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Shawcross
Jan 14, 2023 18:48:36 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 14, 2023 18:48:36 GMT
He won’t be working at Radio Stoke for long that’s for sure,I fear he may ho the same way as Nigel Gleghorn
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Post by matelot1996 on Jan 14, 2023 19:05:12 GMT
I never understand the desire to bring in ex successful players as coaches. It’s a bit like asking a good bin man to do the job of City Council planner when they are no longer fit enough to lump bins around. We need proven successful coaches at this time more than ever. There is no guarantee that Shawcross would change any of the attitudes, skills or endeavours of this lot. It takes a massive collective change of ethos to achieve anything like what we had 2010 ish. Ex players should have to prove themselves before being thrust into a supposedly higher level coaching jobs. Hope he does well. Top Man.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 14, 2023 19:08:31 GMT
He won’t be working at Radio Stoke for long that’s for sure,I fear he may ho the same way as Nigel Gleghorn I don't really like him as a pundit, he either doesn't appear to be tactically astute or he just can't communicate it properly for radio. Clive Clarke is the best.
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Shawcross
Jan 14, 2023 19:51:33 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 14, 2023 19:51:33 GMT
He won’t be working at Radio Stoke for long that’s for sure,I fear he may ho the same way as Nigel Gleghorn He’s assistant manager for Miami II, isn’t he? So, I imagine he’ll be gone soon regardless.
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Shawcross
Jan 14, 2023 20:02:34 GMT
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 14, 2023 20:02:34 GMT
If you listen to the radio stoke match commentary you will hear why he what we need. Our players need it straight not an arm around. I will most certainly be saying give 100% heart body and soul to the players or f off. What do you mean "or f off"? Are you expecting them to just resign? Otherwise for them to "f off", we need to either buy them out of their contracts (quids in for them, more money wasted for us with no money to replace them) or find someone to buy them off us (which no-one will because they're not very good and most clubs would immediately steer clear of players who any club is offloading due to lack of effort) and i can't really see any player being particularly bothered or upset by being given either of those 2 choices anyway. And no, you can't see he's what we need simply because he tells it straight. Strangely enough, you actually need a bit more than just the ability to give it to them straight to be successful as a manager or a coach. As many have said, if he proves to be good as a coach or manager, then he'll get chances at clubs but to think we are currently in a position where we could take a massive gamble on someome with no real experience in the job at all and just hope it comes good based on "he was ace when he played and he's a straight talker" is ridiculous.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 20:03:38 GMT
He clearly doesn’t think very much of the current set up.
He was generally spot on.
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Post by duckling on Feb 1, 2023 10:12:49 GMT
I never understand the desire to bring in ex successful players as coaches. It’s a bit like asking a good bin man to do the job of City Council planner when they are no longer fit enough to lump bins around. We need proven successful coaches at this time more than ever. There is no guarantee that Shawcross would change any of the attitudes, skills or endeavours of this lot. It takes a massive collective change of ethos to achieve anything like what we had 2010 ish. Ex players should have to prove themselves before being thrust into a supposedly higher level coaching jobs. Hope he does well. Top Man. I agree. One of my friends and former classmates is now a high school teacher. She has won a state level teaching award and was nominated for a national level teaching award. As a student, she was only slightly above average. Meanwhile, I was a star pupil, but there is no way I would be as good a high school teacher. My point is that being a great student doesn't mean someone would be a great teacher. Similarly, being a great football player doesn't mean someone would be a great football coach. They require different skills.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 1, 2023 11:31:34 GMT
I don't want him here. In fact I'd have no ex players employed at the club if I can help it, it smacks of nepotism and a bit of desperation to keep fans on board. Ricardo Fuller... coaching... the young lads... wow. get the best in class, if Ryan is good enough he'll get plenty of opportunities. I never understand the desire to bring in ex successful players as coaches. It’s a bit like asking a good bin man to do the job of City Council planner when they are no longer fit enough to lump bins around. We need proven successful coaches at this time more than ever. There is no guarantee that Shawcross would change any of the attitudes, skills or endeavours of this lot. It takes a massive collective change of ethos to achieve anything like what we had 2010 ish. Ex players should have to prove themselves before being thrust into a supposedly higher level coaching jobs. Hope he does well. Top Man. Sport isn't comparable to a job at the council. I think there's value in having ex-players in the youth setup. If two people were interviewed for a youth coaching job and both were even, but one was Shawcross, Fuller, or Lawrence, I'd go for the successful ex-player. A player a child aspired to (their hero) now coaching and mentoring them - there's something in that! The fact they're ex-players can also make them more approachable. Players like Fuller, Lawrence, and Walters had good careers despite mistakes, and there's a lot of knowledge they can pass on that isn't just about tactics and skills. We had players in the Pulis era who made the most of their ability. Not everyone at a club needs to be the absolute best possible coach either. Having a strong mentor to look up to is especially important for children and younger players.
