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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 25, 2022 19:04:55 GMT
This is nonsense. Injuries or no injuries, the football has been absolute dross for over 18 months. We DO have a better squad than Sunderland. We just need some proper management, coaching and tactical flexibility to get more out of them. I'm talking about Alex Neil. That Sunderland squad is only a few injuries away from being in a relegation scrap. On xG they should have lost every game so far but they're actually unbeaten. A Ross Stewart injury and a few bad results and they could get sucked into a fight later in the season. Michael's downfall is due to multiple things. He hasnt been there that long though. Also, hes only just got them promoted (which he did in his first season). Hes plenty of credit in the bank up there
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 25, 2022 19:10:54 GMT
Why give him almost the whole window and pre season to sack him a week before the window shuts, when we’re at our matchday loan limit and when we’re 5 games into the season? Seems incredibly out of the blue? Unless it’s mutual? Or they’ve had movement on a target? Moving targets at Stoke? The players have enough problems in training as it is!
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 25, 2022 19:36:47 GMT
Lot of good players at Stoke now for a Manager to work with. for christ sake get a fucking goalkeeper though
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Post by questionable on Aug 25, 2022 19:38:38 GMT
Lot of good players at Stoke now for a Manager to work with. for christ sake get a fucking goalkeeper though An extra goal post between the two existing ones is better than we currently have.
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Post by haway on Aug 25, 2022 20:22:26 GMT
Not sure where the talk of Alex Neil & Chris Wilder is coming from on here. Neither are in the betting lists. Mark Robins at 9/1 on Sky Bet if you fancy a flutter. I’d guess either him or Barton. I wouldn’t have neil if he paid us So don’t get bricking it I’m not, I’d be baffled if you appointed him when others like Dyche are available and willing.
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 25, 2022 20:27:13 GMT
I wouldn’t have neil if he paid us So don’t get bricking it I’m not, I’d be baffled if you appointed him when others like Dyche are available and willing. It would be an odd move for us and for him. I can’t see any reason why he’d leave his current job for what would be at best a sideways move.
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 25, 2022 20:31:29 GMT
I wouldn’t have neil if he paid us So don’t get bricking it I’m not, I’d be baffled if you appointed him when others like Dyche are available and willing. He'll be too busy eating worms while waiting for a prem job
I can honestly see it being Mowbray in the end. I can't see him being worse than MON at all, but I also see a lot of fans giving up completely if we appoint him.
God it's fun being a Stoke fan, be thankful you aren't one currently, you've got a good thing going on with Neil there.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 25, 2022 20:55:45 GMT
Always makes me laugh that we keep employing shit domestic managers and folk like you want more of the same….. There are limitations on recruiting from Europe now for a team like Stoke after Brexit. Under rules agreed prior to Britain leaving the European Union in January 2020, coaches recruited from the continent must receive a Governing Body Endorsement through the FA, in order to confirm they are of ‘the highest calibre and able to contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in England’. To qualify for a GBE, potential managers have to meet specific criteria, which includes a total of 36 months first-team management in a major league within the previous five years, or 24 months consecutively in post. Sounds good to me - worth making the effort to get a suitably accredited coach from the continent…….
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Post by a on Aug 25, 2022 21:40:17 GMT
This is nonsense. Injuries or no injuries, the football has been absolute dross for over 18 months. We DO have a better squad than Sunderland. We just need some proper management, coaching and tactical flexibility to get more out of them. I'm talking about Alex Neil. That Sunderland squad is only a few injuries away from being in a relegation scrap. On xG they should have lost every game so far but they're actually unbeaten. A Ross Stewart injury and a few bad results and they could get sucked into a fight later in the season. Michael's downfall is due to multiple things. I get the comparison between us and the black cats ref the manager. One is newly promoted the other isn’t 😂 A decent manager can make it work
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Post by hotterpotter on Aug 25, 2022 21:44:54 GMT
I should have a day off from the Oatcake more often. OMG MON has been sacked! 😯🤯😐🙂🥳🤔😳
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Post by enuntio on Aug 25, 2022 21:49:02 GMT
Are people feeling more optimistic now?
