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Post by haway on Aug 26, 2022 9:29:16 GMT
Not so interesting if you look at his Twitter account. The guy lives in Dubai, he must have sensitive hearing! He's got a phone, hasn't he? Football Insider and James Hunter are the journalists to follow for Sunderland news. Football Insider haven’t said anything about it and James Hunter said it’s Neil doing the press conference at 2pm.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 26, 2022 9:30:09 GMT
Not so interesting if you look at his Twitter account. The guy lives in Dubai, he must have sensitive hearing! He's got a phone, hasn't he? who is he though? I cant see anything beyond some random Sunderland fan who lives in Dubai.
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Post by haway on Aug 26, 2022 9:30:42 GMT
Graeme Bailey, who has got good Boro links I think, claims Wilder (and Barton) are on the shortlist. I’d assume the shortlist will have more than 2 managers mind.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 26, 2022 9:31:23 GMT
He's got a phone, hasn't he? who is he though? Good question! He's followed by all the north-east journos though
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 26, 2022 9:32:29 GMT
Haven't we just been down this exact road? RR: What would you say his strengths are as a coach? Jack: His ability to come in and get results quickly are a strength of his which you could see in his spell at Norwich and in his first season with us. He plays with an emphasis on pressing from the front and putting the opposition under pressure. Not afraid to play out from the back either - when PNE were at their best, it was box office viewing. RR: And weaknesses... Jack: At times PNE struggled to break down deep defensive lines who sat in and were happy to invite pressure. North End were always better against the better sides when the emphasis was on winning the ball back. Norwich fans were also quite insistent that he had no Plan ‘B’ which you could see at Deepdale for his final few months. But he has a playing style and he likes to stick by it and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Our biggest issue since relegation under three different managers has been that we don't have a clue how to break down teams that sit deep. It's a bit worrying.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 26, 2022 9:34:09 GMT
He's coming here isn't he, very strange to delay presser 🤔 unless he's after a better deal with them. He did that at Preston didn't he, led us and WBA around to get himself a better contract there? Pretty sure he did yes.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 26, 2022 9:34:16 GMT
Barton would be the wrong call for all of the obvious reasons. He may well be a good coach and man manager but his baggage is too much of a burden for a club like ours to take on. I couldn't get on board with it although it wouldn't stop me watching and supporting the team.
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Post by northernstokie on Aug 26, 2022 9:37:39 GMT
we are unlikely to appoint a manager with an unblemished record I can only really think of Guardiola. Cheeky bid? Well according to MON we play the same way so would be an easy transition. 🤣🤣
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Post by webbyscfc on Aug 26, 2022 9:38:22 GMT
Alex Neil 1/2 on now 😳
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 9:40:12 GMT
Graeme Bailey, who has got good Boro links I think, claims Wilder (and Barton) are on the shortlist. Wilder seems the most outlandish of the lot but would be the best of the lot too. Just can’t see it happening
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Post by windows1 on Aug 26, 2022 9:40:57 GMT
Alex Neil would be very underwhelming.
Never really pulled up trees anywhere he's been. Granted he got a norwich side promoted through the playoffs on the 2nd try. Sacked and then went to preston where he was lame midtable fodder. Got a sunderland side promoted which was more likely to happen than not' regardless of the manager.
After playing Sunderland last week his team did not fill me with excitement. 10 men behind the ball and deserved to lose to a manager on the chopping block
He will divide the fans from the moment he walks in the door. Not a great track record in all honesty.
Seems to me, just another run of the mill manager where we are clinging onto hope rather than expectation.
I dont feel that with Wilder and dyche - both fill me with belief that soon they will develop a promotion time.
Also alex neil face is horrible and i want to punch it.
