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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 18:24:45 GMT
You've pretty much summed up there 😁👍 Looks like he's lined up for RWB Be great news if happens. 👍
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 15, 2022 18:24:59 GMT
So how many loan signings will that be.
Can’t have both Clarke (Brighton) and delap can we?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 15, 2022 18:25:59 GMT
So how many loan signings will that be. Can’t have both Clarke (Brighton) and delap can we? We can in theory, but as and when Harry Clarke is fit, one of: H. Clarke M.Clarke Fosu Kilkenny Smallbone Delap would have to be left out of any 18 I think.
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 15, 2022 18:26:53 GMT
The bar chart you posted above listed him as LW/RWB. I’m assuming he’ll play RWB. I can only see us trying to get a striker now to be honest. Edit - just seen that he has only played RWB a few times. According to some on here though, only wingers should be played as wing backs, so I’m sure this lad is exactly the option we should have gone for. Yeh can’t see him admitting he’s completely fucked up in the centre half department. There has to be scope to bring in a goalkeeper though? Yet another one, I’ve lost count of the amount of useless keepers he’s signed Well, I think that Wilmot can do well there. We just need to keep a settled back line for a while. Subbing in Jagielka for Flint should be the only thing we do with it. How can they develop partnerships if they keep being swapped out? Souttar should then be the one in the middle when he returns. Unless the goal is to bring in an lcb, move Taylor to the centre and play Wilmot at rcb, I don’t want to see it. Even then, I don’t want them to dick around and do that because defenders need continuity. The keeper on the other hand is just crap. At worst, we should just stick with Bonham, who at least isn’t as bad as Bursik.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 15, 2022 18:27:14 GMT
With what’s around he looks as good as it gets.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 15, 2022 18:27:58 GMT
We know our budget is tight. We signed Clarke and presumably Arsenal expect him to play most games therefore we can’t afford to overspend on cover. Decision taken to see if we can get by with Sparrow to save money. Clarke injury and Sparrow’s limited success call for a change of tack so we go for a versatile player from a club known for its recruitment success, rated by the majority of their fans. Can play RWB short-term and the offer is something different up front. If he goes well at RWB, Clarke could slot in at RCB. Presumably Fosu also an option to cover Tymon. May mean we have to compromise on LCB at least until Jags goes in January but Fosu and Tymon is a quick pair of wingbacks.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Aug 15, 2022 18:28:23 GMT
In isolation I’d actually like this signing, but there’s so much to unpack from it.
Firstly, if the injury to Clarke was 4 weeks down the line we’d be going into the next 4 months having to play a teenage midfielder with two career league games under his belt at wing back. Something the management team were clearly, and fucking bizarrely happy to go with.
Then there’s the obvious issue of who misses out of the loanees when Clarke is back providing we get both Delap and Matt Clarke. Kilkenny is the obvious one for me, but then that just becomes another one of many pointless recent loan signings.
It’s at best a bizarre turn of events. At worst, it’s really quite concerning the lack of foresight from the management to leave us here.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 15, 2022 18:29:35 GMT
Yeh can’t see him admitting he’s completely fucked up in the centre half department. There has to be scope to bring in a goalkeeper though? Yet another one, I’ve lost count of the amount of useless keepers he’s signed Well, I think that Wilmot can do well there. We just need to keep a settled back line for a while. Subbing in Jagielka for Flint should be the only thing we do with it. How can they develop partnerships if they keep being swapped out? Souttar should then be the one in the middle when he returns. Unless the goal is to bring in an lcb, move Taylor to the centre and play Wilmot at rcb, I don’t want to see it. Even then, I don’t want them to dick around and do that because defenders need continuity. The keeper on the other hand is just crap. At worst, we should just stick with Bonham, who at least isn’t as bad as Bursik. Wilmot, Taylor and Jagielka should be the back 3 if this utter clown continues with this crap formation. I agree about Bonham, a far better keeper as it stands but we still need better
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 15, 2022 18:31:15 GMT
In isolation I’d actually like this signing, but there’s so much to unpack from it. Firstly, if the injury to Clarke was 4 weeks down the line we’d be going into the next 4 months having to play a teenage midfielder with two career league games under his belt at wing back. Something the management team were clearly, and fucking bizarrely happy to go with. Then there’s the obvious issue of who misses out of the loanees when Clarke is back providing we get both Delap and Matt Clarke. Kilkenny is the obvious one for me, but then that just becomes another one of many pointless recent loan signings. It’s at best a bizarre turn of events. At worst, it’s really quite concerning the lack of foresight from the management to leave us here. The second point is just conjecture though. There’s no way of knowing that we’ll get either Delap or Clarke.
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Post by wilcopotter on Aug 15, 2022 18:31:28 GMT
Very good player and very quick too. Always looked good at Brentford Lots of players are very good until they play for us🤔
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 15, 2022 18:31:46 GMT
So how many loan signings will that be. Can’t have both Clarke (Brighton) and delap can we? We can in theory, but as and when Harry Clarke is fit, one of: H. Clarke M.Clarke Fosu Kilkenny Smallbone Delap would have to be left out of any 18 I think. Could M. Clarke be a permanent signing?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 15, 2022 18:32:15 GMT
So how many loan signings will that be. Can’t have both Clarke (Brighton) and delap can we? We can in theory, but as and when Harry Clarke is fit, one of: H. Clarke M.Clarke Fosu Kilkenny Smallbone Delap would have to be left out of any 18 I think. That's not going to be a problem in reality though, there's always injuries and squad rotations.
