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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2022 21:13:13 GMT
Why is it so bad? It doesn’t feel like we’ve been good at home since Hughes was manager.
Tonight was a game against a really shit side who we should have murdered.
The crowd weren’t hostile.
After a while we were pretty encouraging. So I don’t think you can blame us.
Are they scared of messing up in case it does go toxic? Which is fair but grow some balls.
Tonight was a real test imo. When I heard that they haven’t won away all season, it’s one of those things you know we will oblige with. And we did. But why? And it wasn’t the usual utterly abject kind of display. We murdered them until it came to the most important bit.
Totally and utterly frustrating.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 18, 2022 21:16:18 GMT
Too many players switch off in defensive situations
Too many crosses don’t beat the first man
Top many passes go astray
Too many wrong decisions in the final third
Lack of intensity when chasing the game.
Annoying……
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 18, 2022 21:17:21 GMT
No idea but it's annoying.
Not so much a bear pit anymore.
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Post by Gods on Oct 18, 2022 21:18:35 GMT
Back down to earth with a bump.
We hit them with the kitchen sink, 29 shots to 4, but somehow contrived to lose, astonishing really.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Oct 18, 2022 21:18:45 GMT
It’s not about home form it’s about conceding first imo.
The stats are shocking
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 18, 2022 21:24:29 GMT
Back down to earth with a bump. We hit them with the kitchen sink, 29 shots to 4, but somehow contrived to lose, astonishing really. Yep, and the same thing may well happen at the weekend too. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 18, 2022 21:25:18 GMT
It’s not about home form it’s about conceding first imo. The stats are shocking Yep, and the opposition will know that full well if they've done their research. Get the first goal and we're fine. Concede it and we can't seem to turn a game around for toffee. |
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Post by robinplumpton on Oct 18, 2022 21:30:43 GMT
1. We don’t move the ball quick enough when in possession.
2. We don’t have enough movement off the ball
3. We tend to pass to a players feet, rather than into the space, so are liable to passes being intercepted, or a player having to beat his man to advance
Thus we do not stretch teams and create space. This means a compact defence are not broken down and we resort to hoofing the ball.
Having said that, despite all of this we still should have beaten that lot. I am sure some will rue our luck, but poor decision making means you have to rely on luck
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 18, 2022 21:31:14 GMT
Why is it so bad? It doesn’t feel like we’ve been good at home since Hughes was manager. Tonight was a game against a really shit side who we should have murdered. The crowd weren’t hostile. After a while we were pretty encouraging. So I don’t think you can blame us. Are they scared of messing up in case it does go toxic? Which is fair but grow some balls. Tonight was a real test imo. When I heard that they haven’t won away all season, it’s one of those things you know we will oblige with. And we did. But why? And it wasn’t the usual utterly abject kind of display. We murdered them until it came to the most important bit. Totally and utterly frustrating. We did murder them but that is the most angry I’ve been watching a stoke game for a long time. Maybe my fault for believing I don’t know |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 18, 2022 21:34:38 GMT
It’s not about home form it’s about conceding first imo. The stats are shocking Yep, and the opposition will know that full well if they've done their research. Get the first goal and we're fine. Concede it and we can't seem to turn a game around for toffee. Yeah said the same at HT. More so for us it seems, first goals are absolutely critical. We still really struggle to get back into games. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 18, 2022 21:37:22 GMT
Too many players switch off in defensive situations Too many crosses don’t beat the first man Top many passes go astray Too many wrong decisions in the final third Lack of intensity when chasing the game. Annoying…… Crosses and wrong decisions for sure. Both very very poor tonight. |
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 18, 2022 21:44:18 GMT
How we started cost us that game. We were asleep for the first ten minutes. If we played the first 10 minutes we played the following 80 they wouldn’t have had a shot in goal.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 18, 2022 21:52:56 GMT
Today was just a bit of an aberration, mainly down to misfiring strikers (possibly trying too hard). 9 times out of ten we win that game, I wouldn’t really lump today in with a general “bad home form” tendency
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Post by backintheday on Oct 18, 2022 21:53:55 GMT
1. We don’t move the ball quick enough when in possession. 2. We don’t have enough movement off the ball 3. We tend to pass to a players feet, rather than into the space, so are liable to passes being intercepted, or a player having to beat his man to advance Thus we do not stretch teams and create space. This means a compact defence are not broken down and we resort to hoofing the ball. Having said that, despite all of this we still should have beaten that lot. I am sure some will rue our luck, but poor decision making means you have to rely on luck This👍 |
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Post by Ron on Oct 18, 2022 21:55:21 GMT
Not clinical enough. Concede soft goals. Simple.
