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Post by pistol on Nov 5, 2022 23:24:23 GMT
Balls on plinths for the refs as they come out. Multi-ball system round the pitch. VAR.
Load of shit
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Post by RonnieStokie on Nov 5, 2022 23:39:03 GMT
Plenty of good football out there to be enjoyed, even far down the pyramid.
I've barely watched Premier League football on TV since we got relegated. I've found a new found enjoyment of going and watching random non league football when it doesn't clash with Stoke.
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Post by danceswithclams on Nov 5, 2022 23:41:49 GMT
Leeds United with their stupid sock tags eh?
And what does that Alan Ball think he's doing playing in a World Cup wearing white boots?
And this new allowing of a substitute?
Dickie Roos would be spinning in his grave.
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Post by werrington on Nov 5, 2022 23:50:20 GMT
Oh for Stoke to start winning again
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 1:05:46 GMT
Watching the C League you realise how European football is light years ahead of how it was in say the 80s.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 6, 2022 8:28:18 GMT
Yesterday watched Dereham town away at Halesowen
A few of us supporters left on the players coach just after nine
Got there just after one off to the bar near the ground
Few pints then into the ground in to the clubhouse few more ales
Sausage bap Kermit’s finger had seen more pork
cup of bovril
One down after two minutes three down after thirty
Attempted to out sing home support like knitting fog they were superb
Second half played better conceded a fourth back in the bar afterwards quick pint before getting on the coach
Back around nine
Twelve hour trip four nil defeat gut full of ale a singsong dodgy food a good piss take
There’s life in football yet you’ve just got to search a bit
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on Nov 6, 2022 8:51:45 GMT
My biggest gripe is the cheating, and the reality that we might well embrace the dark arts, and how I hope we do.
The time wasting, the head injuries that aren’t head injuries, the stopping the flow of the game…
… add that to the perceived lack of character from our lot
…add to that the money they are on
But as I say, if we became Bournemouth overnight and it worked, I’d be right behind them probably, but I justify that, as I imagine all fans do, with how it feels like we’ve lost so much to this.
I’ll still go though like
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 6, 2022 8:55:27 GMT
Refereeing annoys me. The standard is just dropping like a stone.
The guy yesterday was absolutely atrocious and somehow contrived to make a poor game even worse.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 6, 2022 8:55:51 GMT
Watching our games in the Championship is really not a result of loving football, because way too many game is about winding the clock down. At every set piece the ball is kicked away, a player on the opposite team is standing in front of the ball, using at least 45 seconds at every throw-in and corner kick, and in addition simulate an injury in every situation when you are in the lead. Even if you have an hour left of the game as well! The refs in this division are way too weak and inconsistent, and why there isn't a stricter line when it comes to this ruins too many games for me. I watch it just because Stoke is playing at the moment, and hardly watch any other Championship games at all. Something needs to be done about the things I mention. I actually think players faking head injuries should be banned for the next game retrospectively. Yellow cards should be given every time a player kicks the ball away after a decision is given, and the same goes for standing in the way so the free kick can't be taken quickly. There hardly are any flowing games any longer, and way too many annoying factors!  |
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Post by mr on Nov 6, 2022 9:03:48 GMT
Watching our games in the Championship is really not a result of loving football, because way too many game is about winding the clock down. At every set piece the ball is kicked away, a player on the opposite team is standing in front of the ball, using at least 45 seconds at every throw-in and corner kick, and in addition simulate an injury in every situation when you are in the lead. Even if you have an hour left of the game as well! The refs in this division are way too weak and inconsistent, and why there isn't a stricter line when it comes to this ruins too many games for me. I watch it just because Stoke is playing at the moment, and hardly watch any other Championship games at all. Something needs to be done about the things I mention. I actually think players faking head injuries should be banned for the next game retrospectively. Yellow cards should be given every time a player kicks the ball away after a decision is given, and the same goes for standing in the way so the free kick can't be taken quickly. There hardly are any flowing games any longer, and way too many annoying factors! The time wasting is really starting to put me off football and for me something needs to change fast. I can usually watch football (except Stoke games) without being frustrated but when you start seeing all the shitty tactics to waste time from the 10th minute it’s ridiculous, there’s no way people want to see that crap. |
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on Nov 6, 2022 9:40:13 GMT
And yet their wages are such off the back of football being a spectacle that people want to watch.