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Post by haway on Aug 26, 2022 9:43:44 GMT
Alex Neil would be very underwhelming. Never really pulled up trees anywhere he's been. Granted he got a norwich side promoted through the playoffs on the 2nd try. Sacked and then went to preston where he was lame midtable fodder. Got a sunderland side promoted which was more likely to happen than not' regardless of the manager. After playing Sunderland last week his team did not fill me with excitement. 10 men behind the ball and deserved to lose to a manager on the chopping bloke. He will divide the fans from the moment he walks in the door. Not a great track record in all honesty. Seems to me, just another run of the mill manager where we are clinging onto hope rather than expectation. I dont feel that with Wilder and dyche - both fill me with believe that soon they will develop a promotion time. Also alex neil face is horrible and i want to punch it. You say that about Sunderland promoted, but it’s worth noting he wasn’t the first manager we had in the third tier. Three tried before him and three failed.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 26, 2022 9:46:49 GMT
Alex Neil would be very underwhelming. Never really pulled up trees anywhere he's been. Granted he got a norwich side promoted through the playoffs on the 2nd try. Sacked and then went to preston where he was lame midtable fodder. Got a sunderland side promoted which was more likely to happen than not' regardless of the manager. After playing Sunderland last week his team did not fill me with excitement. 10 men behind the ball and deserved to lose to a manager on the chopping bloke. He will divide the fans from the moment he walks in the door. Not a great track record in all honesty. Seems to me, just another run of the mill manager where we are clinging onto hope rather than expectation. I dont feel that with Wilder and dyche - both fill me with believe that soon they will develop a promotion time. Also alex neil face is horrible and i want to punch it. Think that's all pretty unfair really. He got Norwich promoted through the play offs at the first attempt after a run of 17 wins in 25. He got a Preston side with the lowest wage bill in the league to finish spitting distance from the play-offs twice, playing some pretty good stuff for a lot of that time. If getting Sunderland promoted was easy, why could none of the managers in the previous four seasons manage it?
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Post by windows1 on Aug 26, 2022 9:47:37 GMT
Alex Neil would be very underwhelming. Never really pulled up trees anywhere he's been. Granted he got a norwich side promoted through the playoffs on the 2nd try. Sacked and then went to preston where he was lame midtable fodder. Got a sunderland side promoted which was more likely to happen than not' regardless of the manager. After playing Sunderland last week his team did not fill me with excitement. 10 men behind the ball and deserved to lose to a manager on the chopping bloke. He will divide the fans from the moment he walks in the door. Not a great track record in all honesty. Seems to me, just another run of the mill manager where we are clinging onto hope rather than expectation. I dont feel that with Wilder and dyche - both fill me with believe that soon they will develop a promotion time. Also alex neil face is horrible and i want to punch it. You say that about Sunderland promoted, but it’s worth noting he wasn’t the first manager we had in the third tier. Three tried before him and three failed. I wouldn't say from an outside view he preformed miracles to get sunderland promoted though. He just didn't F it up like his previous manager. Im not saying he's not a good manager. He just does not fill be with a great deal of excitement and expectation. But is this where the club are at the moment with managers
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Post by thewonderstuff on Aug 26, 2022 9:48:55 GMT
BetVictor odds taken down!
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Post by windows1 on Aug 26, 2022 9:50:57 GMT
Alex Neil would be very underwhelming. Never really pulled up trees anywhere he's been. Granted he got a norwich side promoted through the playoffs on the 2nd try. Sacked and then went to preston where he was lame midtable fodder. Got a sunderland side promoted which was more likely to happen than not' regardless of the manager. After playing Sunderland last week his team did not fill me with excitement. 10 men behind the ball and deserved to lose to a manager on the chopping bloke. He will divide the fans from the moment he walks in the door. Not a great track record in all honesty. Seems to me, just another run of the mill manager where we are clinging onto hope rather than expectation. I dont feel that with Wilder and dyche - both fill me with believe that soon they will develop a promotion time. Also alex neil face is horrible and i want to punch it. Think that's all pretty unfair really. He got Norwich promoted through the play offs at the first attempt after a run of 17 wins in 25. He got a Preston side with the lowest wage bill in the league to finish spitting distance from the play-offs twice, playing some pretty good stuff for a lot of that time. If getting Sunderland promoted was easy, why could none of the managers in the previous four seasons manage it? I can't argue with you mate. You are most likely correct. Out of all the managers we are linked to, would he be in your top 3? We have seen Stoke city is a hard place to manage. Rowett had similar credentials to Neil - both up and coming relative success elsewhere. If were ever in need of a proven manager its now. Is Neil proven.... not on my watch
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 26, 2022 9:51:33 GMT
On the plus side, he plays Jack Clarke at LWB, so I don't think we'd be seeing Thompson there any time soon.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 26, 2022 9:52:08 GMT
