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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 9, 2022 8:29:34 GMT
It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things Just sums up a fairly large proportion of our fanbase imho. What was difficult to understand? The Luton fans did exactly the same
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 9, 2022 8:30:25 GMT
Just sums up a fairly large proportion of our fanbase imho. What was difficult to understand? The Luton fans did exactly the same Oh, that makes it alright then.
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Post by werrington on Nov 9, 2022 8:32:03 GMT
It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things Just sums up a fairly large proportion of our fanbase imho. What was difficult to understand? Was it really that bad in all honesty and worthy of all this? Seriously mate I’m leaving it here as it’s a nothing issue
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 9, 2022 8:32:03 GMT
The Luton fans did exactly the same Oh, that makes it alright then. Did I say that🤔I heard the instructions like you’ve mentioned and it was unfortunate what happened but to slag thousands of fans off for it is way OTT for me
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 9, 2022 8:58:55 GMT
It was poorly handled by Steve Buxton, who needs to shoulder his part of it. He announced it as a 'period of reflection' after the last post finished.
Why not just say a minutes silence?
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 9, 2022 9:08:35 GMT
It was poorly handled by Steve Buxton, who needs to shoulder his part of it. He announced it as a 'period of reflection' after the last post finished. Why not just say a minutes silence? Probably some ridiculous form of wokeness they used the same term for the 8PM minutes silence on that Sunday for the Queen.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2022 9:14:08 GMT
Still the lack of ability to follow basic instruction was/is amusing and there was a lot of gggggoooooaaaaarrrrrnssssss for it to be just clapping the bugle player. It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things Nobody is saying it was malicious just utterly stupid.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2022 9:15:11 GMT
It was poorly handled by Steve Buxton, who needs to shoulder his part of it. He announced it as a 'period of reflection' after the last post finished. Why not just say a minutes silence? Probably some ridiculous form of wokeness they used the same term for the 8PM minutes silence on that Sunday for the Queen. Isn’t it said because over the years people have started to clap for stuff like this?
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 9, 2022 9:24:28 GMT
It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things Nobody is saying it was malicious just utterly stupid. Exactly wasn't malicious they soon shut up when they realised they should be silent. It probably sums up the mentality of football fans who either didn't listen to the information or didn't understand that reflection means quiet thinking. It is a term used nowadays I would imagine for people who want to think about something else in that minute rather than the soldiers etc who have died for their country a la James McLean.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Nov 9, 2022 9:40:13 GMT
It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things Just sums up a fairly large proportion of our fanbase imho. What was difficult to understand? Possibly because the announcer said "followed by a period of reflection" rather than "followed by a minutes silence"
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 9, 2022 9:45:30 GMT
The crowd may have been poor but there's a fairly large proportion who are thick as fuck, cheering after the referee's whistle to start the minutes silence after the announcer had clearly stated it would commence on the ref's whistle after the rendition of the last post. I fucking despair at our fanbase at times, utterly embarrassing. It was a strange way to do it. Why not have the minutes silence, then the tune then the cheer?
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 9, 2022 9:57:56 GMT
Just sums up a fairly large proportion of our fanbase imho. What was difficult to understand? Possibly because the announcer said "followed by a period of reflection" rather than "followed by a minutes silence" Did they all shout gooooarn and clap on this day too? National Moment of Reflection
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Post by ethers26 on Nov 9, 2022 10:06:50 GMT
Not saying fans don't pay their own money and can do what they want, and I get the 'players have to give fans something to shout about', but how much do we think our shit home atmosphere impacts our home form?
It's been shit for 2-3 years now, and so has our form by and large
It's always so tetchy - players get crucified the second they misplace a pass etc.
Chicken and egg situation really, either players need to play out of their skin, or the fans need to bite the bullet and sing up (positively) a bit more.
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Post by ethers26 on Nov 9, 2022 10:08:22 GMT
Yes really Why is this such a difficult concept? Mate I’ve hardly missed a home game at the Brit/Bet365 and never ever was there 18,000 in that ground tonight You'd never have known there was a game on driving past the stadium
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 9, 2022 10:09:04 GMT
Not saying fans don't pay their own money and can do what they want, and I get the 'players have to give fans something to shout about', but how much do we think our shit home atmosphere impacts our home form? It's been shit for 2-3 years now, and so has our form by and large It's always so tetchy - players get crucified the second they misplace a pass etc. Chicken and egg situation really, either players need to play out of their skin, or the fans need to bite the bullet and sing up (positively) a bit more. Alex Neil answered this the other day, he said if the players can't deal with the pressure of playing at home for this football club, they shouldn't be at this football club. I do sometimes cringe at the fact that every misplaced pass is met with moans and groans but when we've been this shit, for this long I can understand it at the same time.
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Post by femark on Nov 9, 2022 10:15:34 GMT
Still the lack of ability to follow basic instruction was/is amusing and there was a lot of gggggoooooaaaaarrrrrnssssss for it to be just clapping the bugle player. It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things I have to agree with Bayern, it's bloody frustrating that people can't follow a simple instruction. "There will be a minutes silence on the referees whistle, after the last post."
