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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 18, 2023 13:28:57 GMT
I think he'll still end up here even if it's on loan or a cut price deal.
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Post by lordb on Jul 18, 2023 13:29:06 GMT
Daniel Iversen could be available now. Yes but looks expensive
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Post by cymap on Jul 18, 2023 13:36:35 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 18, 2023 13:37:55 GMT
Did Demba Ba's knee ever explode? Asking for a friend. Imagine the outcry on here had Stoke signed him and he’d broken down after half a game or so. (replying for a mate 😂 ) Thing is, if he had signed for us it would have exploded
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Post by pavel on Jul 18, 2023 13:40:18 GMT
No it’s not, we knew all about his injury record so why go for him in the first place that’s the problem with the process. Sigh! You do not make a medical decision based on history. You make a medical judgement based on a medical. Sigh. Your struggling now aren’t you, the process starts with the history of the player, the good and the bad and then you make a decision to proceed or not. The argument might be more valid if we hadn’t had him on loan last season and seen his injury record in the flesh so to speak. But again you miss the point I’m not on about the validity of medicals, we should have picked up his issues in the time he spent with us especially if he was going to be a prime target, that’s the first part of the process. Sigh! We won’t agree on this, so let’s not bore the board and agree to differ.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 18, 2023 13:46:33 GMT
It's shows our medical staff are thorough in what they do. Not a bad thing at all. It'll be interesting to see if Ross Stewart does come for one of our medicals, how he goes on? 🤔
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 18, 2023 13:47:11 GMT
with us calling the deal off i wonder if it will have any affect if we are after Hoever on a loan deal
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 18, 2023 13:48:12 GMT
It was nothing to do with his medical or personal terms. The club just changed direction with the deal. Hopefully for someone much better!
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Post by beats88 on Jul 18, 2023 14:00:58 GMT
Yes it looks like personal terms. Surprising really as we would have known his current wage and his expectations. Unless of course either him or us have tried to change things last minute.
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 18, 2023 14:05:45 GMT
Don't have a major problem with Bonham. Certainly an adequate alternative so we are not in trouble without a keeper Tin hat coming out of cupboard 😭
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Post by a on Jul 18, 2023 14:06:12 GMT
Bugger
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jul 18, 2023 14:21:03 GMT
Well, this sucks.
We have been without a solid, reliable goalkeeper since relegation and I thought that Sarkic would be the perfect man to rectify this.
A pretty modest fee for a player with his prime years still ahead of him.
I do wonder why, if it is a medical issue, why it was not picked up when we signed him on loan last season?
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Post by senojbor on Jul 18, 2023 14:50:17 GMT
We should never have let Bursik go.
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Post by trotter1980 on Jul 18, 2023 14:52:24 GMT
We should never have let Bursik go. yes we should he was crap! and is now out long term with knee injury
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Post by beats88 on Jul 18, 2023 14:56:26 GMT
We should never have let Bursik go. yes we should he was crap! and is now out long term with knee injury As much as I agree he wasn't good enough, the injury wasn't pre booked. If he had stayed he may have not picked up the injury.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 18, 2023 14:56:48 GMT
We should never have let Bursik go. Why not, he was absolutely abysmal!
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Post by TinkerT on Jul 18, 2023 14:59:30 GMT
Yes it looks like personal terms. Surprising really as we would have known his current wage and his expectations. Unless of course either him or us have tried to change things last minute. He agreed personal terms last week and was due in for medical this week when returned from holiday. The medical didn't happen and the club pulled out.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 18, 2023 15:03:49 GMT
You do not make a medical decision based on history. You make a medical judgement based on a medical. Sigh. Your struggling now aren’t you, the process starts with the history of the player, the good and the bad and then you make a decision to proceed or not. The argument might be more valid if we hadn’t had him on loan last season and seen his injury record in the flesh so to speak. But again you miss the point I’m not on about the validity of medicals, we should have picked up his issues in the time he spent with us especially if he was going to be a prime target, that’s the first part of the process. Sigh! We won’t agree on this, so let’s not bore the board and agree to differ. He had a shoulder injury when at Birmingham and a quad injury at Stoke. I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware the shoulder blade is not connected to the thigh bone. I'm not surprised you want to close down this exchange - your version of the "process" is clearly based on a complete lack of knowledge of basic physiology. Sigh.
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Post by beats88 on Jul 18, 2023 15:04:23 GMT
Yes it looks like personal terms. Surprising really as we would have known his current wage and his expectations. Unless of course either him or us have tried to change things last minute. He agreed personal terms last week and was due in for medical this week when returned from holiday. The medical didn't happen and the club pulled out. He wasn't on holiday, wasn't he away with Wolves?
