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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2022 16:08:44 GMT
Just come out of the ground so frustrated yet again
Norwich did not have to play well to win that match and you can see why they’ve been on such a shit run.
Physicality is desperately missing and as soon as we concede the players heads went down yet again.
Also don’t get me started on Baker,he’s a pale shadow of the player he was with Allen alongside him and his set plays😡😡
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 29, 2022 16:10:34 GMT
We certainly didn't deserve to lose the match 3-1, if at all. That said, we need to get some points on the board pre the world cup break, none of the games up the then are looking at all easy.
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 29, 2022 16:10:59 GMT
Too many players in this side who are just happy to be playing, absolutely to hunger and desire to want to win games on a regular basis.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2022 16:12:02 GMT
Too many players in this side who are just happy to be playing, absolutely to hunger and desire to want to win games on a regular basis. Spot on mate and we’re far too nice as a team |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Oct 29, 2022 16:21:39 GMT
Too many players in this side who are just happy to be playing, absolutely to hunger and desire to want to win games on a regular basis. Spot on mate and we’re far too nice as a team It does seem that way. Like the manager’s have been telling the team it’s not their fault, you did your best, unlucky etc. There hasn’t been a decent standard of leadership at the club since the Shawcross/Huth/Whelan/Crouch days (not that you’d call Crouch a leader but I’m sure he’d have set high standards). We don’t seem to have as many wankers in the squad as we’ve had at times since that group but it is like the OP says, weak. |
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Post by milky on Oct 29, 2022 16:23:38 GMT
I still think it goes deeper and its the mentality of the club itself, just plodding along stuck in 2008.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 29, 2022 16:30:57 GMT
And Neil questions why we are negative as fans.
It's because we've had to deal with this shower for 5 consecutive years.
Don't forget, we know what a good side looks like as it wasn't so long ago we had one.
These lot are f*cking horsesh*t. Genuinely not far off the worst side we've had this century.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2022 16:47:19 GMT
And Neil questions why we are negative as fans. It's because we've had to deal with this shower for 5 consecutive years. Don't forget, we know what a good side looks like as it wasn't so long ago we had one. These lot are f*cking horsesh*t. Genuinely not far off the worst side we've had this century. They are individually decent players on their day but we’re not a TEAM. We have to get some physicality somehow into that team because there’s no threat whatsoever from the dreadful set plays.It’s such a fine margin in this league and set plays at least give you a chance |
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Post by liathroid on Oct 29, 2022 16:50:29 GMT
Just come out of the ground so frustrated yet again Norwich did not have to play well to win that match and you can see why they’ve been on such a shit run. Physicality is desperately missing and as soon as we concede the players heads went down yet again. Also don’t get me started on Baker,he’s a pale shadow of the player he was with Allen alongside him and his set plays😡😡 could you rate the players as you were at the game ,the old birds eye view is better than the telly |
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Post by milky on Oct 29, 2022 16:51:30 GMT
And Neil questions why we are negative as fans. It's because we've had to deal with this shower for 5 consecutive years. Don't forget, we know what a good side looks like as it wasn't so long ago we had one. These lot are f*cking horsesh*t. Genuinely not far off the worst side we've had this century. They are individually decent players on their day but we’re not a TEAM. We have to get some physicality somehow into that team because there’s no threat whatsoever from the dreadful set plays.It’s such a fine margin in this league and set plays at least give you a chance What I don't get is the likes of Josh Laurent is a big unit yet currently looks as physically intimidating as Charles Hawtrey |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2022 16:52:29 GMT
Just come out of the ground so frustrated yet again Norwich did not have to play well to win that match and you can see why they’ve been on such a shit run. Physicality is desperately missing and as soon as we concede the players heads went down yet again. Also don’t get me started on Baker,he’s a pale shadow of the player he was with Allen alongside him and his set plays😡😡 could you rate the players as you were at the game ,the old birds eye view is better than the telly Mate I can’t be arsed to be honest,I just need to have a few later and try and forget about it again |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2022 16:54:04 GMT
They are individually decent players on their day but we’re not a TEAM. We have to get some physicality somehow into that team because there’s no threat whatsoever from the dreadful set plays.It’s such a fine margin in this league and set plays at least give you a chance What I don't get is the likes of Josh Laurent is a big unit yet currently looks as physically intimidating as Charles Hawtrey I think there was one instance where one of their players just bounced off him but it’s few and far between for his size |
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Post by liathroid on Oct 29, 2022 16:56:02 GMT
could you rate the players as you were at the game ,the old birds eye view is better than the telly Mate I can’t be arsed to be honest,I just need to have a few later and try and forget about it again fair play , I am still having a few more and it doesn't get any better |
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Post by wuzza on Oct 29, 2022 17:00:19 GMT
I always get the feeling there is no real sense of purpose - just a general mood of ‘let’s see how it goes this week’ lads.
