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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 23, 2022 22:06:06 GMT
Hope not, needs to review properly.
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 23, 2022 22:06:42 GMT
Recover properly
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 24, 2022 1:15:28 GMT
Thing is look at it from Harry's perspective He's got the chance to play in a world cup. Not a normal set of games.The most tarnished one ever but it's still A WORLD CUP.
He'd see it as a chance to seal a place in history as well as a way to put himself in the shop window. If he does OK handling Griezmann it'll put 5m on his transfer fee and show he's recovered.
Also, it's his decision and we can't stop him. Neither should we
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Post by werrington on Oct 24, 2022 6:40:15 GMT
He is recovering properly
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 24, 2022 9:29:41 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2022 10:13:50 GMT
Why would the club stand in the way of him going anyway?It maybe the lads only chance ever to play at a World Cup🤔 I’m sure it’s not even a conversation, at least I hope it’s not! It won’t be. I can’t believe it actually is on here and there’s more than one person that seems happy to deny him a possible once in a lifetime chance.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Oct 24, 2022 10:36:44 GMT
Seems realistic that he plays now in the World Cup Great for him and after so long out great for the Club that he maybe plays three games in the group stage purely from a fitness angle Not sure whether they are likely to progress out of the group
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 24, 2022 11:13:06 GMT
He is recovering properly Maybe, but currently we have a 40 year old providing the cohesion in a very fragile defence . For that reason, I don’t want to see Souttar getting injured in a World Cup game playing for a side that is very unlikely to get beyond the group stage. I want to see Souttar hopefully in a Stoke side reaching the play-offs, without him think we have even less chance.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 24, 2022 11:53:09 GMT
He is recovering properly Maybe, but currently we have a 40 year old providing the cohesion in a very fragile defence . For that reason, I don’t want to see Souttar getting injured in a World Cup game playing for a side that is very unlikely to get beyond the group stage. I want to see Souttar hopefully in a Stoke side reaching the play-offs, without him think we have even less chance. So never play good players because they might get injured. And the play offs have gone for this season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2022 12:01:43 GMT
He is recovering properly Maybe, but currently we have a 40 year old providing the cohesion in a very fragile defence . For that reason, I don’t want to see Souttar getting injured in a World Cup game playing for a side that is very unlikely to get beyond the group stage. I want to see Souttar hopefully in a Stoke side reaching the play-offs, without him think we have even less chance. You’re not looking at it from his pov. A potential once in a lifetime opportunity to play in a World Cup. And you want him fit for a battle for midtable. And he could get injured in any game. He could get injured training when the World Cup is on. It’s small time selfish thinking imo.
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Post by wembley4372 on Oct 24, 2022 14:40:17 GMT
Three weeks before the squad has to be announced.
Four weeks before he can be swapped out 'injured' if anything flares up.
The games are 4/5 days apart so he could risk playing in the first and last game and then join up with the squad if they've gone for warm weather training or just hop on a plane to Clayton wood for some physio.
He seems a sensible lad but you cannot blame him if the lure of the World Cup is too strong.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2022 14:59:37 GMT
Isn’t it pretty ideal for us?
He can play 3 competitive games in about the right timeframe for what his recovery seems to be and it’s not us that have to nurture him back.
He will be 3 games down the line to fitness hopefully, ironed our aches and pains and any creeks and will be more ready for us?
Seems ideal really.
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 24, 2022 15:59:26 GMT
Maybe, but currently we have a 40 year old providing the cohesion in a very fragile defence . For that reason, I don’t want to see Souttar getting injured in a World Cup game playing for a side that is very unlikely to get beyond the group stage. I want to see Souttar hopefully in a Stoke side reaching the play-offs, without him think we have even less chance. You’re not looking at it from his pov. A potential once in a lifetime opportunity to play in a World Cup. And you want him fit for a battle for midtable. And he could get injured in any game. He could get injured training when the World Cup is on. It’s small time selfish thinking imo. So playing for Australia against Tunisia is big time🤔
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Post by ilikelamp on Oct 24, 2022 16:03:29 GMT
You’re not looking at it from his pov. A potential once in a lifetime opportunity to play in a World Cup. And you want him fit for a battle for midtable. And he could get injured in any game. He could get injured training when the World Cup is on. It’s small time selfish thinking imo. So playing for Australia against Tunisia is big time🤔 Not usually but this is the World Cup finals! Which will be watched by millions around the world. The biggest football competition there is so yes it is big time
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Post by werrington on Oct 24, 2022 16:05:22 GMT
You’re not looking at it from his pov. A potential once in a lifetime opportunity to play in a World Cup. And you want him fit for a battle for midtable. And he could get injured in any game. He could get injured training when the World Cup is on. It’s small time selfish thinking imo. So playing for Australia against Tunisia is big time🤔 Seriously?
