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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2022 7:21:07 GMT
Remember an international defender being purchased at £18m who was a useless fat carthorse that we carried for years. We need to steer clear we don't have the ability to make mistakes like this with a permanent contract, even a loan is too costly. That's not a valid comparison either, this is a loan, he's not going to be on daft wages either The issue is his injury record, everything else makes complete sense However his injury history is pretty off putting Why won’t he be on daft wages? Fulham signed him as a PL club from a former PL club who signed him from Monaco. He’ll be on 20k plus surely? And I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s conservative. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 29, 2022 7:25:31 GMT
From what MON said, I get the impression this is an out-and-out punt, maybe in addition to other trails that we think have far more chance of bearing fruit in terms of a left-sided centre-back later in the window
Presumably this is the other position we're desperate for cover in (in addition to the Davis/Delap? pursuit) that we're having to remain patient on (even though you could make a massive case for RWB and keeper)
And, if it did come off, hopefully Fulham would have to make any loan very favourable to the loaning club given his injury record, so doubt it'd be expensive - although that's relative when you consider he'll be on a tasty contract.
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Post by andystokey on Jul 29, 2022 7:39:32 GMT
Remember an international defender being purchased at £18m who was a useless fat carthorse that we carried for years. We need to steer clear we don't have the ability to make mistakes like this with a permanent contract, even a loan is too costly. That's not a valid comparison either, this is a loan, he's not going to be on daft wages either The issue is his injury record, everything else makes complete sense However his injury history is pretty off putting Well it's not so daft as it seems, even if im hamming it up. We couldn't wait to get rid of Wimmer, he never played for us "one reason or another" went out on loan and never really played for anyone he went to. He's a busted flush. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2022 7:42:19 GMT
That's not a valid comparison either, this is a loan, he's not going to be on daft wages either The issue is his injury record, everything else makes complete sense However his injury history is pretty off putting Why won’t he be on daft wages? Fulham signed him as a PL club from a former PL club who signed him from Monaco. He’ll be on 20k plus surely? And I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s conservative. Because it's a loan We would only pay part, surely? Otherwise it would be a non starter Completely different to signing Wimner for £18m and paying him £60k a week plus it was a daft comparison The issue is he appears to be a crock |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2022 7:50:47 GMT
That's not a valid comparison either, this is a loan, he's not going to be on daft wages either The issue is his injury record, everything else makes complete sense However his injury history is pretty off putting Why won’t he be on daft wages? Fulham signed him as a PL club from a former PL club who signed him from Monaco. He’ll be on 20k plus surely? And I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s conservative. If it's a loan with his injury record they'll be lucky to get us to cover a big chunk of his wages though surely. They've taken the unusual step of allowing us to take him on trial so they must be desperate to get rid. |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 29, 2022 7:55:49 GMT
Why won’t he be on daft wages? Fulham signed him as a PL club from a former PL club who signed him from Monaco. He’ll be on 20k plus surely? And I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s conservative. If it's a loan with his injury record they'll be lucky to get us to cover a big chunk of his wages though surely. They've taken the unusual step of allowing us to take him on trial so they must be desperate to get rid. 14 league games in the last 4 seasons. Do we really need that on our plate right now regardless? |
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 29, 2022 7:56:03 GMT
Why won’t he be on daft wages? Fulham signed him as a PL club from a former PL club who signed him from Monaco. He’ll be on 20k plus surely? And I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s conservative. If it's a loan with his injury record they'll be lucky to get us to cover a big chunk of his wages though surely. They've taken the unusual step of allowing us to take him on trial so they must be desperate to get rid. I imagine they have more or less written him off as a loss just as we did with Wimmer, and probably just want to get him out of the club, like we did with Wimmer. It sounds like a no-risk punt to me. |
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Post by thevoid on Jul 29, 2022 7:56:48 GMT
This obsession with signing injury prone players is a worry, especially given our 'luck' with injuries
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 29, 2022 7:58:59 GMT
This obsession with signing injury prone players is a worry, especially given our 'luck' with injuries I think we're just trying to get the best possible quality we can, for the least amount of money we can therefore something has to give. We either get a fit young buck that can't kick a ball straight, an ageing old pro that takes 6 hours to get out of bed in the morning or an injury prone so and so that puts his back out whilst going for a shite. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2022 8:00:43 GMT
If it's a loan with his injury record they'll be lucky to get us to cover a big chunk of his wages though surely. They've taken the unusual step of allowing us to take him on trial so they must be desperate to get rid. 14 league games in the last 4 seasons. Do we really need that on our plate right now regardless? No I don't think we do but I was just discussing his wages. I'm hoping he's our last resort option if Clarke doesn't come off. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 29, 2022 8:26:13 GMT
It's easy to understand why we are willing to take a risk with this player. He seems to possess a lot of quality when you read about him, but his injury record doesn't look good. If we could get 30 games out of him per season it would probably be a coup for the club, and Fuller was a crock before he came to Stoke too. Still it was the most important piece in the jigsaw for our success over years!  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2022 17:36:02 GMT
Terence Konogo apparently!
