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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 30, 2022 16:13:49 GMT
He should have gone at the end of the season. 99% knew it. Pre season was a real reflection on the first game of the season. I don’t want him gone, we’re 1 game into the season. Shit performance no doubt but there are / were some positives. On paper we have a good squad (need a couple more) so I wouldn’t be pulling the trigger just yet. What were the positives, not the players, from the set up he used?
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Post by Kingswaystokie on Jul 30, 2022 16:14:01 GMT
That was heartbreaking.
3 at the back does not work and never has. Millwall walked through our non existant midfield. Complete lack of effort and committment. Players look bereft of any kind of game management. Millwall TV, " Stoke lack any desire " " Stoke, despite being 2 down, are walking around "..agreed we are the slowest team in the championship.
FFS Coates, do your bloody job NOW and sack him before it's too late, this football club is nothing but a joke.
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Post by DodgyDino on Jul 30, 2022 16:14:21 GMT
Can I just check without any agenda, if anyone actually doesn't want him gone? I was prepared to give him 10 games this season but after today's sh@t show he can go today for me
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 30, 2022 16:14:31 GMT
Here we go !!! Yeah , lets got rid and replace him with ??????? Take Dyche at a drop of a hat
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Post by masterpotter on Jul 30, 2022 16:14:36 GMT
Does anybody seriously think he’s had a preseason, signed a lot of players and the board are then going to sack him after one game. If you do then you are deluded. He will be given until the World Cup break at least Once the fans turn he'll be gone, if it carries on like this it won't take long. So you want somebody to come in and work with his players and then wait til January for the next window. I’m not pro O’Neil by the way, I’m just saying it as it is
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 30, 2022 16:14:46 GMT
He should have gone at the end of the season. 99% knew it. Pre season was a real reflection on the first game of the season. I don’t want him gone, we’re 1 game into the season. Shit performance no doubt but there are / were some positives. On paper we have a good squad (need a couple more) so I wouldn’t be pulling the trigger just yet. So we've got a good squad, that he can't get a tune out of and has made look poor for 2 years but he's the right man? Interesting logic. Out of curiosity, other than Taylor, what were the positives?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 30, 2022 16:15:05 GMT
Dyche or corberan.
Has to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2022 16:15:07 GMT
He should be going to the owners and resigning.
It was the manner of the defeat which is concerning, different personnel but same outcome.
Mind you Bursik flatters to deceive.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 30, 2022 16:15:12 GMT
That was heartbreaking. 3 at the back does not work and never has. Millwall walked through our non existant midfield. Complete lack of effort and committment. Players look bereft of any kind of game management. Millwall TV, " Stoke lack any desire " " Stoke, despite being 2 down, are walking around "..agreed we are the slowest team in the championship. FFS Coates, do your bloody job NOW and sack him before it's too late, this football club is nothing but a joke. It’s 5 at the back always has been
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 30, 2022 16:15:52 GMT
Should have gone in May.
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Post by questionable on Jul 30, 2022 16:16:18 GMT
He should have gone at the end of the season. 99% knew it. Pre season was a real reflection on the first game of the season. I don’t want him gone, we’re 1 game into the season. Shit performance no doubt but there are / were some positives. On paper we have a good squad (need a couple more) so I wouldn’t be pulling the trigger just yet. And here’s the age old problem, it’s not one game it’s three seasons. I’m stunned that as a team and a city throughout we put up with any shit. ON out Conservatives out
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Post by wrighter on Jul 30, 2022 16:16:25 GMT
Here we go !!! Yeah , lets got rid and replace him with ??????? Only 35 minutes in eh pal 🙄 It's not our job to find a replacement, it's our forward thinking board that should be doing that and should already have done Keep clapping fella keep clapping ? WTF are you on about ?
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Post by TinkerT on Jul 30, 2022 16:16:52 GMT
He should be going to the owners and resigning. It was the manner of the defeat which is concerning, different personnel but same outcome. Mind you Bursik flatters to deceive. Please tell me your joking? Fucking hell without bursik it would have been 4 or 5
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 30, 2022 16:17:14 GMT
He should be going to the owners and resigning. It was the manner of the defeat which is concerning, different personnel but same outcome. Mind you Bursik flatters to deceive. Eh? You brought in our second best player today into your post for what reason other than a stupid agenda?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 30, 2022 16:17:16 GMT
Once the fans turn he'll be gone, if it carries on like this it won't take long. So you want somebody to come in and work with his players and then wait til January for the next window. I’m not pro O’Neil by the way, I’m just saying it as it is I think there would be managers that can come in and change it with these players yes, look at Forrest last season, they turned around very quickly before the transfer window (I think?), there's a decent team in there somewhere but MON doesn't have a clue what he's doing with them.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 30, 2022 16:17:23 GMT
Can I just check without any agenda, if anyone actually doesn't want him gone? Apart from a small pocket of happy clapping automatons there is a definite sea change against MON now. I don't know a single person who wants him to remain (apart from a couple of Fail fans which speaks volumes)
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Post by Uncle cheese on Jul 30, 2022 16:17:30 GMT
Here we go !!! Yeah , lets got rid and replace him with ??????? The bloke that took Huddersfield to last seasons play offs
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Post by wrighter on Jul 30, 2022 16:18:23 GMT
Here we go !!! Yeah , lets got rid and replace him with ??????? Take Dyche at a drop of a hat Forgot about him Yes, good choice
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Post by britvic72 on Jul 30, 2022 16:19:12 GMT
Here we go !!! Yeah , lets got rid and replace him with ??????? All the other managers the fans wanted that came and went in the blink of an eye 🤬
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Post by marwood on Jul 30, 2022 16:19:25 GMT
Holden will be in at the World Cup break if stays like this Not that it will make any difference
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Post by sportsman on Jul 30, 2022 16:19:27 GMT
If we can't have an exciting team to go watch I really wish I didn't care. I'm ready watch the community sheild and I love watching my footy.
