spunk knuckle?
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Post by dirtclod on Jul 19, 2023 14:22:46 GMT
(If this is true) Then Sarkic can just buy some mouthwash for that "sour taste" in his mouth over this deal. It's professional sports ffs and these things happen all the time. Targets change and teams move on.
Guarantee you that if another team came in at the 11th hour offering more money than us that he would have gladly "sickened" us to move on to greener pastures. Just not that worked up over this.
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Post by nsd on Jul 19, 2023 17:44:03 GMT
could it not be something like he's 'passed' the medical but they found things of concern regarding his injury history and current condition, and tried to change the terms to be more appearance based, which he has rejected? either way, like other people have said, players do this kind of thing all the time. it's expected and accepted, so if it really is just that we've got wind of a preferred target being available I have no problem with that.
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 19, 2023 17:55:19 GMT
could it not be something like he's 'passed' the medical but they found things of concern regarding his injury history and current condition, and tried to change the terms to be more appearance based, which he has rejected? either way, like other people have said, players do this kind of thing all the time. it's expected and accepted, so if it really is just that we've got wind of a preferred target being available I have no problem with that. doubt we will never know the truth , time to move on and Travers would be a great addition if we can get it over the line
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Post by luke2u on Jul 21, 2023 16:57:54 GMT
With two Wolves players in today, could the Sarkic deal be on again?
Not much new heard about Travers.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 21, 2023 17:39:29 GMT
With two Wolves players in today, could the Sarkic deal be on again? Not much new heard about Travers. No we've clearly changed our mind on him, that's usually because of a better deal on offer.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 2, 2023 8:56:09 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 2, 2023 8:58:48 GMT
Pleased for the lad. Seems like a decent sort. Still think we got the better keeper.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 2, 2023 9:01:58 GMT
I'd like to know what really happened with this one.
Travers was known to be available for loan for weeks before there was a sniff of interest from us, and looked to be heading to......Millwall.
So it wasn't as if we suddenly became aware of his availability.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Aug 2, 2023 9:07:41 GMT
I'd like to know what really happened with this one. Travers was known to be available for loan for weeks before there was a sniff of interest from us, and looked to be heading to......Millwall. So it wasn't as if we suddenly became aware of his availability. I think that the club must have got some kind of indication from Travers that he would definitely come here. We certainly would not have been the only club that were interested. To me, it looks like we were ruthless and dropped the Sarkic deal when we realised we could get someone better in.
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