I will admit that sacking O'Neil today came as a bit of a semi-pleasant shock. I was expecting him to go 6 months before his contract expired.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2022 21:49:21 GMT
I thought this place didn’t show a true picture of what’s going on 😂😂
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 25, 2022 21:53:28 GMT
I thought this place didn’t show a true picture of what’s going on 😂😂 I was just about to post two days ago that I didn't see anything happening any time soon and that it just didn't feel like a change was afoot. I believe I said the same about TP in 2013. Possibly also Hughes before Coventry. I think I knew Rowett was done for, though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2022 21:55:51 GMT
I thought this place didn’t show a true picture of what’s going on 😂😂 I was just about to post two days ago that I didn't see anything happening any time soon and that it just didn't feel like a change was afoot. I believe I said the same about TP in 2013. Possibly also Hughes before Coventry. I think I knew Rowett was done for, though. Yeah I didn’t see it coming at all but the overwhelming feeling in the real world was that he had to go. They were strange comments especially about the MoN issue. As for once most people seemed pretty united on that front.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Aug 25, 2022 21:57:04 GMT
Really appreciate him keeping us up and wish him all the best of luck. If we've not already lined someone up, we're bloody stupid. Sacked Hughes and replaced him with Lambert, which didn't work out. Hopefully the board are being sensitive today and will announce the new manager early next week. If not, they've not learned a thing.
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Post by biddulphchav on Aug 26, 2022 0:13:40 GMT
Poor Lambert gets some stick on here He had a thankless task, He gets stick because even a bloke from the Romanian 4th division could’ve kept that lot up. Instead what we got was give the ball to Shaq and periodic shouts of ‘TYRESE! TYRESE! GOARN TYRESE!’ In short, he was fucking useless and his appointment was one of the worst things I’ve ever had the displeasure of witnessing at Stoke. And then some maniacs even wanted him to stay when we went down. Absolutely suicidal. His interviews made my piss boil ‘ehhhhhhh, we need to work harder as a team, ehhhhhhhh, I thought we had some good spells in the game, ehhhhhhhhhh, it’s a tough place to come and play ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ehhhhhhhhhhh’. Every week he trotted out the same shite, he knew he was out of his depth and it was one last big pay cheque
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 26, 2022 0:16:41 GMT
Hyaduck's moment of triumph.
Must have gone back to the Vale forum...
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 26, 2022 5:05:07 GMT
Well, that is good news.
I’d have sacked him at half time at Tynecastle.
The worst 45 minutes I’ve seen not just from Stoke but by anyone.
You could see then the start of the season would be poor. The players looked like strangers.
Anyway, better now than Xmas, which is what I feared was the best case.
Let’s hope we finally appoint someone decent into the job.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 26, 2022 6:23:08 GMT
I thought this place didn’t show a true picture of what’s going on 😂😂 Who would you take as manager Bayern or are you keeping the cards close to your chest?
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Post by thevoid on Aug 26, 2022 6:38:01 GMT
Are people feeling more optimistic now? I will admit that sacking O'Neil today came as a bit of a semi-pleasant shock. I was expecting him to go 6 months before his contract expired. Depends who we appoint really.
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Post by stantheman on Aug 26, 2022 6:43:39 GMT
I wouldn’t have neil if he paid us So don’t get bricking it I’m not, I’d be baffled if you appointed him when others like Dyche are available and willing. Great to get the views of supporters from other teams on here. Captainfishpaste hasn't been on here for a while?
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Post by haway on Aug 26, 2022 7:18:22 GMT
I’m not, I’d be baffled if you appointed him when others like Dyche are available and willing. Great to get the views of supporters from other teams on here. Captainfishpaste hasn't been on here for a while? Apparently he’s a bit of a bellend? But I can’t remember him though. Just on the off chance you do appoint Neil, you will be getting a very good manager mind. Knows how to set his teams up for a win. I still can’t see it happening as he’s rarely complained in the public eye and has been backed this summer (we’ve been one of the biggest spenders in the division).
