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Pennant
Jan 2, 2023 0:16:32 GMT
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Post by daz2631 on Jan 2, 2023 0:16:32 GMT
Just read jermaine has been declared bankrupt how on earth has he managed that?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 2, 2023 0:17:24 GMT
By spending all his money?
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 2, 2023 0:26:21 GMT
He’s had a chequered history.
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Pennant
Jan 2, 2023 0:30:54 GMT
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Post by musik on Jan 2, 2023 0:30:54 GMT
Tipping? Betting? Losing?
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 2, 2023 0:35:45 GMT
Daft twat left his Ferrari or whatever it was in a car park in Spain.
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 2, 2023 1:04:17 GMT
Probably because he’s a bit of a muppet.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 2, 2023 1:30:41 GMT
Because he probably gave up on education at the age of 11 but still decided that he would be a better caretaker of his finances than an actual finance manager.
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Pennant
Jan 2, 2023 2:05:47 GMT
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jan 2, 2023 2:05:47 GMT
Does he still have the tasteful bacofoil Aston Martin?
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Post by callas12 on Jan 2, 2023 3:52:15 GMT
He's been picking up a few shifts on Talksport lately aswell. The Sentinel & all the main tabloids ran an article on his old mansion he lived in whilst playing at Stoke in Cheshire & apparently its bit of an eye sore now that has been taken over by drug dealers and has even caught fire a few times. With his form it sounds like he probably just upped and left that house aswell when his relationship broke down and he moved back south.
To have so much and flutter it all away with poor & random life choices is just maddness, no sympathy I'm afraid.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 2, 2023 4:51:19 GMT
Coming soon to a poor ITV4 celebrity programme no doubt
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 2, 2023 7:25:44 GMT
For me it’s the complete waste of a life that was given a golden opportunity to thrive with the riches of a top level footballer. For every muppet like Pennant there’s 1000s of young footballers who would love that opportunity.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 2, 2023 8:53:01 GMT
For me it’s the complete waste of a life that was given a golden opportunity to thrive with the riches of a top level footballer. For every muppet like Pennant there’s 1000s of young footballers who would love that opportunity. No sympathy but such a shame. It would be an interesting case study for young footballers to compare him and Jenas, two boys of the same age with very similar backgrounds, fathers both semi professional footballers, both grew up on the same poor council estate in Nottingham and played together for the same boys team (Clifton All Whites). Both had outstanding ability and were picked up by local football teams with Pennant joining County and Jenas Forest. Both excelled at youth level and moved to the Premier at an early age, Jenas with Newcastle but the more eye catching one Pennant to Arsenal before he had made an appearance at County as the first million pound youth player transfer. Neither really fulfilled their early promise but Jenas had a steady career and has now found a career as a pundit whereas Pennant as we know completely wasted his talents and money
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 2, 2023 9:05:15 GMT
For me it’s the complete waste of a life that was given a golden opportunity to thrive with the riches of a top level footballer. For every muppet like Pennant there’s 1000s of young footballers who would love that opportunity. No sympathy but such a shame. It would be an interesting case study for young footballers to compare him and Jenas, two boys of the same age with very similar backgrounds, fathers both semi professional footballers, both grew up on the same poor council estate in Nottingham and played together for the same boys team (Clifton All Whites). Both had outstanding ability and were picked up by local football teams with Pennant joining County and Jenas Forest. Both excelled at youth level and moved to the Premier at an early age, Jenas with Newcastle but the more eye catching one Pennant to Arsenal before he had made an appearance at County as the first million pound youth player transfer. Neither really fulfilled their early promise but Jenas had a steady career and has now found a career as a pundit whereas Pennant as we know completely wasted his talents and money Interesting comparison, thank you. Jenas is a clever lad.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 2, 2023 9:11:15 GMT
No sympathy but such a shame. It would be an interesting case study for young footballers to compare him and Jenas, two boys of the same age with very similar backgrounds, fathers both semi professional footballers, both grew up on the same poor council estate in Nottingham and played together for the same boys team (Clifton All Whites). Both had outstanding ability and were picked up by local football teams with Pennant joining County and Jenas Forest. Both excelled at youth level and moved to the Premier at an early age, Jenas with Newcastle but the more eye catching one Pennant to Arsenal before he had made an appearance at County as the first million pound youth player transfer. Neither really fulfilled their early promise but Jenas had a steady career and has now found a career as a pundit whereas Pennant as we know completely wasted his talents and money Interesting comparison, thank you. Jenas is a clever lad. The question for me being interested in psychology is why did they turn out so differently - was it genes, their life experiences or the way they reacted to their experiences. It's a perfect nature/nurture study.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 2, 2023 9:15:01 GMT
Didn't pennant have a terrible upbringing, his mum being a smackhead and couldn't even get him ready for school, no dad on the scene
Not making excuses but this kind of upbringing often leads to mistakes in adulthood
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 2, 2023 9:23:04 GMT
Didn't pennant have a terrible upbringing, his mum being a smackhead and couldn't even get him ready for school, no dad on the scene Not making excuses but this kind of upbringing often leads to mistakes in adulthood Could be, I have no idea on their family background but you would think moving away from Nottingham to the Arsenal youth team at 15 he should have had a very good education from them about choices and temptations and what to do with the money he would potentially earn.
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Post by felonious on Jan 2, 2023 9:29:40 GMT
Didn't pennant have a terrible upbringing, his mum being a smackhead and couldn't even get him ready for school, no dad on the scene Not making excuses but this kind of upbringing often leads to mistakes in adulthood Could be, I have no idea on their family background but you would think moving away from Nottingham to the Arsenal youth team at 15 he should have had a very good education from them about choices and temptations and what to do with the money he would potentially earn. ..... and of course no long term harm done to him in the first 15 years of his life.....
