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Post by scfc1863 on Oct 31, 2022 22:07:45 GMT
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Oct 31, 2022 22:21:28 GMT
They’ll be banning gobbing at the wolves next 🤷♂️
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Post by marylandstoke on Oct 31, 2022 22:23:01 GMT
Who would have thought that that seating arrangement could possibly have caused problems?
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Post by Block 26 on Oct 31, 2022 22:24:14 GMT
I don’t understand how this will work. I would imagine that a lot of fans will have change in their pocket when going into the ground which will cause even more agro when the stewards try to take it off them.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Oct 31, 2022 23:11:09 GMT
Next time I see a Sunderland fan I'll ask "A penny for your thoughts?"
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Oct 31, 2022 23:12:13 GMT
It's the last time a Sunderland fan gives their 2 cents.
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2022 5:44:33 GMT
I don’t understand how this will work. I would imagine that a lot of fans will have change in their pocket when going into the ground which will cause even more agro when the stewards try to take it off them. It won’t work and can’t be allowed to work What they are doing is technically illegal
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2022 5:49:57 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Nov 1, 2022 7:35:08 GMT
Blunderland trying to lead the way to a cashless society!
So technically you can't take coins in with you but could use a tenner to buy a beer, tea or coffee at half time but they won't be able to give you any change, 🤔😲?!
It sounds like one of them things that has been ill thought out & now its been highlighted will just get abused more so than if they'd not broadcasted the issue at all! Huge potential own goal! If folk can smuggle the pyro's into matches despite security checks, a few 50p's won't be an issue!
That's the coach drivers out of luck with the brown envelope of appreciation on the way back from away games!
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Post by Veritas on Nov 1, 2022 7:48:19 GMT
I don’t understand how this will work. I would imagine that a lot of fans will have change in their pocket when going into the ground which will cause even more agro when the stewards try to take it off them. It won’t work and can’t be allowed to work What they are doing is technically illegal I agree I can't see this working, but how exactly is it illegal? It is standard at every ground to see a list of items not allowed.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 1, 2022 8:02:52 GMT
With inflation it will be notes next on the list.
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2022 8:13:29 GMT
It won’t work and can’t be allowed to work What they are doing is technically illegal I agree I can't see this working, but how exactly is it illegal? It is standard at every ground to see a list of items not allowed. People need money so it can’t be taken off them ….Anything else then maybe If it’s challenged in a court it will be deemed illegal and technically theft
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Post by haway on Nov 1, 2022 8:19:19 GMT
I agree I can't see this working, but how exactly is it illegal? It is standard at every ground to see a list of items not allowed. People need money so it can’t be taken off them ….Anything else then maybe If it’s challenged in a court it will be deemed illegal and technically theft Think it’ll be the EFL in bother if it went that far, and not the club. We made the request to the EFL, and they’ve granted it. Surprised it was accepted though.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 1, 2022 8:23:22 GMT
Is this even legal, I’d have serious doubts.
Stupid idea, I’ll just throw my shoe instead…
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2022 8:37:57 GMT
People need money so it can’t be taken off them ….Anything else then maybe If it’s challenged in a court it will be deemed illegal and technically theft Think it’ll be the EFL in bother if it went that far, and not the club. We made the request to the EFL, and they’ve granted it. Surprised it was accepted though. It will be both as Sunderland requested it It’s actually fucking heinous, good luck taking it off women, children and pensioners who offer no threat It’s immoral and degrading, shame on both and thankfully there’s Sunderland fans condemning it
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Post by haway on Nov 1, 2022 8:49:14 GMT
Think it’ll be the EFL in bother if it went that far, and not the club. We made the request to the EFL, and they’ve granted it. Surprised it was accepted though. It will be both as Sunderland requested it It’s actually fucking heinous, good luck taking it off women, children and pensioners who offer no threat It’s immoral and degrading, shame on both and thankfully there’s Sunderland fans condemning it Can see this being fast tracked to a different solution after the Cardiff game, more than likely moving the away fans to a different part of the stadium whilst the World Cup break is on. We only have 1 home game before then so that one will be a shambles to steward and police. No idea what the club were thinking in requesting it, and no idea what the EFL were thinking in accepting it. Both home fans and away fans think this solution is stupid, so the club and EFL will sharply back track after this weekend I think.
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Post by franklin on Nov 1, 2022 8:53:28 GMT
I agree I can't see this working, but how exactly is it illegal? It is standard at every ground to see a list of items not allowed. People need money so it can’t be taken off them ….Anything else then maybe If it’s challenged in a court it will be deemed illegal and technically theft Terms and conditions of entry you know you can't bring them in so bin them and get in or don't go in but it'll be incredibly difficult to search people in large numbers so it won't work imho.
