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Post by Sfance on Nov 18, 2022 21:27:51 GMT
I hear we’re monitoring Parrott.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 18, 2022 21:44:35 GMT
We should never have put all our hopes on Delap.... A strong target forward would have been an ideal partner for Gayle!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2022 23:04:33 GMT
Campbell overall has been ok this season. If we have fans who have genuinely watched this guy play this season and we also have the same fans accept his “performances” as OK then those fans probably deserve the Shite we are currently watching. That assessment of Campbell is unfathomable. Quite disturbing. He’s stretched the play and been fine generally. He’s missed chances he should score and that’s been disappointing but people go way ott with him. And there’s no good reason why tbh.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2022 23:05:07 GMT
We should never have put all our hopes on Delap.... A strong target forward would have been an ideal partner for Gayle!!! You’re blaming another striker for Gayle not being able to score. Ok
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2022 23:10:26 GMT
I hear we’re monitoring Parrott. I've heard he's going cheap as well.
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Post by BuzzB on Nov 18, 2022 23:38:25 GMT
We are going through a period of "we are just plain shit". Accept and be patient or let it do your tree in. Cast minds back to 2010/11 onwards and how we were all saying "its a fantastic time to be a Stokie". Swings and roundabouts, And Campbells still shit. (smiley thing)
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 19, 2022 2:49:52 GMT
We should never have put all our hopes on Delap.... A strong target forward would have been an ideal partner for Gayle!!! You’re blaming another striker for Gayle not being able to score. Ok Now I didn't quite say that bayern, that's just you jumping to your own self absorbed conclusions!!! Delap as been as equally disappointing, but he's still trying to find his feet in the football league, which is totally different to youth team football!!! I personally don't think we're playing Gayle right, he's a poacher, a box player, and would probably have benefitted more playing off a target man, and that's why I think we were daft to go all out on a youth team player, all because of the reputation he built up in the Manchester City youth team.... Instead of going for a target forward!!! It's got nothing to do with blaming Delap for Gayle firing blanks.... So to speak!!!
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Post by matelot1996 on Nov 19, 2022 6:07:52 GMT
If we have fans who have genuinely watched this guy play this season and we also have the same fans accept his “performances” as OK then those fans probably deserve the Shite we are currently watching. That assessment of Campbell is unfathomable. Quite disturbing. He’s stretched the play and been fine generally. He’s missed chances he should score and that’s been disappointing but people go way ott with him. And there’s no good reason why tbh. Im sure MON and AN both think the same. That’s why he is not a regular starter or finisher of matches. He’s been terrible, deserves his place on the bench.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 19, 2022 8:28:54 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 8:37:17 GMT
He’s stretched the play and been fine generally. He’s missed chances he should score and that’s been disappointing but people go way ott with him. And there’s no good reason why tbh. Im sure MON and AN both think the same. That’s why he is not a regular starter or finisher of matches. He’s been terrible, deserves his place on the bench. One was sacked and one could easily be sacked within 6 months. An excellent yardstick 😂 He’s been fine. He should only be used on the right though and not when he’s got glandular fever.
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Post by Marc01 on Nov 19, 2022 9:12:19 GMT
After 3 in the top 6, it’s no surprise that Campbell competes the set so quickly. Early in the season it was said that we would have the best forward line in the Championship and any team would want the players. It’s akin to the first few matches of the 1989/90 season and chants of: “We’re gonna win the league…” Only to finish rock bottom 🙂 I wouldn’t be surprised if our forward line stats were better that season… even though there are no such stats to prove it.
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Post by lordb on Nov 19, 2022 9:48:34 GMT
After 3 in the top 6, it’s no surprise that Campbell competes the set so quickly. Early in the season it was said that we would have the best forward line in the Championship and any team would want the players. It’s akin to the first few matches of the 1989/90 season and chants of: “We’re gonna win the league…” Only to finish rock bottom 🙂 I wouldn’t be surprised if our forward line stats were better that season… even though there are no such stats to prove it. Definitely less misses, way less misses Beagrie, Hackett and Palin were laying on glorious chance after chance for that fraud Bamber to miss with increasing appalingness Other than the Rotherham game we haven't been like that
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Post by Gods on Nov 19, 2022 9:56:09 GMT
Somewhere hidden behind having 4 strikers in the Top 7 of the 'cow / arse / banjo' table is some good news!
I think it's this. That we have dominated games in a way which belies our league position hovering just above the relegation zone.
This surely can't persist across 46 league games, can it ?!
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 19, 2022 10:05:47 GMT
Somewhere hidden behind having 4 strikers in the Top 7 of the 'cow / arse / banjo' table is some good news! I think it's this. That we have dominated games in a way which belies our league position hovering just above the relegation zone. This surely can't persist across 46 league games, can it ?! Alternatively you could say that it IS bad because we are dominating games and not creating good enough chances or any chances.
If we are creating chances and missing them, it's as simple as your luck evening out or finding more clinical strikers. If we aren't creating good enough chances or any chances (let's be honest, we're not creating anything are we?) then it's actually quite a serious issue that is a lot harder to fix.
It means we haven't actually got to the stage where we can judge if our strikers are good enough !