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 26, 2022 7:22:11 GMT
Are people feeling more optimistic now? I will admit that sacking O'Neil today came as a bit of a semi-pleasant shock. I was expecting him to go 6 months before his contract expired. No not really most of the names in the betting are dull as fuck.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 26, 2022 7:25:25 GMT
Great to get the views of supporters from other teams on here. Captainfishpaste hasn't been on here for a while? Apparently he’s a bit of a bellend? But I can’t remember him though. Just on the off chance you do appoint Neil, you will be getting a very good manager mind. Knows how to set his teams up for a win. I still can’t see it happening as he’s rarely complained in the public eye and has been backed this summer (we’ve been one of the biggest spenders in the division). We’ll I suppose if we’re going to be shit we might as well be shit and completely cynical. Can’t say I’ve ever watched one of his teams and thought now that’s what I’d like to see week in week out.
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Post by haway on Aug 26, 2022 7:31:29 GMT
Apparently he’s a bit of a bellend? But I can’t remember him though. Just on the off chance you do appoint Neil, you will be getting a very good manager mind. Knows how to set his teams up for a win. I still can’t see it happening as he’s rarely complained in the public eye and has been backed this summer (we’ve been one of the biggest spenders in the division). We’ll I suppose if we’re going to be shit we might as well be shit and completely cynical. Can’t say I’ve ever watched one of his teams and thought now that’s what I’d like to see week in week out. I hope your owners are thinking the same thing to be fair!
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Post by kerouac on Aug 26, 2022 7:42:42 GMT
Great to get the views of supporters from other teams on here. Captainfishpaste hasn't been on here for a while? Apparently he’s a bit of a bellend? But I can’t remember him though. Just on the off chance you do appoint Neil, you will be getting a very good manager mind. Knows how to set his teams up for a win. I still can’t see it happening as he’s rarely complained in the public eye and has been backed this summer (we’ve been one of the biggest spenders in the division). My Sunnerland supporting mate reckons we’ve got absolutely no chance of snatching Neil…..he is bonkers mind,and sent me an essay of why not and the massive plans re their plans and structure etc etc..if the Coates dong is swung though,Neil may not be able to resist.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 26, 2022 8:00:40 GMT
Great to get the views of supporters from other teams on here. Captainfishpaste hasn't been on here for a while? Apparently he’s a bit of a bellend? But I can’t remember him though. Just on the off chance you do appoint Neil, you will be getting a very good manager mind. Knows how to set his teams up for a win. I still can’t see it happening as he’s rarely complained in the public eye and has been backed this summer (we’ve been one of the biggest spenders in the division). He’d be mad to leave Sunderland so soon after taking over, and we’d be mad to go down the compensation route also whilst there’s other managers available. He’s a solid Championship manager and will do a good job for you but I certainly wouldn’t get excited by him being appointed……
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 26, 2022 8:03:23 GMT
Apparently he’s a bit of a bellend? But I can’t remember him though. Just on the off chance you do appoint Neil, you will be getting a very good manager mind. Knows how to set his teams up for a win. I still can’t see it happening as he’s rarely complained in the public eye and has been backed this summer (we’ve been one of the biggest spenders in the division). He’d be mad to leave Sunderland so soon after taking over, and we’d be mad to go down the compensation route also whilst there’s other managers available. He’s a solid Championship manager and will do a good job for you but I certainly wouldn’t get excited by him being appointed…… Very fair - but we know we've got a historical thing for him, and he's the kind of solid character the family love Won't happen unless there's something going on his personal life which means he'd like to move back to the north-west, or relationship with the board there that we don't know about though. We'll probably find out if it's a runner in the next few mins at his press conference
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Post by thewonderstuff on Aug 26, 2022 8:08:10 GMT
Haven't seen enough of Sunderland but his Preston side were most certainly the dirtiest bunch of bastards we've played since relegation. I'd prefer Wilder myself but both still seem longshots to me despite the odds.
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 26, 2022 8:09:34 GMT
I’m not, I’d be baffled if you appointed him when others like Dyche are available and willing. He'll be too busy eating worms while waiting for a prem job I can honestly see it being Mowbray in the end. I can't see him being worse than MON at all, but I also see a lot of fans giving up completely if we appoint him. God it's fun being a Stoke fan, be thankful you aren't one currently, you've got a good thing going on with Neil there.
I'm far from being knowledgeable on such things but isn't Mowbray by inclination one of the exponents of the tippy tappy, lets go nowhere type of football? Thinking of his time at West Brom. So we might still get stuck with twenty passes and back to the goalkeeper( however good or bad they might be!).
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