Neil is hardly a man with an unblemished record is he ? It’s not as if he was promoted out of PNE. I could understand the owners falling over themselves to get things going if they thought Dyche was available but Neil ?? The only managers without blemishes are rookies though? Those are the options. Roll the dice on someone promising but inexperienced or go for someone experience but who will have had ups and downs. To be honest we’ve tried and failed with virtually every new manager scenario there is 🙂 I’m just a bit bemused about the timing of O’Neill’s departure and the rumoured high risk approach for a manager with a track record of leading us on a bit of a dance.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 26, 2022 9:54:08 GMT
Think that's all pretty unfair really. He got Norwich promoted through the play offs at the first attempt after a run of 17 wins in 25. He got a Preston side with the lowest wage bill in the league to finish spitting distance from the play-offs twice, playing some pretty good stuff for a lot of that time. If getting Sunderland promoted was easy, why could none of the managers in the previous four seasons manage it? I can't argue with you mate. You are most likely correct. Out of all the managers we are linked to, would he be in your top 3? We have seen Stoke city is a hard place to manage. Rowett had similar credentials to Neil - both up and coming relative success elsewhere. If were ever in need of a proven manager its now. Is Neil proven.... not on my watch I think 'proven' is overrated to be honest. If Wilder was a realistic prospect I'd swallow my dislike of him as a bloke and he'd be my top choice. Squad is set up for him and he's a good manager for the most part. I'd be up for rolling the dice on Carrick. I could live with a Neil or a Mowbray as I think they're capable of getting us up the table playing decent stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 9:54:39 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 26, 2022 10:16:20 GMT
But...why would Neil want to come to Stoke. Can we throw that much more money at him? He likes a rolling contract so he's not after security? It's a strange one. Maybe he would see the players we have are at least all of championship quality ( bar a couple perhaps ) and would think it's abit easier than trying to rebuild a promoted squad. Good to see Neil likes to mix up his tactics when required. Last season 65% of Sunderland’s games played 4 at the back, and the other games were a back 3. The vast majority of those 4 at the back games were 4-2-3-1 with a few played as 4-4-3. I think therefore our squad is primed to align with his chosen tactics.
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Post by jonso on Aug 26, 2022 10:23:22 GMT
Graeme Bailey, who has got good Boro links I think, claims Wilder (and Barton) are on the shortlist. Come to The Brit you big ugly beautiful man. Unless you don’t, then you are dead to me Dyche.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 10:34:12 GMT
Maybe he would see the players we have are at least all of championship quality ( bar a couple perhaps ) and would think it's abit easier than trying to rebuild a promoted squad. Good to see Neil likes to mix up his tactics when required. Last season 65% of Sunderland’s games played 4 at the back, and the other games were a back 3. The vast majority of those 4 at the back games were 4-2-3-1 with a few played as 4-4-3. I think therefore our squad is primed to align with his chosen tactics. 4-4-3! Who needs a 'keeper, right?
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Post by webbyscfc on Aug 26, 2022 10:40:10 GMT
Bilic has just dropped from 25/1 to 12/1 3rd fav on sky bet
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Post by Goonie on Aug 26, 2022 10:46:10 GMT
I'm torn between a steady, British hand but part of me craves a foreign manager just to shake everything up!
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Post by flea79 on Aug 26, 2022 10:46:56 GMT
are netflix filming you again this year? personally i want to see that chap with the long face who was an ex soldier sat with his poodle and his tea going cold saying he cant believe it! i dont see him coming to stoke if im being honest I doubt it. We haven’t been filmed for years. according to your local journo netflix are filming you currently! i just hope they get a better theme song than that bloody miserable one it currently has
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Post by Goonie on Aug 26, 2022 10:49:15 GMT
Bilic has just dropped from 25/1 to 12/1 3rd fav on sky bet On 6 January 2021, Bilić was named as head coach of Chinese Super League side Beijing Guoan on a two-year contract.[49] On 8 January 2022, Bilić parted ways with Beijing Guoan.[50] Wonder if he has a home in the UK still? Could open the door to European players too
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 10:49:46 GMT
Graeme Bailey, who has got good Boro links I think, claims Wilder (and Barton) are on the shortlist. Come to The Brit you big ugly beautiful man. Unless you don’t, then you are dead to me Dyche. I would consider the guy in the glasses bottom left. Hobbies include Living with his Mum Not talking to girls Pokémon Go
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 26, 2022 10:55:55 GMT
Come to The Brit you big ugly beautiful man. Unless you don’t, then you are dead to me Dyche. I would consider the guy in the glasses bottom left. Hobbies include Living with his Mum Not talking to girls Pokémon Go If he’s good at Pokémon Go then he might make a decent scout for us. If he can find Pokémon, he can find a good footballer.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 26, 2022 11:02:16 GMT
Graeme Bailey, who has got good Boro links I think, claims Wilder (and Barton) are on the shortlist. Come to The Brit you big ugly beautiful man. Unless you don’t, then you are dead to me Dyche. Seriously weird.
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