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Post by Goonie on Aug 17, 2022 21:25:12 GMT
I admire your loyalty but there is a lot of high expressed emotions tonight so I'd pop your tin hat on šŖšš² It's alot different sitting in my home comforts commentating compared to spending your hard earned cash for a... Cold wet and windy Wednesday night at Stoke š. So of course others will have their own opinions which they're entitled too. It was a shit performance for the most part, I'm not denying that. But there's positives to take too and that's all I'm doing. Excited for Sunderland now. I particularly liked DWP's goal and back flip! Needs to start 433 just for the hell of it
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Post by gawa on Aug 17, 2022 21:27:01 GMT
It's alot different sitting in my home comforts commentating compared to spending your hard earned cash for a... Cold wet and windy Wednesday night at Stoke š. So of course others will have their own opinions which they're entitled too. It was a shit performance for the most part, I'm not denying that. But there's positives to take too and that's all I'm doing. Excited for Sunderland now. I particularly liked DWP's goal and back flip! Needs to start 433 just for the hell of it Well apparently Tymon and Laurent out for 6 weeks or more. Think he defo has to consider it now especially with Delap coming in too.
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Aug 17, 2022 21:29:42 GMT
Iāve defended MON all the way through and for some reason I still donāt want him gone.
However, tonight was bad. One of the worst, but letās not forget this 5-3-2/3-5-2 whichever way you look at it. Is wilders baby, he knows this system inside out so tonight weāre probably coming up against one of the best versions of this formation.
Very passive and quite simply not good enough tonight
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Post by caine on Aug 17, 2022 21:29:46 GMT
I particularly liked DWP's goal and back flip! Needs to start 433 just for the hell of it Well apparently Tymon and Laurent out for 6 weeks or more. Think he defo has to consider it now especially with Delap coming in too. Would think surely 433 with no proper LWBā¦ of course not lol
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 17, 2022 21:29:51 GMT
I admire your loyalty but there is a lot of high expressed emotions tonight so I'd pop your tin hat on šŖšš² It's alot different sitting in my home comforts commentating compared to spending your hard earned cash for a... Cold wet and windy Wednesday night at Stoke š. So of course others will have their own opinions which they're entitled too. It was a shit performance for the most part, I'm not denying that. But there's positives to take too and that's all I'm doing. Excited for Sunderland now. You might elaborate on those positives because from where Iām sittingā¦
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Post by BuzzB on Aug 17, 2022 21:30:47 GMT
Signs of a good team to play badly and get a result. Probably our worst performance since Millwall but knew it was going to be a difficult game against a strong Boro side. With Tymon, Clarke, Souttar, Laurent, Powell and the newly signed Delap all to return to the starting XI. That's not a bad result against a fully strength Middlesborough side with no injuries or suspensions. When I seen the team sheet it did give me a shiver and I knew we were in for a long night. But to be fair to Michael he changed the formation and personnel and we could have won it with our chances in the last 10 minutes. Not the best performance but I'll take the point and with a few players returning for the weekend, I'm feeling quietly confident for Sunderland. Jesus fuckin christ
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 17, 2022 21:30:47 GMT
I admire your loyalty but there is a lot of high expressed emotions tonight so I'd pop your tin hat on šŖšš² It's alot different sitting in my home comforts commentating compared to spending your hard earned cash for a... Cold wet and windy Wednesday night at Stoke š. So of course others will have their own opinions which they're entitled too. It was a shit performance for the most part, I'm not denying that. But there's positives to take too and that's all I'm doing. Excited for Sunderland now. Excited!? š³šš¤£š
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Post by bagnallboothen on Aug 17, 2022 21:30:48 GMT
Sign of a good teamā¦ Jesus man we were abysmal, did we have 2 shots on target in the 2nd half while losing at home to a team that havenāt won a game yet. Middlesborough are a very good side who I expect to be fighting for the playoffs. And Chris wilder is a top manager too. They've not had a good start to the season but they've been playing well and been unfortunate. I agree though the performance was abysmal and we deserved nothing from it. We were battered for the majority of it and the game passed the midfield. I don't in anyway think that was a good performance and said as much saying it was the worst since Millwall. But despite that and with the personnel we are missing and Delap to come in. I do feel confident going forward whether that is with Micheal at the helm or someone else. We've got a good squad here and it was nice to see him make the tactical change which ultimately won us the point. Any reason we're not a top side fighting for the play offs?
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Post by Gods on Aug 17, 2022 21:31:42 GMT
And i have to give credit to the boro side who if they keep that up will walk ths devision Boro are 5th favourites to win the title behind Norwich, Burnley, Sheff U. and WBA. Burnley have 1 more point than us, Norwich the same and WBA 1 fewer. It's very early days, we do need some momentum though and quickly. There is nothing between the teams in this league, nothing at all, anything is possible from relegation to promotion to anything in between.