It’s a player thing and a management thing. Pulis ,and to an extent Hughes , put players out on the park with a real sense of direction , since then every week is just a total lottery.
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Post by magsbert on Oct 29, 2022 17:14:54 GMT
How many yellow cards did they get to up Break Stokes play.then subbed job done are boy’s get done over again
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Post by victoria on Oct 29, 2022 19:46:04 GMT
Ive said before , i remember Pulis shouting to shotton,pick up the ball and throw it.
I remember thinking omg. Pulis is and was right to support the players through the match. Giving direction to see the players through a match.
This is What missing. All of our players have ability and a talent in football eg passing the ball to a team mate.
How do you teach match management to players who are championship players for a reason. One skill or in experienced
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Post by werrington on Oct 29, 2022 19:49:05 GMT
Ive said before , i remember Pulis shouting to shotton,pick up the ball and throw it. I remember thinking omg. Pulis is and was right to support the players through the match. Giving direction to see the players through a match. This is What missing. All of our players have ability and a talent in football eg passing the ball to a team mate. How do you teach match management to players who are championship players for a reason. One skill or in experienced Seriously wtf have I just read here |
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Post by onepara on Oct 29, 2022 19:53:45 GMT
Just come out of the ground so frustrated yet again Norwich did not have to play well to win that match and you can see why they’ve been on such a shit run. Physicality is desperately missing and as soon as we concede the players heads went down yet again. Also don’t get me started on Baker,he’s a pale shadow of the player he was with Allen alongside him and his set plays😡😡 I said a while ago when Joe was getting flack, that he made Baker look better than he is. Joe won the ball & gave it to him. That's who we are missing. Someone with energy in midfield, & who can win the ball for him. It takes the pressure off. Plus, he's no Captain. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 29, 2022 20:05:01 GMT
Two words to sum up this team: soft underbelly!  |
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 29, 2022 20:06:38 GMT
Two words to sum up this team: soft underbelly! Powder Puffs (can I say that these days) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 20:09:27 GMT
Just come out of the ground so frustrated yet again Norwich did not have to play well to win that match and you can see why they’ve been on such a shit run. Physicality is desperately missing and as soon as we concede the players heads went down yet again. Also don’t get me started on Baker,he’s a pale shadow of the player he was with Allen alongside him and his set plays😡😡 I said a while ago when Joe was getting flack, that he made Baker look better than he is. Joe won the ball & gave it to him. That's who we are missing. Someone with energy in midfield, & who can win the ball for him. It takes the pressure off. Plus, he's no Captain. That can't be right. I was told th either day that Joe Allen is the worst midfielder in the modern day who has pulled on our shirt, and that Josh "definition of a nothing player" Laurent is the better player  |
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 29, 2022 20:13:32 GMT
I said a while ago when Joe was getting flack, that he made Baker look better than he is. Joe won the ball & gave it to him. That's who we are missing. Someone with energy in midfield, & who can win the ball for him. It takes the pressure off. Plus, he's no Captain. That can't be right. I was told th either day that Joe Allen is the worst midfielder in the modern day who has pulled on our shirt, and that Josh "definition of a nothing player" Laurent is the better player Allen was only mediocre, I actually think Thompson is better! He needs to play though to make us harder to beat!  |
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 29, 2022 20:18:16 GMT
That can't be right. I was told th either day that Joe Allen is the worst midfielder in the modern day who has pulled on our shirt, and that Josh "definition of a nothing player" Laurent is the better player Allen was only mediocre, I actually think Thompson is better! He needs to play though to make us harder to beat! People used to slag Whelan off. pity hes not playing now |
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Post by march4 on Oct 29, 2022 20:27:05 GMT
First half, I defended Bursik as I felt he wasn’t at fault for the first goal.