I think from top to bottom this is going to be the best ever premier league season to watch.
Just wish we could have something worth watching too.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 30, 2022 16:19:31 GMT
Here we go !!! Yeah , lets got rid and replace him with ??????? That's no argument for keeping him. And Joe Soap on The Oatcake isn't paid to research alternative managers, that's what we have a board for.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Jul 30, 2022 16:19:40 GMT
He's a nice guy.
He needs to find his way back into a role where setting up as the underdog is acceptable, and he can play his negative, unimaginative brand of football without recourse.
Back to NI would make sense, if that comes available again.
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Post by march4 on Jul 30, 2022 16:20:22 GMT
I would prefer Chic Bates, Brian Little or Joe Jordan.
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Post by questionable on Jul 30, 2022 16:21:05 GMT
Here we go !!! Yeah , lets got rid and replace him with ??????? That's the big issue here. If this carries on it's untenable. If he has to go, the people tasked with replacing him are the same people that have put us here, only now they have less budget to play with to turn it around. Let's be honest, they lucked out with O'Neill in the first place in keeping us up after the Rowett and Jones debacles. Again, their lazy arsed decisions. On top of that you have FFP restricting what and who we can bring in, so any new manager coming in will find it very tough to move the squad around. We're in deep shit here no matter what we do. In no way am I having a go here but even with FFP we’ve spent money and backed this bloke and whatever he’s had he’s royally cocked it up. FFP doesn’t mean we have to play such rancid football for three seasons, I’m pretty confident in saying that 80% of the teams in this league have no money to spend and would easily beat us, it’s 100% down to ON and the idiot son keeping him in a job.
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 30, 2022 16:23:24 GMT
Here we go !!! Yeah , lets got rid and replace him with ??????? That's no argument for keeping him. And Joe Soap on The Oatcake isn't paid to research alternative managers, that's what we have a board for. The same board that brought O'Neill in, who is now deemed not good enough by the same people you say aren't paid to research alternative managers? The same board that have given us Lambert, Rowett and Jones in the same amount of calendar years as we've been in the Championship? Let's pull no punches here. The owners are useless and I could pull 4 or 5 people off here who would make better footballing decisions than this lot have. The day they appointed Paul Lambert to save us in the PL is the day they should have held their hands up and put the club up for sale. Everything else after has been nothing short of a laughable shit show.
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Post by milky on Jul 30, 2022 16:24:19 GMT
I want him gone but I'm scared of who the next person idiot John unveils as the new man.
I'm not even asking for much ,I've set the bar pretty low but is it too much to see a team go out and have a few attempts on goal?A team who actually tries to score goals ? I'd even accept the odd tanking now and again to at least see some entertainment.
I watched the England ladies Tuesday and honestly it's chalk and cheese.
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Post by Block 26 on Jul 30, 2022 16:27:44 GMT
He should have been gone a long time ago… the only explanation of him still being in the job is we can’t afford to sack him due to ffp.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 30, 2022 16:28:38 GMT
That's no argument for keeping him. And Joe Soap on The Oatcake isn't paid to research alternative managers, that's what we have a board for. The same board that brought O'Neill in, who is now deemed not good enough by the same people you say aren't paid to research alternative managers? The same board that have given us Lambert, Rowett and Jones in the same amount of calendar years as we've been in the Championship? Let's pull no punches here. The owners are useless and I could pull 4 or 5 people off here who would make better footballing decisions than this lot have. The day they appointed Paul Lambert to save us in the PL is the day they should have held their hands up and put the club up for sale. Everything else after has been nothing short of a laughable shit show. I know they're useless but it's still their job to source replacements unfortunately. The only hope is that at least JC was prepared to go for Flores and even Jones looked an interesting appointment at the time, so at least he's not restricted to Dad's roladex of Mick McCarthy and Neil Warnock. But I do worry about who's advising him (or not, as the case may be).
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Post by mrrine on Jul 30, 2022 16:29:02 GMT
Can I just check without any agenda, if anyone actually doesn't want him gone? Apart from a small pocket of happy clapping automatons there is a definite sea change against MON now. I don't know a single person who wants him to remain (apart from a couple of Fail fans which speaks volumes) I actually thought 'give him 5 games next season' at the end of last. I was wrong, I thought he could use pre season, get his players in and build on the 'stability' and boring football and turn it into winning football. It's absolutely clear he can't.
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