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Fosu
Jan 16, 2023 10:24:53 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2023 10:24:53 GMT
He has the pace and skill to be a very good player. But he reaches the point at where needs to make a decision and by the time the cogs have moved he’s ran into a defender. Very frustrating player. Runs down too many blind alleyways. That's coachable though he definitely has promise. Problem is he's never had 5/6 games on the bounce in his natural position to gain any momentum or confidence which is what I think he needs......... Yeah there’s definitely something to work with for sure. Not sure why he hasn’t played more on the left.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 16, 2023 13:28:23 GMT
Runs down too many blind alleyways. That's coachable though he definitely has promise. Problem is he's never had 5/6 games on the bounce in his natural position to gain any momentum or confidence which is what I think he needs......... Yeah there’s definitely something to work with for sure. Not sure why he hasn’t played more on the left. Because we've got another manager who is intent on playing 5-3-2. He could even fit him in a 3-4-3 if he really has to have 3 centre halves on the pitch. In fact, him and Tymon down that left side could be quite useful. The way Fosu likes to cut inside would leave space for Tymon on the overlap. Similarly the same would apply to the other side of the pitch with Campbell & Clarke/Sterling.
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Fosu
Jan 16, 2023 13:31:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 13:31:55 GMT
Yeah there’s definitely something to work with for sure. Not sure why he hasn’t played more on the left. Because we've got another manager who is intent on playing 5-3-2. He could even fit him in a 3-4-3 if he really has to have 3 centre halves on the pitch. In fact, him and Tymon down that left side could be quite useful. The way Fosu likes to cut inside would leave space for Tymon on the overlap. Similarly the same would apply to the other side of the pitch with Campbell & Clarke/Sterling. Think he's too scared of the midfield being played through to do that. Suppose we might see it if we get a Pearson-esque shithouse midfielder, but I don't think he trusts us to not have 3 in the middle. Hence Powell only playing up front.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 16, 2023 13:34:41 GMT
Because we've got another manager who is intent on playing 5-3-2. He could even fit him in a 3-4-3 if he really has to have 3 centre halves on the pitch. In fact, him and Tymon down that left side could be quite useful. The way Fosu likes to cut inside would leave space for Tymon on the overlap. Similarly the same would apply to the other side of the pitch with Campbell & Clarke/Sterling. Think he's too scared of the midfield being played through to do that. Suppose we might see it if we get a Pearson-esque shithouse midfielder, but I don't think he trusts us to not have 3 in the middle. Hence Powell only playing up front. We get played through with 3 of them anyway so it wouldn't make much difference, at least we may actually have a decent chance of attacking this way.
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Fosu
Jan 16, 2023 13:47:28 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 13:47:28 GMT
Think he's too scared of the midfield being played through to do that. Suppose we might see it if we get a Pearson-esque shithouse midfielder, but I don't think he trusts us to not have 3 in the middle. Hence Powell only playing up front. We get played through with 3 of them anyway so it wouldn't make much difference, at least we may actually have a decent chance of attacking this way. Well yeah I agree. The 343 with Tyrese and Fosu behind Brown is my personal choice. Or even the 352 with Nick as a 10 and Brown/Campbell up front. I don't think Neil will change Saturday's midfield though unless he gets a new player in.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 16, 2023 20:43:53 GMT
We get played through with 3 of them anyway so it wouldn't make much difference, at least we may actually have a decent chance of attacking this way. Well yeah I agree. The 343 with Tyrese and Fosu behind Brown is my personal choice. Or even the 352 with Nick as a 10 and Brown/Campbell up front. I don't think Neil will change Saturday's midfield though unless he gets a new player in. Brown is absolute dog shit leading the line. He's pretty shit anyway(probably our worst attacking option) but he's really really bad at leading the line.
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Fosu
Jan 16, 2023 22:00:22 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 22:00:22 GMT
Well yeah I agree. The 343 with Tyrese and Fosu behind Brown is my personal choice. Or even the 352 with Nick as a 10 and Brown/Campbell up front. I don't think Neil will change Saturday's midfield though unless he gets a new player in. Brown is absolute dog shit leading the line. He's pretty shit anyway(probably our worst attacking option) but he's really really bad at leading the line. I disagree. He's a decent hold up man at this level and would be fine as a pressing number 9 with two quality, quick players around him.