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Post by Goonie on Aug 17, 2022 21:32:43 GMT
I particularly liked DWP's goal and back flip! Needs to start 433 just for the hell of it Well apparently Tymon and Laurent out for 6 weeks or more. Think he defo has to consider it now especially with Delap coming in too. Delap: he refused to confirm him coming on the post-match interview which is worrying
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Post by bagnallboothen on Aug 17, 2022 21:34:56 GMT
And i have to give credit to the boro side who if they keep that up will walk ths devision Boro are 5th favourites to win the title behind Norwich, Burnley, Sheff U. and WBA. Burnley have 1 more point than us, Norwich the same and WBA 1 fewer. It's very early days, we do need some momentum though and quickly. There is nothing between the teams in this league, nothing at all, anything is possible from relegation to promotion to anything in between. Norwich, Burnley, Sheffield United and the Baggies ... would all be perfectly good examples if they'd had the same manager serving up the same toss with the same mistakes for over 2 years.
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Post by walrus on Aug 17, 2022 21:36:34 GMT
And i have to give credit to the boro side who if they keep that up will walk ths devision They havenāt won any of their four matches. Letās not make it sound like we were outclassed by a brilliant team, we made it incredibly easy for a bog standard Championship team to dominate the game against us. Iām shocked and delighted that we got a point.
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Post by Block 26 on Aug 17, 2022 21:37:30 GMT
As said on another thread, That was absolutely dreadful. Boro weāre all over us & a yard quicker in every department. We stole a point there & he needs to go asap!
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Post by gawa on Aug 17, 2022 21:39:16 GMT
It's alot different sitting in my home comforts commentating compared to spending your hard earned cash for a... Cold wet and windy Wednesday night at Stoke š. So of course others will have their own opinions which they're entitled too. It was a shit performance for the most part, I'm not denying that. But there's positives to take too and that's all I'm doing. Excited for Sunderland now. You might elaborate on those positives because from where Iām sittingā¦ The positives I could take: - We had to defend alot of set pieces tonight and conceded no goals from them. 3/5 of our previously conceded goals were from corners so this was much needed. - Bursik I think had a decent enough game and did most things right. Which again I think we need for his confidence as well as the defences. - Manager decided to change to a front 3 and we got a goal and should have got another. So it's a good sign to see that he reacted in game and made a decision which had a positive impact on the result. - Great to see DWP get some minutes and a goal. Always particularly good to see youth players make an impact. - Gayle I think had another good game for the service he received and that's like 4 disallowed goals now? - Young Kilkenny seemed up for the game and kept making himself available and did well in his cameo. - Was good to see 5 players who came through the youth system all on the pitch at the end in Sparrow, Bursik, Taylor, Campbell and DWP. And I think that's inspiring for other young players trying to come through too. - With so many options up top now, and wing backs injured. Hopefully the manager will see the impact the change of formation had tonight and maybe consider deploying a front 3 more often and just being a bit more flexible tactically.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 17, 2022 21:41:10 GMT
I admire your loyalty but there is a lot of high expressed emotions tonight so I'd pop your tin hat on šŖšš² It's alot different sitting in my home comforts commentating compared to spending your hard earned cash for a... Cold wet and windy Wednesday night at Stoke š. So of course others will have their own opinions which they're entitled too. It was a shit performance for the most part, I'm not denying that. But there's positives to take too and that's all I'm doing. Excited for Sunderland now. Sometimes taking positives can be likened to eating a plate of manure and trying to convince oneself it was a gourmet meal.
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 17, 2022 21:41:37 GMT
Timing is a great thing isn't it?
Lost count the amount of times I've logged on here after a defeat and seen posts bemoaning a lack of plan B, a lack of late goals depicting mental and physical weakness, a lack of an ability and nous to sniff out a result of any sort when playing really badly etc.
One foot on the road to recovery on that front tonight.
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Post by saltydog on Aug 17, 2022 21:41:38 GMT
Didnāt really rate boro, another team made to look better than they are. We were poor thoughā¦if weāre having to use makeshift wingbacks then surely donāt use wingbacks?! Thatās basic right? Thought smallbone looked weak and exposed without Laurent, and I think baker hasnāt been the same since getting the permanent captaincy. Get a decent wet nurse or relinquish the armband cos somethingās keeping him up at night!