It’s one thing if you watch a game on telly as a neutral snd see some drama, or even seeing a team you dislike take a beating…
But for me, the days of paying good money to see players who do not wish to be involved in an actual game, have to be numbered.
I’ll still go 😬
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 6, 2022 10:11:53 GMT
I'd say it's not even football, it's just this shite division. It really is the worst division in the world.
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Post by adamsson on Nov 6, 2022 10:23:51 GMT
I'd say it's not even football, it's just this shite division. It really is the worst division in the world. Wait until you see league 1 next year Losing home and away to Port Vale  It can get worse and it will. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 10:28:39 GMT
Watching our games in the Championship is really not a result of loving football, because way too many game is about winding the clock down. At every set piece the ball is kicked away, a player on the opposite team is standing in front of the ball, using at least 45 seconds at every throw-in and corner kick, and in addition simulate an injury in every situation when you are in the lead. Even if you have an hour left of the game as well! The refs in this division are way too weak and inconsistent, and why there isn't a stricter line when it comes to this ruins too many games for me. I watch it just because Stoke is playing at the moment, and hardly watch any other Championship games at all. Something needs to be done about the things I mention. I actually think players faking head injuries should be banned for the next game retrospectively. Yellow cards should be given every time a player kicks the ball away after a decision is given, and the same goes for standing in the way so the free kick can't be taken quickly. There hardly are any flowing games any longer, and way too many annoying factors! The time wasting is really starting to put me off football and for me something needs to change fast. I can usually watch football (except Stoke games) without being frustrated but when you start seeing all the shitty tactics to waste time from the 10th minute it’s ridiculous, there’s no way people want to see that crap. Hardly a new thing. European and National sides were masters at it when was a kid and rarely added back on. This myth that old football was great. The Championship now isn't much better than most top flight games growing up. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 10:55:54 GMT
They introduced VAR now they need to introduce an independent time keeper.
Or maybe it has creeped in because of the pace of the game the players need these mental concentration breaks in play.
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Post by sportsman on Nov 6, 2022 10:59:28 GMT
Other than watching stoke at the ground the last full 90 minutes of football I watched on TV was England euro final.
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Post by ravey123 on Nov 6, 2022 11:47:46 GMT
Refereeing annoys me. The standard is just dropping like a stone. The guy yesterday was absolutely atrocious and somehow contrived to make a poor game even worse. Seen no comment on the Stoke mfree kick that the Brum player just stood infront of. Ref told us to take the free kick, it hits the Brum player less than a foot away and he gives us a throw in - it’s bloody obstruction man and should be a booking and re-taken free kick |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 6, 2022 11:51:51 GMT
I've been asking myself whether I've grown up and maybe grown out of football, or if it's just modern football.
I love watching old games though. 90s, early 00s, the better years of our Premiership journey. I definitely enjoy watching football.
The current brand of football though.... Not so much. I feel like we're going through the dark days of forgettable uninspiring throwaway football. Where the games (on average) have around 64 mins of actual football played due to time wasting and false injuries etc.