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Post by boltonstokie on Jan 16, 2023 22:31:54 GMT
Brown is absolute dog shit leading the line. He's pretty shit anyway(probably our worst attacking option) but he's really really bad at leading the line. I disagree. He's a decent hold up man at this level and would be fine as a pressing number 9 with two quality, quick players around him. A decent hold up man??? He falls over anytime the ball is played into him! Often appealing for a foul when the defender simply stands their ground. He’s absolutely dreadful.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 16, 2023 22:51:26 GMT
Brown is absolute dog shit leading the line. He's pretty shit anyway(probably our worst attacking option) but he's really really bad at leading the line. I disagree. He's a decent hold up man at this level and would be fine as a pressing number 9 with two quality, quick players around him. Have you seen his first touch, he's not holding anything up 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 23:32:47 GMT
I disagree. He's a decent hold up man at this level and would be fine as a pressing number 9 with two quality, quick players around him. A decent hold up man??? He falls over anytime the ball is played into him! Often appealing for a foul when the defender simply stands their ground. He’s absolutely dreadful. I think he's fine in this league. He certainly was last season and in the latter half of 20/21. Helped when he wasn't tasked with bringing down 60 yard cannon fire and had players within 30 feet of him.
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Fosu
Jan 16, 2023 23:36:04 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 23:36:04 GMT
I disagree. He's a decent hold up man at this level and would be fine as a pressing number 9 with two quality, quick players around him. Have you seen his first touch, he's not holding anything up 😂 As above, he's fine for this league in my opinion. Not perfect but this is a league where Tom Ince is one of the best performing attackers this season, and Brown is perfectly serviceable with people like Campbell/Powell/Fosu around him.
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Fosu
Jan 16, 2023 23:46:39 GMT
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Post by riproaringagain on Jan 16, 2023 23:46:39 GMT
Was told today that he's unlikely to play for us again, the reason being is the terms of his loan deal, we are currently paying almost 45% of his wages and if he makes any more appearances it will double to almost 90%, Stoke are contractually obliged to name him in the matchday squad if he's fit. I can't confirm if this is 100% accurate but I have no reason to doubt the person who told me. It does explain why he's not getting any game time. Who the fuck agrees to these deals? Gouranga. Sanctioned by one Derek Del Boy Trotter
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 17, 2023 0:11:24 GMT
Have you seen his first touch, he's not holding anything up 😂 As above, he's fine for this league in my opinion. Not perfect but this is a league where Tom Ince is one of the best performing attackers this season, and Brown is perfectly serviceable with people like Campbell/Powell/Fosu around him. Tom Ince is 10x the player, Brown is fine as a worker but to expect anything else is misguided.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 2:33:43 GMT
Post by mtrstudent on Jan 17, 2023 2:33:43 GMT
He will be sent back soon. Neil clearly doesn't rate him. He reminds me of a poorer version of Assaidi. I'd take a poorer version of Assaidi right now! Would like to know why Neil's not giving him time since he actually gets past people. Yeah his end product was scattershot but sometimes it'll pay off and his threat gives their defence something extra to worry about.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 7:32:25 GMT
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Post by RF10 on Jan 17, 2023 7:32:25 GMT
He will be sent back soon. Neil clearly doesn't rate him. He reminds me of a poorer version of Assaidi. I'd take a poorer version of Assaidi right now! Would like to know why Neil's not giving him time since he actually gets past people. Yeah his end product was scattershot but sometimes it'll pay off and his threat gives their defence something extra to worry about. It wasn't a compliment.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 8:10:21 GMT
Post by femark on Jan 17, 2023 8:10:21 GMT
Neil has said before, if he's going to play 4-3-3 then it's got to be wingers not inside forwards. Unfortunately Fosu is the only winger we have so unless we bring a couple in, he's not going to play much.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 9:27:36 GMT
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 17, 2023 9:27:36 GMT
Neil has said before, if he's going to play 4-3-3 then it's got to be wingers not inside forwards. Unfortunately Fosu is the only winger we have so unless we bring a couple in, he's not going to play much. How do you play 433 with wingers that would be 451.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 9:31:19 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 17, 2023 9:31:19 GMT
I'd take a poorer version of Assaidi right now! Would like to know why Neil's not giving him time since he actually gets past people. Yeah his end product was scattershot but sometimes it'll pay off and his threat gives their defence something extra to worry about. It wasn't a compliment. Compliment or not, I’d take Assisi over Fosu in a heartbeat.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 9:38:33 GMT
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jan 17, 2023 9:38:33 GMT