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Post by Marc01 on Nov 19, 2022 10:08:50 GMT
After 3 in the top 6, it’s no surprise that Campbell competes the set so quickly. Early in the season it was said that we would have the best forward line in the Championship and any team would want the players. It’s akin to the first few matches of the 1989/90 season and chants of: “We’re gonna win the league…” Only to finish rock bottom 🙂 I wouldn’t be surprised if our forward line stats were better that season… even though there are no such stats to prove it. Definitely less misses, way less misses Beagrie, Hackett and Palin were laying on glorious chance after chance for that fraud Bamber to miss with increasing appalingness Other than the Rotherham game we haven't been like that 1989/90 would have taken on a different complexion had we been able to convert the chances in the early games. I don’t think the chance creation continued for too long though, once we occupied 24th. I wonder how many watched the combined “0-9 defeat” on trips to Oxford and Swindon in the space of 3 days in November 89 🙂 The strikers had scored 7 by this stage that season. 3 from Biggins. 2 from Big Dave, 1 each Morgan and Saunders. (2022/23 Campbell 2, Delap 1) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989–90_Stoke_City_F.C._season
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Post by a on Nov 19, 2022 10:09:52 GMT
At least he does that, Campbell doesn’t even do that 😂 Campbell overall has been ok this season. Great 😂 we need better if that’s ok
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 10:11:23 GMT
Campbell overall has been ok this season. Great 😂 we need better if that’s ok We do. But he’s the least of our problems up front. And shouldn’t be playing up front tbh. Another curious decision from Neil.
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Post by lordb on Nov 19, 2022 10:15:08 GMT
Great 😂 we need better if that’s ok We do. But he’s the least of our problems up front. And shouldn’t be playing up front tbh. Another curious decision from Neil. He shouldn't be playing full stop He's had glandular fever he shouldn't be playing for a month or two
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 10:16:42 GMT
We do. But he’s the least of our problems up front. And shouldn’t be playing up front tbh. Another curious decision from Neil. He shouldn't be playing full stop He's had glandular fever he shouldn't be playing for a month or two Well yeah but before that. He does his best work on the right and should play there. It’s like how he’s been using Powell as a striker too. It’s just madness.
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Post by Gods on Nov 19, 2022 10:21:38 GMT
Somewhere hidden behind having 4 strikers in the Top 7 of the 'cow / arse / banjo' table is some good news! I think it's this. That we have dominated games in a way which belies our league position hovering just above the relegation zone. This surely can't persist across 46 league games, can it ?! Alternatively you could say that it IS bad because we are dominating games and not creating good enough chances or any chances. If we are creating chances and missing them, it's as simple as your luck evening out or finding more clinical strikers. If we aren't creating good enough chances or any chances (let's be honest, we're not creating anything are we?) then it's actually quite a serious issue that is a lot harder to fix. It means we haven't actually got to the stage where we can judge if our strikers are good enough !
Yep, there is a 3rd dimension here, which is quality of chance.
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Post by lordb on Nov 19, 2022 10:30:57 GMT
He shouldn't be playing full stop He's had glandular fever he shouldn't be playing for a month or two Well yeah but before that. He does his best work on the right and should play there. It’s like how he’s been using Powell as a striker too. It’s just madness. Certainly on his own wouldn't play him down the middle In a pair with a big striker Campbell should be effective Otherwise on the right or the left
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Post by a on Nov 19, 2022 10:40:00 GMT
Who’s the fourth? Campbell?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 19, 2022 10:41:31 GMT
Who’s the fourth? Campbell? Yes mate it’s in the article
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 19, 2022 10:56:38 GMT
He shouldn't be playing full stop He's had glandular fever he shouldn't be playing for a month or two Well yeah but before that. He does his best work on the right and should play there. It’s like how he’s been using Powell as a striker too. It’s just madness. It's not madness at all he leads the line better than any of our strikers.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 10:59:49 GMT
Well yeah but before that. He does his best work on the right and should play there. It’s like how he’s been using Powell as a striker too. It’s just madness. It's not madness at all he leads the line better than any of our strikers. It is. He’s a number ten and should be used only there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2022 11:26:18 GMT
It's not madness at all he leads the line better than any of our strikers. It is. He’s a number ten and should be used only there. In an ideal world yes but we are not living in one. Our four front line strikers have scored the sum total of 4 goals and none of them can lead the line properly. AN is just scratching around trying to find something that works. The Powell experiment failed miserably but I don't blame him for trying him there. Delap was supposed to be the target man but he's out of his depth. Campbell refuses to jump or play with his back to goal and Brown couldn't trap a bag of cement. The diminutive Gayle has made the best fist of it out of all of them which is a joke in itself. I really don't know what the answer is with the forwards we currently have do you?
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Post by lordb on Nov 19, 2022 11:26:37 GMT
It's not madness at all he leads the line better than any of our strikers. It is. He’s a number ten and should be used only there. Thougt he was useful on the left as well
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 11:27:33 GMT
It is. He’s a number ten and should be used only there. In an ideal world yes but we are not living in one. Our four front line strikers have scored the sum total of 4 goals and none of them can lead the line properly. AN is just scratching around trying to find something that works. The Powell experiment failed miserably but I don't blame him for trying him there. Delap was supposed to be the target man but he's out of his depth. Campbell refuses to jump or play with his back to goal and Brown couldn't trap a bag of cement. The diminutive Gayle has made the best fist of it out of all of them which is a joke in itself. I really don't know what the answer is with the forwards we currently have do you? Yes, play Powell as a ten. He shouldn’t be used for anything else.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 19, 2022 11:28:28 GMT
It is. He’s a number ten and should be used only there. Thougt he was useful on the left as well Can’t agree. It’s a waste of him. He muddles through because he’s such a good player. Idiot managers playing our best player not in his best position. Where do find these morons.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 19, 2022 11:33:06 GMT
Even on a free, Gayle looks more and more like another shocking signing
His age, recent goal record and the fact that clubs werent clamouring for him concerned me but I was prepared to give him the benefit
My worse fears have been confirmed……only Stoke ☹️
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