It's like we've swapped a prime steak for a McDonald's hamburger.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 6, 2022 12:21:05 GMT
Watching our games in the Championship is really not a result of loving football, because way too many game is about winding the clock down. At every set piece the ball is kicked away, a player on the opposite team is standing in front of the ball, using at least 45 seconds at every throw-in and corner kick, and in addition simulate an injury in every situation when you are in the lead. Even if you have an hour left of the game as well! The refs in this division are way too weak and inconsistent, and why there isn't a stricter line when it comes to this ruins too many games for me. I watch it just because Stoke is playing at the moment, and hardly watch any other Championship games at all. Something needs to be done about the things I mention. I actually think players faking head injuries should be banned for the next game retrospectively. Yellow cards should be given every time a player kicks the ball away after a decision is given, and the same goes for standing in the way so the free kick can't be taken quickly. There hardly are any flowing games any longer, and way too many annoying factors! The time wasting is really starting to put me off football and for me something needs to change fast. I can usually watch football (except Stoke games) without being frustrated but when you start seeing all the shitty tactics to waste time from the 10th minute it’s ridiculous, there’s no way people want to see that crap. Time wasting is good when we dk it. When other teams do it it's shit |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 12:57:28 GMT
I've been asking myself whether I've grown up and maybe grown out of football, or if it's just modern football. I love watching old games though. 90s, early 00s, the better years of our Premiership journey. I definitely enjoy watching football. The current brand of football though.... Not so much. I feel like we're going through the dark days of forgettable uninspiring throwaway football. Where the games (on average) have around 64 mins of actual football played due to time wasting and false injuries etc. It's like we've swapped a prime steak for a McDonald's hamburger. Ooh I’m not so sure, 1-0 to the Arsenal and their offside trap. Liverpool, Grobelaar to Hansen to Lawrence to Grobelaar. I’m pretty sure the back pass rule put them into decline for a good twenty years, their whole philosphy was built on the back pass. |
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 6, 2022 13:07:25 GMT
The time wasting is really starting to put me off football and for me something needs to change fast. I can usually watch football (except Stoke games) without being frustrated but when you start seeing all the shitty tactics to waste time from the 10th minute it’s ridiculous, there’s no way people want to see that crap. Time wasting is good when we dk it. When other teams do it it's shit It's not. It's shit and it's killing the game as a spectacle. Referees are spineless cunts who won't enforce the rules. It needs a massive overhaul with a timekeeper and a clock that gives you 'x' seconds to use it or lose it. |
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 6, 2022 13:11:10 GMT
I've been asking myself whether I've grown up and maybe grown out of football, or if it's just modern football. I love watching old games though. 90s, early 00s, the better years of our Premiership journey. I definitely enjoy watching football. The current brand of football though.... Not so much. I feel like we're going through the dark days of forgettable uninspiring throwaway football. Where the games (on average) have around 64 mins of actual football played due to time wasting and false injuries etc. It's like we've swapped a prime steak for a McDonald's hamburger. Ooh I’m not so sure, 1-0 to the Arsenal and their offside trap. Liverpool, Grobelaar to Hansen to Lawrence to Grobelaar. I’m pretty sure the back pass rule put them into decline for a good twenty years, their whole philosphy was built on the back pass. Backpassing was killing the game so they legislated. Blatantly shit refereeing was killing it so they brought in var (but gave it the same wank referees to oversee with predictable results) Time wasting is the next one they need to legislate against. Take it out of the hands of referees who can't even do the resto of their remit properly. The sight of that cunt Ruddy running to the halfway line to high 5 a sub going off and the referee stood there as if it was normal was fucking surreal. |
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Post by gogogadget on Nov 6, 2022 13:20:12 GMT
Watching our games in the Championship is really not a result of loving football, because way too many game is about winding the clock down. At every set piece the ball is kicked away, a player on the opposite team is standing in front of the ball, using at least 45 seconds at every throw-in and corner kick, and in addition simulate an injury in every situation when you are in the lead. Even if you have an hour left of the game as well! The refs in this division are way too weak and inconsistent, and why there isn't a stricter line when it comes to this ruins too many games for me. I watch it just because Stoke is playing at the moment, and hardly watch any other Championship games at all. Something needs to be done about the things I mention. I actually think players faking head injuries should be banned for the next game retrospectively. Yellow cards should be given every time a player kicks the ball away after a decision is given, and the same goes for standing in the way so the free kick can't be taken quickly. There hardly are any flowing games any longer, and way too many annoying factors! The time wasting seems to be getting worse. It’s infuriating to watch, if only they would have a clock that’s stops as soon as the ball goes out, or play is stopped for a player that’s gone down injured. |
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Post by dirtclod on Nov 6, 2022 13:36:13 GMT
Watching Wrexham v. Oldham in the FA cup match.