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Shawcross
Feb 1, 2023 11:35:16 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Feb 1, 2023 11:35:16 GMT
If we bring him back on the quality of his coaching, then fine. If not its just a bit pointless really.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Feb 1, 2023 11:51:48 GMT
If you listen to the radio stoke match commentary you will hear why he what we need. Our players need it straight not an arm around. I will most certainly be saying give 100% heart body and soul to the players or f off. Wish he and a few more of our senior players would of given it straight to the wasters we had in our dressing room in the relegation season...and not waiting till there retired to share their concerns of our then dressing room on their podcasts..
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Post by stokeranger on Feb 1, 2023 11:52:19 GMT
If we bring him back on the quality of his coaching, then fine. If not its just a bit pointless really. Neil will just have his own staff, so that will be no ex Stoke players, let’s forget the past now, and look to the future.
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Post by bgreen13 on Feb 1, 2023 12:01:45 GMT
If we bring him back on the quality of his coaching, then fine. If not its just a bit pointless really. Neil will just have his own staff, so that will be no ex Stoke players, let’s forget the past now, and look to the future. Or just get the very best coach possible?
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Post by werrington on Feb 1, 2023 12:24:45 GMT
More misty eyed nostalgical bollocks
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 1, 2023 12:29:01 GMT
He has every single coaching badge you can possibly get. He's an excellent coach from what I've seen of him.
All negated, as he's at another club anyway.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 1, 2023 13:14:18 GMT
I don't want him here. In fact I'd have no ex players employed at the club if I can help it, it smacks of nepotism and a bit of desperation to keep fans on board. Ricardo Fuller... coaching... the young lads... wow. get the best in class, if Ryan is good enough he'll get plenty of opportunities. I never understand the desire to bring in ex successful players as coaches. It’s a bit like asking a good bin man to do the job of City Council planner when they are no longer fit enough to lump bins around. We need proven successful coaches at this time more than ever. There is no guarantee that Shawcross would change any of the attitudes, skills or endeavours of this lot. It takes a massive collective change of ethos to achieve anything like what we had 2010 ish. Ex players should have to prove themselves before being thrust into a supposedly higher level coaching jobs. Hope he does well. Top Man. Sport isn't comparable to a job at the council. I think there's value in having ex-players in the youth setup. If two people were interviewed for a youth coaching job and both were even, but one was Shawcross, Fuller, or Lawrence, I'd go for the successful ex-player. A player a child aspired to (their hero) now coaching and mentoring them - there's something in that! The fact they're ex-players can also make them more approachable. Players like Fuller, Lawrence, and Walters had good careers despite mistakes, and there's a lot of knowledge they can pass on that isn't just about tactics and skills. We had players in the Pulis era who made the most of their ability. Not everyone at a club needs to be the absolute best possible coach either. Having a strong mentor to look up to is especially important for children and younger players.on the nose, kids should leave training with a smile and having just enjoyed the session/game most will not make it too the levels they dream of but if they carry away a sense of enjoyment and good work ethic from a coach that can be taken into any career in the future sadly lots fall by the wayside and are left bereft and down about it all
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Post by Miles Offside on Feb 1, 2023 16:11:29 GMT
I could see Ryan here as a defensive coach, and I like the fact that his heart's in the club: he wouldn't just be coming for a job.
