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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 25, 2022 21:48:48 GMT
It’ll be interesting to see what he does for the Wales game. Has to make changes for me.
Pickford
Walker (if fit) Stones Maguire Shaw
Bellingham Rice
Saka Maddison (if fit) Foden
Kane
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Post by lordb on Nov 25, 2022 22:01:27 GMT
Maddison not trained so far
Whoever plays more, lots more, energy please
Edit: and substitutions when required not 20,30 minutes too late
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 25, 2022 22:25:10 GMT
I have lived in both these countries.
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Post by Gods on Nov 25, 2022 22:25:20 GMT
I thought he might rest a few.
We're through unless we lose 4 zip to Wales aren't we?
I suppose it depends how far you think its a big deal to finish top of the group.
Any team we field should be enough to tuck away hapless Wales.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 25, 2022 22:26:01 GMT
Maddison won't play in this world cup.
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Post by marwood on Nov 25, 2022 22:34:14 GMT
Grealish to start Foden at some stage
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 25, 2022 22:38:50 GMT
Tonight we saw the same incohesion, confusion that we've seen since the final of euro 20.
We're on a downward cycle. Players like sterling, and dare I say Kane, are past it now, and looked miles off the pace.
We need a new manager, new start, to get the best from Alexander Arnold, Bellingham, the real world class players in this squad
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Post by Goonie on Nov 25, 2022 22:39:44 GMT
Maddison won't play in this world cup. Sad but true
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Post by Goonie on Nov 25, 2022 22:41:37 GMT
Tonight we saw the same incohesion, confusion that we've seen since the final of euro 20. We're on a downward cycle. Players like sterling, and dare I say Kane, are past it now, and looked miles off the pace. We need a new manager, new start, to get the best from Alexander Arnold, Bellingham, the real world class players in this squad The only way Southgate will dare to drop any of them is through injury A decent team will press and stifle and attack on the counter
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Post by march4 on Nov 25, 2022 22:51:15 GMT
Kane, Stirling, Saka and Mount were all dreadful particularly when USA had the ball. Didn’t even notice Bellingham was on the pitch.
You can’t win games when half your team goes missing
We will lose to Wales, scrape through the group in 2nd place and lose to Holland or Ecuador in the first knock out stage.
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Post by westlandstokie on Nov 26, 2022 7:08:56 GMT
Kane, Stirling, Saka and Mount were all dreadful particularly when USA had the ball. Didn’t even notice Bellingham was on the pitch. You can’t win games when half your team goes missing We will lose to Wales, scrape through the group in 2nd place and lose to Holland or Ecuador in the first knock out stage. Even my wife said what does Kane bring to the team ? Kane wasn’t the only waste of time but how he starts every game is beyond me…he slows down every attack we have…massively overrated in my opinion.
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Post by milton58 on Nov 26, 2022 7:45:47 GMT
It’ll be interesting to see what he does for the Wales game. Has to make changes for me. Pickford Walker (if fit) Stones Maguire Shaw Bellingham Rice Saka Maddison (if fit) Foden Kane you realise were going to get beat 4 0 by Wales and be eliminated from the world cup...only wezza starts the England threads
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2022 8:45:08 GMT
For me I think Saka and Mount will drop to the bench. Sterling moves to the right with Grealish coming in on the left and Foden in for Mount.
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 26, 2022 8:45:58 GMT
Maddison won't play in this world cup. What a waste of a squad place if that turns out to be true.
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 26, 2022 8:47:53 GMT
I’ve said it before, but I can’t for the life of me see what that Mount brings to the team. All of his managers at Chelsea love him and he’s one of Southgates favourites also, but the game just seems to pass him by.
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Post by lordb on Nov 26, 2022 8:48:11 GMT
Maddison won't play in this world cup. What a waste of a squad place if that turns out to be true. He's injured
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 26, 2022 8:51:10 GMT
Maddison won't play in this world cup. What a waste of a squad place if that turns out to be true. Just to quieten the clamour in the press. Shows what a spineless tit Southgate really is.
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 26, 2022 9:03:53 GMT
Sterling can be dangerous.