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Oct 24, 2022 16:25:58 GMT
The question is, how often will he feature for us before he jets off? He must be a way off match fitness for the Championship, never mind the World Cup. I hope he goes and features of course and good luck to him, but I'm interested how many competitive games he'll play for his club. Surely, for his own peace of mind he needs to play at least once.
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Post by lordb on Oct 24, 2022 18:16:00 GMT
The question is, how often will he feature for us before he jets off? He must be a way off match fitness for the Championship, never mind the World Cup. I hope he goes and features of course and good luck to him, but I'm interested how many competitive games he'll play for his club. Surely, for his own peace of mind he needs to play at least once. We have 5 games He really needs to be starting a minimum of two Thats probably going to happen though if no set backs from here On bench for Stoke after the Norwich game?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 20:21:21 GMT
You’re not looking at it from his pov. A potential once in a lifetime opportunity to play in a World Cup. And you want him fit for a battle for midtable. And he could get injured in any game. He could get injured training when the World Cup is on. It’s small time selfish thinking imo. So playing for Australia against Tunisia is big time🤔 Yep it's the biggest of all the big times in World football, its the World Cup. You are aware what the World Cup is aren't you?
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 24, 2022 20:45:39 GMT
So playing for Australia against Tunisia is big time🤔 Yep it's the biggest of all the big times in World football, its the World Cup. You are aware what the World Cup is aren't you? ok, must be me then👍
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2022 22:58:52 GMT
Yep it's the biggest of all the big times in World football, its the World Cup. You are aware what the World Cup is aren't you? ok, must be me then👍 It is. It’s the World Cup ffs 😂
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 25, 2022 11:23:51 GMT
It is. It’s the World Cup ffs 😂 Thanks, I get it know. On thebright side, I suppose it is the closest well see one of our players close to anything big time for a while. I’ll leave you the to the last word (as usual)😉.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 27, 2022 19:18:53 GMT
Bayern seems to be enjoying his performance tonight
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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 27, 2022 19:29:35 GMT
Bayern seems to be enjoying his performance tonight Strong opinions there for someone usually so nuanced.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 27, 2022 20:15:36 GMT
Was great tonight.
Some tough tackles. Some dodgy landings. A sprint or two.
Not sure what he’d gain from playing at that level again tbh. Looked way too easy.
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Post by blackpoolred on Oct 27, 2022 21:02:39 GMT
They interviewed him last week as he had played a few minutes for the reserves in a couple of the games and says he has another 2-week plan which I think will be with the reserves again - he surely will be nowhere near match-fit enough to play 90 minutes and would be suicidal to have him playing three 90 minute games in 9 or 10 days - would be horrified if the medical staff/manager are advising him to go at this stage.
For the sake of his own career, he needs to say no to this particular gig - he is young and may have many more tournaments, but if he pushes too hard too soon he may end his career
You can't help feeling that he is being primed for the WC though with Stoke as the sideshow, and will possibly go one of two ways: if he goes and trains hard and gets a few minutes here and there he may come back fitter and ready to play for us, or if they try and play him for 90 mins in every game he will almost certainly pick up a secondary injury
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 27, 2022 22:29:10 GMT
When Beckham did his metatarsal before the 2002 one was anyone concerned about him rushing back?
When Rooney did his metatarsal before the 2006 one was anyone concerned about him rushing back?
When Keegan had a bad back and Brooking had something else before 1982 was anyone concerned about them rushing back?
But Harry has the chance to represent his country and some begrudge him. Yes he's had a huge injury. But if he's fit he's fit. Before the injury he was being watched by premier league clubs. As I said earlier in the thread it's an ideal chance to put himself in the shop window.
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Post by Gods on Oct 27, 2022 22:37:40 GMT
When Beckham did his metatarsal before the 2002 one was anyone concerned about him rushing back? When Rooney did his metatarsal before the 2006 one was anyone concerned about him rushing back? When Keegan had a bad back and Brooking had something else before 1982 was anyone concerned about them rushing back? But Harry has the chance to represent his country and some begrudge him. Yes he's had a huge injury. But if he's fit he's fit. Before the injury he was being watched by premier league clubs. As I said earlier in the thread it's an ideal chance to put himself in the shop window. Yes. it reminds me of how athletes don't really care about world record times, they are just temporary and transitory, it is medals they care about, an Olympic medal is forever. Playing in a World Cup is forever!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 27, 2022 23:10:13 GMT
Looking like he'll join up with the squad but won't play.
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Post by hotpot on Oct 28, 2022 1:43:56 GMT
Big Harry will enjoy the WC. Oz has many good players, notably Aaron Mooy and Tom Rogic (both Celtic players now and before), with quite a few playing in the Scottish Premier league and the Championship, as well as in the Korean and Japanese competitions. This is not quite the half-cocked Australian team that everyone thinks it is. Oz is in Qatar, after having played 21 WC Asian Zone qualifying matches with more than half its games away, and we already know how formidable Japan, South Korea, Iran and Saudi Arabia are.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 28, 2022 8:18:06 GMT
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