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 15, 2022 18:33:24 GMT
Well, I think that Wilmot can do well there. We just need to keep a settled back line for a while. Subbing in Jagielka for Flint should be the only thing we do with it. How can they develop partnerships if they keep being swapped out? Souttar should then be the one in the middle when he returns. Unless the goal is to bring in an lcb, move Taylor to the centre and play Wilmot at rcb, I don’t want to see it. Even then, I don’t want them to dick around and do that because defenders need continuity. The keeper on the other hand is just crap. At worst, we should just stick with Bonham, who at least isn’t as bad as Bursik. Wilmot, Taylor and Jagielka should be the back 3 if this utter clown continues with this crap formation. I agree about Bonham, a far better keeper as it stands but we still need better We do need better, but it doesn’t look likely to happen. At least with Bonham, we wouldn’t concede at every shot on target. I feel Bursik’s next trick will see him parry off target shots into the net. But yeah, Taylor - Jagielka - Wilmot as the three with this guy and Tymon offering some pace going forward.
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Post by gawa on Aug 15, 2022 18:34:21 GMT
We can in theory, but as and when Harry Clarke is fit, one of: H. Clarke M.Clarke Fosu Kilkenny Smallbone Delap would have to be left out of any 18 I think. Could M. Clarke be a permanent signing? Maybe City would do a swap with us of Delap for Fox, Dunhanney and Clucas.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 15, 2022 18:37:40 GMT
Says he’s played RB for Ghana too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 18:38:32 GMT
Very good player and very quick too. Always looked good at Brentford 49 appearances in the Championship……appearances mean he could have come on for 10 mins. How times have you seen him play? Enough to know he was decent everytime I saw him. Plus you only have to look at what Brentford fans think of him, they are big fans of him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 15, 2022 18:40:06 GMT
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Post by dingbat on Aug 15, 2022 18:41:58 GMT
If this is from Brentford he’s no mug.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 15, 2022 18:43:23 GMT
Surely goes into the “better than what we have” category anyway. He seems to be able to play a few roles, hopefully he can master one for us.
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Post by collo68 on Aug 15, 2022 18:44:20 GMT
Looks like a cracking signing, some of the shit on here. You say sign a wingback/winger when we sign one and loads of people moan and they say the manager hasn’t got a clue. Last year we played different systems and we were doing well then. The best football we played last year was with wingbacks but 3 4 3 with Brown in the middle with Powell and Vrancic wide. Let’s get the squad finished and then let’s see what we have got.
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Post by Stokester on Aug 15, 2022 18:44:42 GMT
So how many loan signings will that be. Can’t have both Clarke (Brighton) and delap can we? We can in theory, but as and when Harry Clarke is fit, one of: H. Clarke M.Clarke Fosu Kilkenny Smallbone Delap would have to be left out of any 18 I think. You’d think Kilkenny from that lot, although relatively likely one would be injured.
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Post by Gods on Aug 15, 2022 18:44:54 GMT
So how many loan signings will that be. Can’t have both Clarke (Brighton) and delap can we? We can in theory, but as and when Harry Clarke is fit, one of: H. Clarke M.Clarke Fosu Kilkenny Smallbone Delap would have to be left out of any 18 I think. I didn't even know we had 2 players called 'Clarke' ! I'm losing track. Playing for Stoke has become a 10 month job. Maybe that's the problem.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 15, 2022 18:46:10 GMT
Looks like he's lined up for RWB Be great news if happens. 👍 I think so, they need to give this manager what he wants, right now, or let him go. Hopefully they are going to give him full backing and get the other players in we need as well
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 15, 2022 18:47:16 GMT
We can in theory, but as and when Harry Clarke is fit, one of: H. Clarke M.Clarke Fosu Kilkenny Smallbone Delap would have to be left out of any 18 I think. I didn't even know we had 2 players called 'Clarke' ! I'm losing track. Playing for Stoke has become a 10 month job. Maybe that's the problem. We haven't yet, but it's been touted we wanted to double our Clarke stocks
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 15, 2022 18:48:52 GMT
If he has been brought in to play RWB then credit to the manager for being brave but after witnessing 2 and a half years of his decision making I'm extremely sceptical.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 15, 2022 18:49:36 GMT
Interesting to see if he chucks him straight in at RWB on Wednesday.
He's got to be tempted
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 15, 2022 18:52:00 GMT
I’d love to know what our plan is. It’s baffling. I don’t even think the manager knows what the plan is 🤷♀️
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Post by march4 on Aug 15, 2022 18:52:25 GMT
We can in theory, but as and when Harry Clarke is fit, one of: H. Clarke M.Clarke Fosu Kilkenny Smallbone Delap would have to be left out of any 18 I think. You’d think Kilkenny from that lot, although relatively likely one would be injured. Already looking a pointless signing.
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Post by questionable on Aug 15, 2022 18:54:31 GMT
Winger? No idea what's going on I was about to post the same. We might aswell sign a wicket keeper. In place of Bursik??
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 15, 2022 18:54:47 GMT
My only issue with this is that he's nailing the 352 colours to the mast and we don't have the players to play a 4 at the back as a plan b.
Tymon can't play left back. Duhaney is hopeless, Clarke is a definite rwb and Fosu looks to be too, none of Wilmot, Jags, Flint, Taylor can play right back and only Fox whose right out of favour can play left back, so 352 it is
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