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 29, 2022 17:40:05 GMT
Terence Konogo apparently! Is this straight from your hotline at the club? Pissed off stage left? |
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2022 17:58:04 GMT
Terence Konogo apparently! For us thickos is that he's not coming? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2022 18:00:18 GMT
Terence Konogo apparently! Is this straight from your hotline at the club? Pissed off stage left? Apparently so. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 29, 2022 18:01:29 GMT
From what MON was saying yesterday, got the impression he would've had to have been bowled over by Kongolo - and the left-sided CB was still one of the 2 positions (in addition to Delap/Davis) that they were still aiming to "be patient", even if it took several more weeks, to get the player they really wanted.
Maybe Matt Clarke?
So no surprise if we've sent him on his way?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2022 18:02:44 GMT
Terence Konogo apparently! Good. Wonder if this means another target is a goer or one of his legs has fallen off in training. |
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Post by stoke111 on Aug 1, 2022 9:13:23 GMT
Is this still going or fizzled out?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 9:17:41 GMT
Is this still going or fizzled out? According to the new ITK Bayern with his Davesviews type cryptic clues it's not happening. Bayern seems to have a new contact. Someone close to the U21 setup at a guess. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 1, 2022 12:02:09 GMT
Is this still going or fizzled out? According to the new ITK Bayern with his Davesviews type cryptic clues it's not happening. Bayern seems to have a new contact. Someone close to the U21 setup at a guess. It's not really cryptic is it. Loads of people tell me stuff in all fairness  I don't know a single one of them personally  |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 1, 2022 13:30:31 GMT
Is this still going or fizzled out? According to the new ITK Bayern with his Davesviews type cryptic clues it's not happening. Bayern seems to have a new contact. Someone close to the U21 setup at a guess. In fairness he got a few right and wasn’t holding himself out as some sort of ITK soothsayer. He unequivocally said he wasn’t and was only relaying what he heard |
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 1, 2022 20:48:59 GMT
From what MON was saying yesterday, got the impression he would've had to have been bowled over by Kongolo - and the left-sided CB was still one of the 2 positions (in addition to Delap/Davis) that they were still aiming to "be patient", even if it took several more weeks, to get the player they really wanted. Maybe Matt Clarke? So no surprise if we've sent him on his way? I actually suggested Kongolo a few weeks back on the Summer Transfers thread. There's no doubting his quality and when he's fit, would absolutely be an asset in a back three. With regard to his injuries, it looks like he's been fit since last November. For whatever reason, he was just never played even in the reserves. Then he turned up and played the full 90 in each of the last two games of the reserve season. Hopefully he's still with us and able to prove his ability. There's been noise that Clarke is likely to stay and try to stake his claim at Brighton. Realistically though, he's not going to get in front of Dunk or Webster in a back four. Cucurella normally takes the left position in a back three, but unless he's sold then Clarke hasn't got much chance of ousting a £50M player either. Our chances might hinge not just on whether he wants to go back to WBA, but also how long the Cucurella transfer saga rumbles on for. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 1, 2022 21:04:11 GMT
Has this fucking “Terry” lad signed yet or what?
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I don't know a single one of them personally 