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2022 9:01:05 GMT
People need money so it can’t be taken off them ….Anything else then maybe If it’s challenged in a court it will be deemed illegal and technically theft Terms and conditions of entry you know you can't bring them in so bin them and get in or don't go in but it'll be incredibly difficult to search people in large numbers so it won't work imho. There’s people who only deal in cash mate and not card and there’s businesses who only deal in cash so if they buy something prior to the match they’ll be given change It’s unworkable
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Post by franklin on Nov 1, 2022 9:02:47 GMT
Terms and conditions of entry you know you can't bring them in so bin them and get in or don't go in but it'll be incredibly difficult to search people in large numbers so it won't work imho. There’s people who only deal in cash mate and not card and there’s businesses who only deal in cash so if they buy something prior to the match they’ll be given change It’s unworkable I agree it won't work but that's how they appear to have dressed it up as conditions of entry.
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Post by Veritas on Nov 1, 2022 9:07:50 GMT
I agree I can't see this working, but how exactly is it illegal? It is standard at every ground to see a list of items not allowed. People need money so it can’t be taken off them ….Anything else then maybe If it’s challenged in a court it will be deemed illegal and technically theft No it won't. If you turn up somewhere with a banned item, booze at a test match for instance, you have a choice hand it over or no admittance. This isn't theft it is a condition of entry and has been in place for ages across widespread venues.
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Post by theglove on Nov 1, 2022 9:09:18 GMT
the WEF get their cashless society and Raschid Sinook gets his digital ID
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2022 9:10:34 GMT
People need money so it can’t be taken off them ….Anything else then maybe If it’s challenged in a court it will be deemed illegal and technically theft No it won't. If you turn up somewhere with a banned item, booze at a test match for instance, you have a choice hand it over or no admittance. This isn't theft it is a condition of entry and has been in place for ages across widespread venues. Cash is different to alcohol etc You have a choice with other things but not cash
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Post by Veritas on Nov 1, 2022 9:11:17 GMT
No it won't. If you turn up somewhere with a banned item, booze at a test match for instance, you have a choice hand it over or no admittance. This isn't theft it is a condition of entry and has been in place for ages across widespread venues. Cash is different to alcohol etc No it isn't
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2022 9:14:23 GMT
Cash is different to alcohol etc No it isn't It certainly is So if you buy your kids some sweets for the match and you get change off the shopkeepers you think it’s acceptable for somebody just to take it off you 5 minutes later? Alcohol etc are different things altogether
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Post by Veritas on Nov 1, 2022 9:18:19 GMT
It certainly is So if you buy your kids some sweets for the match and you get change off the shopkeepers you think it’s acceptable for somebody just to take it off you 5 minutes later? Alcohol etc are different things altogether Whether I agree with it ir not or whether it is enforceable or not is irrelevant if it is a condition of entry it will not be illegal
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 1, 2022 9:51:08 GMT
It certainly is So if you buy your kids some sweets for the match and you get change off the shopkeepers you think it’s acceptable for somebody just to take it off you 5 minutes later? Alcohol etc are different things altogether Just give your kids the change and keep the sweets. Win win. 😉
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Post by Scouse on Nov 1, 2022 10:05:30 GMT
It certainly is So if you buy your kids some sweets for the match and you get change off the shopkeepers you think it’s acceptable for somebody just to take it off you 5 minutes later? Alcohol etc are different things altogether Just give your kids the change and keep the sweets. Win win. 😉 At this rate the poor kids are going to be laden down with more stuff than Sherpas on Everest .. They already carry the pyros and drinks with tops on and run on the pitch when their dads tell them .. now they’ll have to carry the groups vapes and all their shrapnel ( coins ) remembering who gave them what so when they hand it back they don’t give the pyro to the bloke with the vape ..and the vape to the pyro guy ..while ensuring the right denomination coins are given back to the coin chuckers and those who simply want it back to give the coach driver a tip
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Post by franklin on Nov 1, 2022 10:05:32 GMT
It certainly is So if you buy your kids some sweets for the match and you get change off the shopkeepers you think it’s acceptable for somebody just to take it off you 5 minutes later? Alcohol etc are different things altogether It's a choice they won't "take it off you" you have an option to hand it over and go in or keep your change and go home.
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2022 10:11:06 GMT
It certainly is So if you buy your kids some sweets for the match and you get change off the shopkeepers you think it’s acceptable for somebody just to take it off you 5 minutes later? Alcohol etc are different things altogether It's a choice they won't "take it off you" you have an option to hand it over and go in or keep your change and go home. So it’s acceptable to refuse admittance to a venue because they’ve got legal tender ( which they’ll need ) in their pocket? If it was alcohol, weapons etc then yeah but cash?….fuck me mate you’ll all be accepting handing your house and car keys over because are they not similar to a coin? The fact people are just accepting of this is very sad and above anything else very very worrying
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Post by superalexneil on Nov 1, 2022 10:15:13 GMT
i take £20 to the match,
buy a burger on the way £4, get £16 change which i will use for my taxi home, but hold on i only have £10 because sunderland took the other £6 i need? fucking bollocks!
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