AN bemoaned the lack of wingers except Fosu a number of times, then preceded to play him out of position a lot and now when a switch to a front 3 would seem the best way forwards, he just refuses to even acknowledge he's still at the club. Bizarre management. not if the rumour is true, if it is then playing him would be madness he can't play if it means we breach FFP, we cannot afford a points deductionwe clearly need pace & creativity in the side, even off the bench we clearly need some new players we are clearly absolutely maxed out on FFP We've just got rid of Burisk's and Delap's wages though so there must be a bit of room for manoeuvre. If AN doesn't play him against Reading then it's probably because he doesn't rate him as we could afford to play him with the wages saved.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 9:48:02 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 17, 2023 9:48:02 GMT
Neil has said before, if he's going to play 4-3-3 then it's got to be wingers not inside forwards. Unfortunately Fosu is the only winger we have so unless we bring a couple in, he's not going to play much. How do you play 433 with wingers that would be 451. Either side of the striker I guess, maybe as a wider front three.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 9:57:48 GMT
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Post by jhtstokie on Jan 17, 2023 9:57:48 GMT
Have you seen his first touch, he's not holding anything up 😂 As above, he's fine for this league in my opinion. Not perfect but this is a league where Tom Ince is one of the best performing attackers this season, and Brown is perfectly serviceable with people like Campbell/Powell/Fosu around him. Just a shame the ball bounces off Brown like a brick wall!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 17, 2023 10:01:28 GMT
How do you play 433 with wingers that would be 451. Either side of the striker I guess, maybe as a wider front three. I think it’s just manager speak when they’re trying to convince fans they’re playing more attacking formations than they are.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 10:13:58 GMT
Post by biglad180 on Jan 17, 2023 10:13:58 GMT
if Fosu or any other off opur loan players do not figure in Neils plans surly we should try and send them back soon as possible
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 10:38:52 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 17, 2023 10:38:52 GMT
Either side of the striker I guess, maybe as a wider front three. I think it’s just manager speak when they’re trying to convince fans they’re playing more attacking formations than they are. Ahhh an MON 433
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 17, 2023 10:46:37 GMT
I think it’s just manager speak when they’re trying to convince fans they’re playing more attacking formations than they are. Ahhh an MON 433 TBF it’s really common I can remember even Hughes claiming to be playing three forwards. After I’d just watched a game where one of the so called forwards had played about a yard in front of his right back.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 17, 2023 10:52:29 GMT
Brown is absolute dog shit leading the line. He's pretty shit anyway(probably our worst attacking option) but he's really really bad at leading the line. I disagree. He's a decent hold up man at this level and would be fine as a pressing number 9 with two quality, quick players around him. The one thing he definitely can’t do is hold the ball up and lead the line. Time and time again his control of the ball let’s him down and on the occasions he does manage to get the ball under control, he gets bullied easily by the opposition. He can press the opposition but that’s got nothing to do with hold up play.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 11:22:41 GMT
Post by femark on Jan 17, 2023 11:22:41 GMT
Neil has said before, if he's going to play 4-3-3 then it's got to be wingers not inside forwards. Unfortunately Fosu is the only winger we have so unless we bring a couple in, he's not going to play much. How do you play 433 with wingers that would be 451. They're both basically the same formation, not sure why you've decided to argue that point
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 17, 2023 12:04:47 GMT
How do you play 433 with wingers that would be 451. They're both basically the same formation, not sure why you've decided to argue that point In a 4-3-3 your wide players are higher up the pitch I think? They're essentially strikers playing out wide, looking to drift into dangerous positions, they wouldn't necessarily be the ones beating a man and heading for the touchline to put a cross over. In a 4-5-1 your wingers are basically part of your first bank and further back, they'll likely be more conventional, chalk on the boots wingers as well.
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Fosu
Jan 17, 2023 12:09:34 GMT
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 17, 2023 12:09:34 GMT
How do you play 433 with wingers that would be 451. They're both basically the same formation, not sure why you've decided to argue that point Because they aren't, wingers have always fallen as midfielders when formations are expressed 451 is a far more negative formation. Why do they like to portray it a 433 because they'd be slated for negativity. It's why people who don't like it always describe 3 at the back as 5 at the back, which I agree it looks far more like in the wrong hands. Basically I'm just not much of a fan of the majority of managers and coaches as their main focus is stifling the game and making it less enjoyable.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 17, 2023 12:12:13 GMT
They're both basically the same formation, not sure why you've decided to argue that point In a 4-3-3 your wide players are higher up the pitch I think? They're essentially strikers playing out wide, looking to drift into dangerous positions, they wouldn't necessarily be the ones beating a man and heading for the touchline to put a cross over. In a 4-5-1 your wingers are basically part of your first bank and further back, they'll likely be more conventional, chalk on the boots wingers as well. Making your lone forward very isolated.
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