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 18, 2022 22:00:56 GMT
We've simply got too many nice, easy on the eye footballers and not enough clinical, nasty bastards.
The end result in games like tonight is chances created but not taken.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 18, 2022 22:02:41 GMT
We've simply got too many nice, easy on the eye footballers and not enough clinical, nasty bastards. The end result in games like tonight is chances created but not taken. I have a feeling that will change with time under this manager but Fox, Clarke, Delap and Gayle sum up the O'Neil era perfectly. |
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Post by desman2 on Oct 18, 2022 22:07:45 GMT
We need a Thorny type character who steam rollers in with the sole intent of being first to the ball. Or maybe two of em.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2022 22:09:19 GMT
Today was just a bit of an aberration, mainly down to misfiring strikers (possibly trying too hard). 9 times out of ten we win that game, I wouldn’t really lump today in with a general “bad home form” tendency It’s the charity aspect that makes it so for me. To win was to show a corner may have been properly turned. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 18, 2022 22:09:23 GMT
The players haven't liked playing at home - fact.
I think that will change soon enough though if we carry on as we're doing.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 18, 2022 22:11:55 GMT
It’s not about home form it’s about conceding first imo. The stats are shocking 25 games now isn't it? |
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Post by werrington on Oct 18, 2022 22:13:27 GMT
Too many players switch off in defensive situations Too many crosses don’t beat the first man Top many passes go astray Too many wrong decisions in the final third Lack of intensity when chasing the game. Annoying…… It’s almost an art that 99% of our corners or free kicks result in the opposition defence getting a head on it It’s impossible to practice perfection like that |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 18, 2022 22:17:44 GMT
Tonight is the most frustrated I’ve been in a very long time watching us
Firstly we played well but we still wouldn’t have scored if we were playing now.
The 2 crosses Thompson put in were brilliant.
Rotherham very very poor side and cheats to go with it.
Gavin Ward absolutely atrocious as I expected
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 18, 2022 22:23:02 GMT
We've simply got too many nice, easy on the eye footballers I'm not so sure about that. Have you seen Jack Bonham? His face looks like someone's punched a lasagne. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 18, 2022 22:28:09 GMT
I bet we have one of the worst home forms in Europe this last 6 years
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Post by loosestools on Oct 18, 2022 22:34:51 GMT
We've simply got too many nice, easy on the eye footballers I'm not so sure about that. Have you seen Jack Bonham? His face looks like someone's punched a lasagne. I'm going to use that one tomorrow  |
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 18, 2022 22:35:02 GMT
We've simply got too many nice, easy on the eye footballers I'm not so sure about that. Have you seen Jack Bonham? His face looks like someone's punched a lasagne. Says Bradley Pitt here... |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 18, 2022 22:41:04 GMT
Today was just a bit of an aberration, mainly down to misfiring strikers (possibly trying too hard). 9 times out of ten we win that game, I wouldn’t really lump today in with a general “bad home form” tendency It’s the charity aspect that makes it so for me. To win was to show a corner may have been properly turned. Yes but as frustrating as today was, it was a different kind of frustration from recent home defeats (recent as in most of the last six years). I still think we’re most of the way round the corner. The weekend will really put it to the test… |
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 19, 2022 5:42:59 GMT
The effort was there tonight, the set-up from the manager was there, the subs were positive enough...what wasn't there was the final ball and correct decisions in the final third. We frustrated ourselves to such an extent that by the last 15 minutes we were just trying to shoot from anywhere. We wouldn't have scored had we played all night, despite having a ridiculous number of attempts.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 20, 2022 7:52:00 GMT
Too many players switch off in defensive situations Too many crosses don’t beat the first man Top many passes go astray Too many wrong decisions in the final third Lack of intensity when chasing the game. Annoying…… It’s almost an art that 99% of our corners or free kicks result in the opposition defence getting a head on it It’s impossible to practice perfection like that And to exacerbate the waste we don't clearly win the second ball. |
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