Second half, his brain seemed scrambled. He tried to punch a shot that was straight at him and the ball nearly looped over his shoulder. After that he was all over the place and I can’t defend his part in the second and third goals. He did make a couple of decent stops but the lad seems to be struggling.
Following the trauma the lad has suffered this past few months, this is a tricky situation for the manager.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 29, 2022 20:41:24 GMT
Most of our players are just happy to pick up their pay packets, knowing they won't get paid better anywhere else.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 29, 2022 20:45:45 GMT
I said a while ago when Joe was getting flack, that he made Baker look better than he is. Joe won the ball & gave it to him. That's who we are missing. Someone with energy in midfield, & who can win the ball for him. It takes the pressure off. Plus, he's no Captain. That can't be right. I was told th either day that Joe Allen is the worst midfielder in the modern day who has pulled on our shirt, and that Josh "definition of a nothing player" Laurent is the better player The we will be better without Allen crew decidedly quiet |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 20:48:56 GMT
That can't be right. I was told th either day that Joe Allen is the worst midfielder in the modern day who has pulled on our shirt, and that Josh "definition of a nothing player" Laurent is the better player The we will be better without Allen crew decidedly quiet Our midfield is definitely worse since we got rid of Joe Allen, that isn't even up for debate. That's not to say Joe Allen was a world beating midfielder, its just pointing out a fact. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 29, 2022 20:50:49 GMT
The we will be better without Allen crew decidedly quiet Our midfield is definitely worse since we got rid of Joe Allen, that isn't even up for debate. That's not to say Joe Allen was a world beating midfielder, its just pointing out a fact. Spot on its worse for snallboen for sawyers too its and so may times but he careful what you wish for gayle and delap interestingly have records far worse than Gregory fletcher and vokes staggering |
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Post by sevvy on Oct 29, 2022 20:53:07 GMT
We certainly didn't deserve to lose the match 3-1, if at all. That said, we need to get some points on the board pre the world cup break, none of the games up the then are looking at all easy. I agree with this, tin hat on but honestly thought 2-2 would've beeen a fair result as both teams were as good (or as bad) as each other. Also agree with Crouch that we are mentally and physically weak. Not sure how they went in 1-0 up, and they definitely improved after their 2nd. All their goals came from our mistakes, Baker for the first, Poor clearing header from Clarke? when he had time to bring the ball down for their second and DWP losing the ball cheaply near their goal ultimately led to their third. In between we had some good chances, a few half chances first half falling to the full backs, but notably Powell's free header at the far post, at 1-0 and also Brown (poor today I thought) had a chance from a narrow angle but shot into the side netting when across the keeper was the far better option. Could've got a rebound off their keeper etc as they did with two of their goals. Not seen replays but looked like Bursik made two decent saves at full stretch but they got to the loose ball first to score , as they often did in other areas of the field, we didn't win many 2nd balls. Gunn made a decent save too which led to a scramble that was cleared. Thought Delap should've come on earlier as the starting strikers were not really a match physically for Gibson and Hanley (is his head as fat as Bruce's?). Also I've never seen a team allow the opposition to 'creep' up on us from behind as us, so many times a 'man on' shout was definitely needed, think it was Fosu, twice and Laurent at least once today! You could see the pent up frustration in Powell I think in the goal , he made sure that was going in! Overall, they took the chances they got, or we gave them and we, as usual of late, squandered ours. Still it was a lovely 6 hour round trip! And probably more for some. |
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Post by iamstokie on Oct 30, 2022 9:37:12 GMT
First half, I defended Bursik as I felt he wasn’t at fault for the first goal. Second half, his brain seemed scrambled. He tried to punch a shot that was straight at him and the ball nearly looped over his shoulder. After that he was all over the place and I can’t defend his part in the second and third goals. He did make a couple of decent stops but the lad seems to be struggling. Following the trauma the lad has suffered this past few months, this is a tricky situation for the manager. He parries every shot at him which is always going lead to giving goals away |
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