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Post by TinkerT on Jul 18, 2023 15:07:39 GMT
He agreed personal terms last week and was due in for medical this week when returned from holiday. The medical didn't happen and the club pulled out. He wasn't on holiday, wasn't he away with Wolves? He was last week but we agreed personal terms when he was away
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Post by trotter1980 on Jul 18, 2023 15:09:32 GMT
yes we should he was crap! and is now out long term with knee injury As much as I agree he wasn't good enough, the injury wasn't pre booked. If he had stayed he may have not picked up the injury. maybe not but defo not good enough. Always tried to make saves look better than they should of been and messed it up. Perfect example the equaliser vs notts forest away simple stand up and tip it over!
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 18, 2023 15:16:28 GMT
We should never have let Bursik go. That was certainly the right thing to do for the club. If people here say Bonham is shite I really wonder how they will describe Bursik!?
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Post by RF10 on Jul 18, 2023 15:20:05 GMT
Let's hope this has the same outcome as when Martin Fulop and Scott Carson deals fell through.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 15:25:45 GMT
I think we've done the dirty on Sarkic.
There were probably always reservations about his injuries but we thought he was the best we could get and worth the risk.
Maybe we've been alerted to the availability of Travers or Iverson and changed our minds.
If that is the case watch Travers break his leg in his first game for us.
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Jul 18, 2023 15:26:25 GMT
Yes it looks like personal terms. Surprising really as we would have known his current wage and his expectations. Unless of course either him or us have tried to change things last minute. He agreed personal terms last week and was due in for medical this week when returned from holiday. The medical didn't happen and the club pulled out. Very much sounds like a better option became available.
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Post by pavel on Jul 18, 2023 15:30:07 GMT
Your struggling now aren’t you, the process starts with the history of the player, the good and the bad and then you make a decision to proceed or not. The argument might be more valid if we hadn’t had him on loan last season and seen his injury record in the flesh so to speak. But again you miss the point I’m not on about the validity of medicals, we should have picked up his issues in the time he spent with us especially if he was going to be a prime target, that’s the first part of the process. Sigh! We won’t agree on this, so let’s not bore the board and agree to differ. He had a shoulder injury when at Birmingham and a quad injury at Stoke. I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware the shoulder blade is not connected to the thigh bone. I'm not surprised you want to close down this exchange - your version of the "process" is clearly based on a complete lack of knowledge of basic physiology. Sigh. You personalised it by condescending using the sigh, which I aimed at the club but not at any poster, that’s why I replied to your nonsense. You don’t seem to understand the basics of a process from start to finish and all you can do is insult if you don’t get your own way. Yep I want to close it down because I don’t want a thread spoilt by a continual back and forth on a minor point, it’s boring and also because I can’t be arsed continually replying to know alls like yourself who wouldn’t know debate if it dropped on their head.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 18, 2023 15:39:30 GMT
I think we've done the dirty on Sarkic. There were probably always reservations about his injuries but we thought he was the best we could get and worth the risk. Maybe we've been alerted to the availability of Travers or Iverson and changed our minds. If that is the case watch Travers break his leg in his first game for us. Sounds this way to me. I think the club has found a cheaper option in Travers and thrown Sarkic to one side.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jul 18, 2023 15:41:08 GMT
We should never have let Bursik go. Yes we should, and did
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jul 18, 2023 15:41:35 GMT
I think we've done the dirty on Sarkic. There were probably always reservations about his injuries but we thought he was the best we could get and worth the risk. Maybe we've been alerted to the availability of Travers or Iverson and changed our minds. If that is the case watch Travers break his leg in his first game for us. I think the same👍🏻
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 18, 2023 15:46:39 GMT
He had a shoulder injury when at Birmingham and a quad injury at Stoke. I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware the shoulder blade is not connected to the thigh bone. I'm not surprised you want to close down this exchange - your version of the "process" is clearly based on a complete lack of knowledge of basic physiology. Sigh. You personalised it by condescending using the sigh, which I aimed at the club but not at any poster, that’s why I replied to your nonsense. You don’t seem to understand the basics of a process from start to finish and all you can do is insult if you don’t get your own way. Yep I want to close it down because I don’t want a thread spoilt by a continual back and forth on a minor point, it’s boring and also because I can’t be arsed continually replying to know alls like yourself who wouldn’t know debate if it dropped on their head. So let me get this right - you want the freedom to have a pop at the club and deny others the right to point out that your reasoning on the matter doesn't make sense because you don't like being criticized for having a pop at the club for no good reason? Good luck with that.
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