Last night England rarely played the ball down the left hand side. On numerous occasions there was acres of space with Sterling and a midfielder un marked and unused whilst the right wing was overcrowded and unproductive.
Tip tapy across the back three right to left, left to right was useless with very few decisive passes forward.
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Post by werrington on Nov 26, 2022 9:08:13 GMT
Cmon England ….look a clear winner 😊
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Post by Waggy on Nov 26, 2022 9:12:00 GMT
How Foden did not play is beyond me. The one player that can create something out of nothing. We have one of the best attacking teams in the tournament yet play very cautious. We don't even counter attack fast and we never take on the defence. Terrible tactics. As a nation we don't want to watch lets not lose football we want lets go for it football.
Southgate’s tactics and his virtue signalling is sucking the life out of England.
Unentertaining football.
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 26, 2022 9:23:25 GMT
What a waste of a squad place if that turns out to be true. He's injured Makes it even more bewildering why he has traveled in the first place?
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Post by werrington on Nov 26, 2022 9:26:36 GMT
Makes it even more bewildering why he has traveled in the first place? He got injured in training not before he traveled mate
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2022 9:28:44 GMT
Makes it even more bewildering why he has traveled in the first place? He got injured in training not before he traveled mate I thought he got injured at West Ham mate and was taken off as a precaution
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Post by Gods on Nov 26, 2022 9:45:51 GMT
Why does the BBC sports correspondent keep saying Wales need to beat England 4-0 to qualify?
If Iran v USA is a draw then surely a Wales win by any score will do it.
What am I missing?
I suppose the 4-0 scenario is the only guaranteed way of doing it since it would mean they finish above England but it's not the realistic one we should be discussing.
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Post by werrington on Nov 26, 2022 10:05:44 GMT
Why does the BBC sports correspondent keep saying Wales need to beat England 4-0 to qualify? If Iran v USA is a draw then surely a Wales win by any score will do it. What am I missing? I suppose the 4-0 scenario is the only guaranteed way of doing it since it would mean they finish above England but it's not the realistic one we should be discussing. No because the Iran draw would still need wales to win by a 4-0 margin as they’d be on the same points as Iran and England
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Post by mattythestokie on Nov 26, 2022 10:09:49 GMT
Makes it even more bewildering why he has traveled in the first place? He got injured in training not before he traveled mate He got injured for Leicester
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2022 10:10:54 GMT
He was already injured, Southgate chanced it and he got injured again. Waste of a squad place, we are seriously short of Kane replacements
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Post by a on Nov 26, 2022 10:11:55 GMT
Maddison won't play in this world cup. Weird taking him then isn’t it
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Post by Gods on Nov 26, 2022 10:34:10 GMT
Why does the BBC sports correspondent keep saying Wales need to beat England 4-0 to qualify? If Iran v USA is a draw then surely a Wales win by any score will do it. What am I missing? I suppose the 4-0 scenario is the only guaranteed way of doing it since it would mean they finish above England but it's not the realistic one we should be discussing. No because the Iran draw would still need wales to win by a 4-0 margin as they’d be on the same points as Iran and England I'm still missing something mate. Maybe I just don't have the brain power for this but say for example the final 2 results are this: Wales 1 England 0 Iran 0 USA 0 Then the final table will look like this won't it? 1st England 4 Points GD +3 2nd Wales 4 Points GD -1 ---------------------------- 3rd Iran 4 Points GD -2 4th USA 3 Points GD 0
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Post by werrington on Nov 26, 2022 10:36:42 GMT
No because the Iran draw would still need wales to win by a 4-0 margin as they’d be on the same points as Iran and England I'm still missing something mate. Maybe I just don't have the brain power for this but say for example the final 2 results are this: Wales 1 England 0 Iran 0 USA 0 Then the final table will look like this won't it? 1st England 4 Points GD +3 2nd Wales 4 Points GD -1 ---------------------------- 3rd Iran 4 Points GD -2 4th USA 3 Points GD 0 We talked about this last night mate as I thought it was head to head and not goal difference but that scenario would mean it wasn’t head to head Fucked if I know 😊
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