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Post by superalexneil on Feb 1, 2023 16:30:26 GMT
He has every single coaching badge you can possibly get. He's an excellent coach from what I've seen of him. All negated, as he's at another club anyway. what club? or is this another 'oooh look at me post' come on
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Post by marwood on Feb 1, 2023 16:37:30 GMT
He has every single coaching badge you can possibly get. He's an excellent coach from what I've seen of him. All negated, as he's at another club anyway. what club? or is this another 'oooh look at me post' come on I doubt its a 'look at me' post if you knew the fanbase you'd know Bunny and his place in it. He's as well-informed as anyone on here and has interviewed a lot our players
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Post by stormin on Feb 1, 2023 16:43:00 GMT
If we bring him back on the quality of his coaching, then fine. If not its just a bit pointless really. The club has to be careful, an ex star player like Shawcross could have his agenda and be divisive, especially if he didn't jell with the manager. Makes you wonder if the Delap duo were anti establishment.
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Shawcross
Feb 1, 2023 16:44:34 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 1, 2023 16:44:34 GMT
He has every single coaching badge you can possibly get. He's an excellent coach from what I've seen of him. All negated, as he's at another club anyway. Which club is he at?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 1, 2023 16:47:29 GMT
He has every single coaching badge you can possibly get. He's an excellent coach from what I've seen of him. All negated, as he's at another club anyway. Which club is he at? It seems like it’s a secret because no one ever answers the question
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Shawcross
Feb 1, 2023 16:52:18 GMT
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Post by gaznandi on Feb 1, 2023 16:52:18 GMT
It seems like it’s a secret because no one ever answers the question Inter Miami apparently (which he's now left if you believe this tweet)
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Shawcross
Feb 1, 2023 16:55:14 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 1, 2023 16:55:14 GMT
It seems like it’s a secret because no one ever answers the question Inter Miami apparently (which he's now left if you believe this tweet) I got the impression it was some team in this country🤔
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 1, 2023 16:56:00 GMT
Wasn't this filed as baloney last night by Pete Smith?
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Shawcross
Feb 1, 2023 16:57:16 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 1, 2023 16:57:16 GMT
Wasn't this filed as baloney last night by Pete Smith? It sure was
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 1, 2023 16:57:28 GMT
He has every single coaching badge you can possibly get. He's an excellent coach from what I've seen of him. All negated, as he's at another club anyway. what club? or is this another 'oooh look at me post' come on Look-at-me posts? Go on......
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Post by pushon on Feb 1, 2023 16:58:08 GMT
what club? or is this another 'oooh look at me post' come on I doubt its a 'look at me' post if you knew the fanbase you'd know Bunny and his place in it. He's as well-informed as anyone on here and has interviewed a lot our players Interesting(ish),Where and what is this Fanbase, is it a part of the club officially, or some mysterious society that's only conspicuous to a select and well vetted membership?
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 1, 2023 16:59:19 GMT
I can't say which club as he hasn't made it public knowledge - just wanted you to know that at present he couldn't work for us anyway. If you think this is look-at-me, then you couldn't be more wrong. Simply telling you what's happening.
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Post by gaznandi on Feb 1, 2023 17:00:48 GMT
I can't say which club as he hasn't made it public knowledge - just wanted you to know that at present he couldn't work for us anyway. If you think this is look-at-me, then you couldn't be more wrong. Simply telling you what's happening. He's definitely left Miami though Bunny?
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Shawcross
Feb 1, 2023 17:02:20 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 1, 2023 17:02:20 GMT
I am pretty sure now the transfer window has closed, we will see Delap's coaching role being filled pretty soon.
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