2-0 Wrexham first half - I think they could beat us, the way we're playing right now.
There's actually completed passes to teammates and crazy stuff like that going on.
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 6, 2022 13:50:00 GMT
Watching our games in the Championship is really not a result of loving football, because way too many game is about winding the clock down. At every set piece the ball is kicked away, a player on the opposite team is standing in front of the ball, using at least 45 seconds at every throw-in and corner kick, and in addition simulate an injury in every situation when you are in the lead. Even if you have an hour left of the game as well! The refs in this division are way too weak and inconsistent, and why there isn't a stricter line when it comes to this ruins too many games for me. I watch it just because Stoke is playing at the moment, and hardly watch any other Championship games at all. Something needs to be done about the things I mention. I actually think players faking head injuries should be banned for the next game retrospectively. Yellow cards should be given every time a player kicks the ball away after a decision is given, and the same goes for standing in the way so the free kick can't be taken quickly. There hardly are any flowing games any longer, and way too many annoying factors! The time wasting seems to be getting worse. It’s infuriating to watch, if only they would have a clock that’s stops as soon as the ball goes out, or play is stopped for a player that’s gone down injured. It is getting worse because it works and referees ignore it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 14:05:44 GMT
I think the referees cannot keep up with the pace of the game and need that mental break to plus they need to be nearly as physically fit as the players.
The game has been pushed to breaking point.
Maybe we need twenty mins of constant play then a five minute in pitch break. Twenty mins of constant play then a fifteen minute changing room break.
Change ends and the same process, twenty mins then a five min pitch break and final whistle plus extra time.
Maybe the ref can be swapped with one who does the scoreboard thingmibob. So we are not burning them out during a game.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Nov 6, 2022 14:11:24 GMT
It's infuriating the blatent and that's what it is time wasting by players from the kicking the ball away to players standing to take a free kick for 30/45 seconds to then walk away and let a player who is on the other side of pitch amble over yo take it, substitutes not going off at the nearest point and still walking across the pitch even in front of the incompetent referees, and corners not being in the quadrant as seen yesterday, pissing me off.
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Post by gogogadget on Nov 6, 2022 14:12:27 GMT
The time wasting seems to be getting worse. It’s infuriating to watch, if only they would have a clock that’s stops as soon as the ball goes out, or play is stopped for a player that’s gone down injured. It is getting worse because it works and referees ignore it. Definitely There keeper yesterday was having the time of life taking the piss. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Nov 6, 2022 14:17:28 GMT
My biggest gripe is the cheating, and the reality that we might well embrace the dark arts, and how I hope we do. The time wasting, the head injuries that aren’t head injuries, the stopping the flow of the game… … add that to the perceived lack of character from our lot …add to that the money they are on But as I say, if we became Bournemouth overnight and it worked, I’d be right behind them probably, but I justify that, as I imagine all fans do, with how it feels like we’ve lost so much to this. I’ll still go though like We've got to have a lead first!.😉 |
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Post by Bagwash on Nov 6, 2022 14:24:15 GMT
Watching our games in the Championship is really not a result of loving football, because way too many game is about winding the clock down. At every set piece the ball is kicked away, a player on the opposite team is standing in front of the ball, using at least 45 seconds at every throw-in and corner kick, and in addition simulate an injury in every situation when you are in the lead. Even if you have an hour left of the game as well! The refs in this division are way too weak and inconsistent, and why there isn't a stricter line when it comes to this ruins too many games for me. I watch it just because Stoke is playing at the moment, and hardly watch any other Championship games at all. Something needs to be done about the things I mention. I actually think players faking head injuries should be banned for the next game retrospectively. Yellow cards should be given every time a player kicks the ball away after a decision is given, and the same goes for standing in the way so the free kick can't be taken quickly. There hardly are any flowing games any longer, and way too many annoying factors! The time wasting seems to be getting worse. It’s infuriating to watch, if only they would have a clock that’s stops as soon as the ball goes out, or play is stopped for a player that’s gone down injured. Should have been brought in years ago.Think they use this in Rugby if I'm not mistaken. |
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