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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:03:14 GMT
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Post by thewonderstuff on Nov 12, 2022 17:03:14 GMT
The manager hasn't helped today but he is going to need 3 to 4 transfer windows to get anywhere close to sorting out this mess. Yet again ,go a goal down and we all may as well go home. No urgency or belief whatsoever we could get back into it. Thank god for 4 weeks off! Sick of hearing managers need transfer windows we said some for the last 3/4 previous managers He's had zero so far to be fair. Perhaps he needs at least one?
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Post by Billy the kid on Nov 12, 2022 17:03:43 GMT
I have no idea what tactics we were trying to play today, and having a throw in 5 yards from the corner flag, and then its played all the way back to Bonham said it all. Their first fuck me HOW MANY TIMES did he get a free header, before and after scoring? Total garbage, and I think we are in a lot of trouble.
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Post by 1972stokey on Nov 12, 2022 17:04:13 GMT
Looking at todays performance he needs at least 8 starting players. I’d only keep Thompson, Tymon and Baker.
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Post by milky on Nov 12, 2022 17:04:37 GMT
The manager hasn't helped today but he is going to need 3 to 4 transfer windows to get anywhere close to sorting out this mess. Yet again ,go a goal down and we all may as well go home. No urgency or belief whatsoever we could get back into it. Thank god for 4 weeks off! Sick of hearing managers need transfer windows we said some for the last 3/4 previous managers That's because we constantly shop in a specific pool( and one that's getting more shallow each year ) when it comes to appointing managers. We are totally obsessed with British managers and we replace one failing one with another who plays a totally different brand of football so we basically have to rip everything up and start again. The problems at this club are very much right at the top. There is never any continuity whatsoever, we just stumble from one car crash to another.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 12, 2022 17:04:41 GMT
Should've gone for Mark Robins at Cov, especially when they were bottom of the table, he might have been tempted.
I see Cov have just won four on the spin without conceding a single goal against Blackburn, Watford, Wigan and QPR, some set of results that, and of course did a simple number on us too. I would not be surprised to see them in the play-offs at least this year.
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:07:01 GMT
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Post by cheadlepotter on Nov 12, 2022 17:07:01 GMT
The manager hasn't helped today but he is going to need 3 to 4 transfer windows to get anywhere close to sorting out this mess. And then we’ll sack him and replace him with a completely different style of manager, and then we’ll say he needs 3 or 4 transfer windows.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 12, 2022 17:07:01 GMT
JC: We sacked the last manager as he said he can't take this squad to a top 2 finish. Can you deliver that? AN: Yes of course. JC: There are only hours left of this window so you will have to work with the current squad. Is that going to be a problem? AN: No, not at all. JC: Welcome to Stoke City Mr Neil.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 12, 2022 17:07:30 GMT
Why didn't he replace Wilmot with Taylor, or even Flint, as he was beaten by Bartlet at every set piece! Really crap management not being able to see that! Our central defenders make mistake after mistake, but still they play. Everyone who really thinks Wilmot is a superior defender to Taylor needs to think twice, I'm fed up of watching his mistakes week in week out! Our strikeforce, or should I say peace squad, are really terrible! Campbell, Gayle and Delap can f--- off if it was up to me! Absolutely zero quality again! Brown at least tries despite being a very limited footballer. This was probably our worst performance all season, and that in itself is really an achievment!
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 12, 2022 17:08:38 GMT
Interesting that Corberan and Carrick have hit the ground running at West Brom and Boro
Meanwhile we continue as we were, same old, same old
Fed up with it
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:09:51 GMT
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Post by greenhoff on Nov 12, 2022 17:09:51 GMT
Talks a good game would be my opinion. Unfortunately hasn't backed it up with results. Our movement and sense of urgency remains poor. Set pieces remain poor. Chops and changes far too much. In short we've appointed another mediocre British manager and the cycle continues. We're crap on and off the pitch.
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 12, 2022 17:11:10 GMT
The squad is crap. We can not keep changing managers.
Needs a total rebuild. Sadly few of these players have any resale value.
A serious look at returning some loan players is needed.
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:11:17 GMT
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Post by stokie23 on Nov 12, 2022 17:11:17 GMT
Not one to overreact but that was terrible today. Utterly shite!
Never change a winning team > four changes?!?
Players didn’t look up for it at all today, Powell called it a day after a minor knock as per. Wish I could fuck a dozen of them off!
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Post by dirtclod on Nov 12, 2022 17:11:21 GMT
I'm tired of hearing it too, but the club has shown one talent - putting us exactly where we are right now. Needing a rebuild after holding onto MON way too long. Now AN is dealing with MON's players, some of whom are League 1 at best. I don't think anybody else wants some of these people! It's on an endless loop. Happy Groundhog Day!
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:13:26 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 12, 2022 17:13:26 GMT
Interesting that Corberan and Carrick have hit the ground running at West Brom and Boro Meanwhile we continue as we were, same old, same old Fed up with it Two people our board would never consider. Give them a choice of those two and Neil and they'd pick Neil.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 12, 2022 17:14:32 GMT
I'm expecting to see some head scratching in the post match interview.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 12, 2022 17:15:18 GMT
Glad my stream service failed today - Neil wasn’t my choice as I suspected it’d be more of the same and I’m not wrong thus far - but I’d be more than happy for him to prove otherwise.