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Post by femark on Nov 9, 2022 10:20:15 GMT
The crowd may have been poor but there's a fairly large proportion who are thick as fuck, cheering after the referee's whistle to start the minutes silence after the announcer had clearly stated it would commence on the ref's whistle after the rendition of the last post. I fucking despair at our fanbase at times, utterly embarrassing. It was a strange way to do it. Why not have the minutes silence, then the tune then the cheer? It has always been the last post, followed by a minutes silence. The silence is supposed to end with the rouse/reveille.
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Post by jhtstokie on Nov 9, 2022 10:20:27 GMT
We say we need a good performance on the pitch to get the crowd going… well come on. 2-0 up. Sticking it to Nathan Jones. Battling performance. Only wish the crowd matched what was on the pitch today. Personally I thought it was fantastic seeing that jumped up nobhead getting a load of stick tbf.
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 9, 2022 10:26:55 GMT
Still the lack of ability to follow basic instruction was/is amusing and there was a lot of gggggoooooaaaaarrrrrnssssss for it to be just clapping the bugle player. It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things Yes, why didn't the ref just start a minute's silence as soon as the bugler stopped playing and not blow the whistle until it was over? People who may have not heard the Tanoy as a lot were still coming in, night matches are a pain and time is of the essence to get in, and we were coming up the stairs as the bugler started so wasn't aware of the whistle then a minute's silence.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 9, 2022 10:33:12 GMT
It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things Yes, why didn't the ref just start a minute's silence as soon as the bugler stopped playing and not blow the whistle until it was over? People who may have not heard the Tanoy as a lot were still coming in, night matches are a pain and time is of the essence to get in, and we were coming up the stairs as the bugler started so wasn't aware of the whistle then a minute's silence. That's a fair point, just start the minutes silence automatically following on from the last post and then blow the whistle to signify the end of the silence. It's not fucking rocket science, we've been doing it for umpteen years and ballsed it up on many of those occasions. Anyone remember the big flag fiasco?
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Post by werrington on Nov 9, 2022 10:38:08 GMT
It was a strange way to do it. Why not have the minutes silence, then the tune then the cheer? It has always been the last post, followed by a minutes silence. The silence is supposed to end with the rouse/reveille. Pretty sure it’s always been the opposite way round ….minutes silence then last post
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 9, 2022 11:13:28 GMT
Back of the south left to back of the Boothen left, probably nearer 0.5 seconds which would stand out. can you time half a second? Its F1 stuff Not true at all. A half second is a huge amount in term of sound. Ask any sound engineer at a big concert. Every delay speaker is timed back to the source. Usually the snare
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 9, 2022 11:24:08 GMT
There’s plenty of examples of the silence and then the last post at football matches
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 9, 2022 11:28:53 GMT
It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things I have to agree with Bayern, it's bloody frustrating that people can't follow a simple instruction. "There will be a minutes silence on the referees whistle, after the last post." It's like they died for nothing.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 9, 2022 11:36:48 GMT
I understand it’s a mid week game. But 2-0 up in the first 15 mins Beating Nathan jones who we all agree is a wanker…. Yet we could barely muster a song.. a half hearted rendition of Delilah appeared in the second half that died out as soon as it began. When we did get a song going it’s so disjointed - the south stand starts, the boothen starts 5 seconds later with an echo… I never know which ear to join in with left or right. It was pretty embarrassing that the loudest song we sang was “how shit must you be we’re winning at home. ” which whilst it’s all good fun is pretty crap it’s the loudest song … We say we need a good performance on the pitch to get the crowd going… well come on. 2-0 up. Sticking it to Nathan Jones. Battling performance. Only wish the crowd matched what was on the pitch today. You do realise not everyone who goes to the football wants to sing and jump about even when it's good and last night was not a good game.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 9, 2022 11:38:17 GMT
there were over 18,000 tickets scanned on the night. So there was definitely 18,000 in attendance That’s utter bollocks I’m sorry. It’s tickets sold not attendees it’s as plain as the nose on your face. There was no more than 14,000 fans physically in the ground tonight….. Which would be at least 6000 more than our home performances merit.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 9, 2022 11:41:27 GMT
It was poorly handled by Steve Buxton, who needs to shoulder his part of it. He announced it as a 'period of reflection' after the last post finished. Why not just say a minutes silence? Just that I clapped after the last post as did loads of others. It's poor communication of what was expected and certainly no disrespect of the rememberance.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 9, 2022 11:43:51 GMT
It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things I have to agree with Bayern, it's bloody frustrating that people can't follow a simple instruction. "There will be a minutes silence on the referees whistle, after the last post." Problem is they never said a minutes silence they said a moments reflection. Sorry if many of us misunderstood.
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 9, 2022 11:53:59 GMT
Crowd is always poor. It began after the first couple of years in the Premier League.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Nov 9, 2022 12:12:22 GMT
It wasn’t malicious Bayern and it done with good intentions and was followed immaculately Sometimes people just want to see an issue with things Just sums up a fairly large proportion of our fanbase imho. What was difficult to understand? Sam Matterface did exactly the same on the ITV4 Ipswich game on Monday night. Guess he's a Stoke fan?
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