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Post by gawa on Aug 17, 2022 21:41:50 GMT
Middlesborough are a very good side who I expect to be fighting for the playoffs. And Chris wilder is a top manager too. They've not had a good start to the season but they've been playing well and been unfortunate. I agree though the performance was abysmal and we deserved nothing from it. We were battered for the majority of it and the game passed the midfield. I don't in anyway think that was a good performance and said as much saying it was the worst since Millwall. But despite that and with the personnel we are missing and Delap to come in. I do feel confident going forward whether that is with Micheal at the helm or someone else. We've got a good squad here and it was nice to see him make the tactical change which ultimately won us the point. Any reason we're not a top side fighting for the play offs? I think with a fully strength squad like Boro we are playoff material and certainly better than Boro too.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 17, 2022 21:44:34 GMT
I really wanted to turn the page, reset and look forward with a bit of optimism.
But, good Lord, that was utterly abject.
One team looked like they were coached and had a plan - and one didn't.
Just problems all over the pitch.
The regulars around where I sit were going mental for the first time since the end of Hughes' tenure for 20 minutes after they took the lead. Some very unlikely characters were totally losing their shit - just snapped
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Post by hotterpotter on Aug 17, 2022 21:45:24 GMT
... Hopefully the manager will see the impact the change of formation had tonight and maybe consider deploying a front 3 more often and just being a bit more flexible tactically. That's the main issue for me - I just can't see it happening.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 17, 2022 21:46:18 GMT
Any reason we're not a top side fighting for the play offs? I think with a fully strength squad like Boro we are playoff material and certainly better than Boro too. Are you on crack?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 17, 2022 21:47:52 GMT
Any reason we're not a top side fighting for the play offs? I think with a fully strength squad like Boro we are playoff material and certainly better than Boro too. Weāve got to use that squad properly though havenāt we? I donāt see how anyone can back him to do that at this point.
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Post by gawa on Aug 17, 2022 21:47:57 GMT
I think with a fully strength squad like Boro we are playoff material and certainly better than Boro too. Are you on crack? Just the ganja mate. You don't think this squad is playoff material? And I mean when we have a full squad available not just what was available tonight.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 17, 2022 21:48:12 GMT
Any reason we're not a top side fighting for the play offs? I think with a fully strength squad like Boro we are playoff material and certainly better than Boro too. Boro are currently 4/5 players light of where they want to be by the close of the window. They hadnāt won a game all season To position then as worldbeaters against plucky little Stoke is utterly ridiculous and borderline Daily Mail level propaganda
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Aug 17, 2022 21:48:41 GMT
Any reason we're not a top side fighting for the play offs? I think with a fully strength squad like Boro we are playoff material and certainly better than Boro too. I'd stay off the Monkey Dust, it's a killer.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 17, 2022 21:49:30 GMT
Timing is a great thing isn't it? Lost count the amount of times I've logged on here after a defeat and seen posts bemoaning a lack of plan B, a lack of late goals depicting mental and physical weakness, a lack of an ability and nous to sniff out a result of any sort when playing really badly etc. One foot on the road to recovery on that front tonight. Your confusing luck with tactics.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 17, 2022 21:50:41 GMT
Timing is a great thing isn't it? Lost count the amount of times I've logged on here after a defeat and seen posts bemoaning a lack of plan B, a lack of late goals depicting mental and physical weakness, a lack of an ability and nous to sniff out a result of any sort when playing really badly etc. One foot on the road to recovery on that front tonight. Donāt think too many are unhappy with the point. 2 shots on target in 2nd half at home while losing to a team who havenāt won a game and the abject performances thus far this season suggests that if heās driving the bus along any road to recovery we are more likely to drive over a cliff
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Post by gawa on Aug 17, 2022 21:51:33 GMT
I think with a fully strength squad like Boro we are playoff material and certainly better than Boro too. Boro are currently 4/5 players light of where they want to be by the close of the window. They hadnāt won a game all season To position then as worldbeaters against plucky little Stoke is utterly ridiculous and borderline Daily Mail level propaganda I spend alot of time looking at stats and I'm a bit of a nerd that way. When I last checked Boro were one of the unluckiest teams so far this season plus they had some of the most difficult opening fixtures too. (Sheffield, WBA, Stoke and QPR). On expected goals they should have won all of those games too. I have no doubt they will be challenging in the top half for playoffs.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 17, 2022 21:52:25 GMT
I really wanted to turn the page, reset and look forward with a bit of optimism. But, good Lord, that was utterly abject. One team looked like they were coached and had a plan - and one didn't. Just problems all over the pitch. The regulars around where I sit were going mental for the first time since the end of Hughes' tenure for 20 minutes after they took the lead. Some very unlikely characters were totally losing their shit - just snapped Indeed. Owners so out of touch with the massively reducing fan base who are prepared to watch the same car crash over and over Totally bizarre behaviour by people who claim they care
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 17, 2022 21:52:30 GMT
Just the ganja mate. You don't think this squad is playoff material? And I mean when we have a full squad available not just what was available tonight. Squad definitely playoff material Manager payoff material
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