Whatever the calibre of players at his disposal a decent manager should, at the very least, generate some spirit, fight and pride. No one minds losing if we’ve really given it a bloody good go but the players are just not responding - WHY?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 12, 2022 17:15:32 GMT
The owners are to blame. Not the manager. Recruitment has been shit for 7 years. Relentlessly shit and they should back their managers and pay for some proper players, not has beens We spunk our money on has beens. It pre dates any manager I can think of. It's the Stoke way.
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Post by spikey2972 on Nov 12, 2022 17:16:04 GMT
somebody on radio stoke says" has alex neil improved the side " is he taking the piss ,neil is no better than o'neil, jones and all the other toss managers we have had since mark hughes was manager.the team is just full of has been players and loan players who are only here for an easy payday.there's no passion or work ethic in this shower of shit team.
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:16:45 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 12, 2022 17:16:45 GMT
We can't really blame the manager for the crap he's got to work with but he's not helping himself going with three centre backs.
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:18:04 GMT
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Post by Royal Donut on Nov 12, 2022 17:18:04 GMT
Unfortunately you can only tweak certain parts of the game with the little time he's had, always planing for the next game, at most been a week apart. For me I will make a better assessment after this break, even if its bits of improvement a shape and some sort of playing style.
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:19:42 GMT
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Post by milky on Nov 12, 2022 17:19:42 GMT
I think the 4 week break has fell just right for AN as I could see him soon heading towards either a total Rowett meltdown or a Jones style breakdown.
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:20:11 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Nov 12, 2022 17:20:11 GMT
Interesting that Corberan and Carrick have hit the ground running at West Brom and Boro Meanwhile we continue as we were, same old, same old Fed up with it Two people our board would never consider. Give them a choice of those two and Neil and they'd pick Neil. Corberan and has had 1 good season with Huddersfield. Carrick has 2 or 3 games under his belt..far to early to be holding him up as quality manager.. What's clear is these players aren't good enough ability or mentally wise.. maybe with all this player power they don't like the rollickings I'm sure they've been getting from Neil, and they've decided they ain't gonna play for him.. Stick with Neil, get his players in and these existing players out the door ASAP.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 12, 2022 17:22:20 GMT
Interesting that Corberan and Carrick have hit the ground running at West Brom and Boro Meanwhile we continue as we were, same old, same old Fed up with it Its was abjectly mediocre short sighted appointment and so it’s proving and we are stuck woht Humpty Dumpty for a while yet , of we the balls we say gives us your ticket for dubai back and we will go for something Different than death by a thousand smart arse press conferences , baffling selections and abject performances
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:22:27 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 12, 2022 17:22:27 GMT
Two people our board would never consider. Give them a choice of those two and Neil and they'd pick Neil. Corberan and has had 1 good season with Huddersfield. Carrick has 2 or 3 games under his belt..far to early to be holding him up as quality manager.. What's clear is these players aren't good enough ability or mentally wise.. maybe with all this player power they don't like the rollickings I'm sure they've been getting from Neil, and they've decided they ain't gonna play for him.. Stick with Neil, get his players in and these existing players out the door ASAP. Absolutely back him. You can't do anything else at this point.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 12, 2022 17:23:02 GMT
Backed every manager. Another lame excuse This I can't disagree with, they all had money to get players in even with FFP, the last bloke even had enough to waste 3.5mil on a player he didn't want. Given the thread is about Neil, it isn't correct that he's been backed as of yet, anyway. In fact I'd say the finger absolutely needs to be directed towards Jon Coates with respect to allowing a 'dead man walking' to begin a rebuild then bringing in Neil in the last week of the window.. hard to understand the thinking behind that but one can but assume it's representative of virtually no thinking at all.
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Alex neil
Nov 12, 2022 17:23:12 GMT
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Post by Block 26 on Nov 12, 2022 17:23:12 GMT
I didn’t want AN in the first place but now he’s here we have to back him. Yes he picks the team, but it’s not his team. He does need a couple of transfer windows. I think we should be looking at the players rather than the manager… 4 managers now is it? SCFC is the work place which pays good money & is so relaxed & laid back that it doesn’t matter how you perform. The club is/has been a shambles for years now.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 12, 2022 17:23:57 GMT
Interesting that Corberan and Carrick have hit the ground running at West Brom and Boro Meanwhile we continue as we were, same old, same old Fed up with it Two people our board would never consider. Give them a choice of those two and Neil and they'd pick Neil. I was quite keen for us to go for Carrick but I would doubt he ever entered the owners thinking Whether he’d have got a tune out of this squad is another matter
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Post by thevoid on Nov 12, 2022 17:24:21 GMT
Should have waited and got Wilder for free The bloke who Middlesbrough sacked when they were in the bottom three? Okay. He's on a par with what we have and wouldn't have cost a penny in compensation
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 12, 2022 17:24:52 GMT
Now would be the best time to sack him if the board were of a mind to do so…..
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 12, 2022 17:24:52 GMT
This I can't disagree with, they all had money to get players in even with FFP, the last bloke even had enough to waste 3.5mil on a player he didn't want. Given the thread is about Neil, it isn't correct that he's been backed as of yet, anyway. In fact I'd say the finger absolutely needs to be directed towards Jon Coates with respect to allowing a 'dead man walking' to begin a rebuild then bringing in Neil in the last week of the window.. hard to understand the thinking behind that but one can but assume it's representative of virtually no thinking at all. True but he doesnt pick the team , determine the selection or act like clough in his press conferences and perform like kamara in the dug out
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