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Post by Gods on Jan 2, 2023 10:07:14 GMT
I see he is still only 39, younger than Jagielka.
Says he owes money to the Inland Revenue and several debtors. Wonder if he literally has no money or won't/can't sell his assets, such as house/car in order to pay off his debts.
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Post by emery1985 on Jan 2, 2023 10:11:51 GMT
He’s had a chequered history. He'll bounce back.
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Pennant
Jan 2, 2023 10:12:49 GMT
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 2, 2023 10:12:49 GMT
A talented player that could easily have been even better. Forgot we signed him from Real Zaragoza and that he initially came on loan, and that we loaned him to Wolves. Remember him being one of our main threats in an injury weakened side in the FA Cup Final and that he was targeted in sequence by different Man City players, given free licence to do so by Atkinson. Another player in the category of more appearances and goals for Stoke than any other team. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jermaine_Pennant
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Post by walrus on Jan 2, 2023 10:14:35 GMT
Pennant as we know completely wasted his talents and money The phrase “wasted his talents” gets used a lot but I think it’s usually misplaced. He still had a decade long career playing elite football and played over 200 games in England and Spain’s top flights, which is more than 99.9% of aspiring footballers ever achieve. Perhaps it would be fairer to say he didn’t quite live up to his potential, but very few people in any walk of life do.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 2, 2023 10:47:12 GMT
Could be, I have no idea on their family background but you would think moving away from Nottingham to the Arsenal youth team at 15 he should have had a very good education from them about choices and temptations and what to do with the money he would potentially earn. ..... and of course no long term harm done to him in the first 15 years of his life..... When did I say that? There are plenty of example though of people who have equally bad family background (conjecture as I can find no actual evidence of his mother's neglect) and less natural talent/ability than Pennant but go on to lead responsible lives. He was given every chance and as a Premier footballer would have had a lot more help and support than most people get but in the end every club he joined lost patience with him. Jenas growing up on the same estate and living there until older had no priveleged background but you are right could have had a supportive family, again conjecture but again leads to the question nature or nurture.
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Pennant
Jan 2, 2023 10:49:04 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 2, 2023 10:49:04 GMT
I'm sure he'll have tucked money away somewhere, it's just a way of getting rid of his debts.
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Pennant
Jan 2, 2023 10:50:26 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jan 2, 2023 10:50:26 GMT
I'm sure he'll have tucked money away somewhere, it's just a way of getting rid of his debts. He would need to have thought about it to do that!
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Post by Gods on Jan 2, 2023 11:03:39 GMT
Pennant as we know completely wasted his talents and money The phrase “wasted his talents” gets used a lot but I think it’s usually misplaced. He still had a decade long career playing elite football and played over 200 games in England and Spain’s top flights, which is more than 99.9% of aspiring footballers ever achieve. Perhaps it would be fairer to say he didn’t quite live up to his potential, but very few people in any walk of life do. I wonder too, and if his ship has gone down it's gone down with the band playing!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 2, 2023 11:09:24 GMT
..... and of course no long term harm done to him in the first 15 years of his life..... When did I say that? There are plenty of example though of people who have equally bad family background (conjecture as I can find no actual evidence of his mother's neglect) and less natural talent/ability than Pennant but go on to lead responsible lives. He was given every chance and as a Premier footballer would have had a lot more help and support than most people get but in the end every club he joined lost patience with him. Jenas growing up on the same estate and living there until older had no priveleged background but you are right could have had a supportive family, again conjecture but again leads to the question nature or nurture. As a society we’re very harsh on people who make bad choices in life with little understanding as to why they make them. An environment that might influence one person to make poor choices in life may make another determined not to repeat them in theirs.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 2, 2023 11:21:42 GMT
When did I say that? There are plenty of example though of people who have equally bad family background (conjecture as I can find no actual evidence of his mother's neglect) and less natural talent/ability than Pennant but go on to lead responsible lives. He was given every chance and as a Premier footballer would have had a lot more help and support than most people get but in the end every club he joined lost patience with him. Jenas growing up on the same estate and living there until older had no priveleged background but you are right could have had a supportive family, again conjecture but again leads to the question nature or nurture. As a society we’re very harsh on people who make bad choices in life with little understanding as to why they make them. An environment that might influence one person to make poor choices in life may make another determined not to repeat them in theirs. Absolutely right. Lacking the input of a mother from the age of 3, as it seems happened to Pennant, often makes adult life difficult for people. Compassion is an important principle in life as far as I'm concerned and it's all too easy for people on the outside to lack that approach.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 2, 2023 11:35:27 GMT
Interesting comparison, thank you. Jenas is a clever lad. The question for me being interested in psychology is why did they turn out so differently - was it genes, their life experiences or the way they reacted to their experiences. It's a perfect nature/nurture study. It’s really not. A perfect nature/nurture study would look at monozygotic twins separated at birth, for which I believe there are a few.
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Post by Gods on Jan 2, 2023 12:02:00 GMT
The question for me being interested in psychology is why did they turn out so differently - was it genes, their life experiences or the way they reacted to their experiences. It's a perfect nature/nurture study. It’s really not. A perfect nature/nurture study would look at monozygotic twins separated at birth, for which I believe there are a few. Irwin Shaw's novel 'Rich Man, Poor Man' is an interesting study of this topic, and a good read too.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 2, 2023 12:08:08 GMT
he needs have a talk toJordan, she is bankrupt but seems to be doing ok
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