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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Mar 28, 2022 8:00:39 GMT
"Jada, can't wait for GI Jane 2," he said, in an apparent reference to her shaved hairdo - which is a result of the hair loss condition alopecia. I wasn’t aware of the alopecia & with regards to your wife’s cousin Daughter, I’m sorry she is having a bad time with it. In relation to the post is the point is how farcical is Hollywood. Personally Smith could of dealt with it off camera not when the whole world is watching. With regards to Chris Rock, he is a comedian who will take the piss, like Jimmy Carr & Ricky Gervais plus others. I’m not saying it’s right or he should or shouldn’t but it is what they are paid to do. Plus general public and audience laugh along. The difference with Gervais is that he mocks hypocrisy, so unless Jada is doing something hypocritical by exploiting her condition, then Chris Rock was bang out of line.
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Post by 36dd on Mar 28, 2022 8:04:12 GMT
I wasn’t aware of the alopecia & with regards to your wife’s cousin Daughter, I’m sorry she is having a bad time with it. In relation to the post is the point is how farcical is Hollywood. Personally Smith could of dealt with it off camera not when the whole world is watching. With regards to Chris Rock, he is a comedian who will take the piss, like Jimmy Carr & Ricky Gervais plus others. I’m not saying it’s right or he should or shouldn’t but it is what they are paid to do. Plus general public and audience laugh along. The difference with Gervais is that he mocks hypocrisy, so unless Jada is doing something hypocritical by exploiting her condition, then Chris Rock was bang out of line. I’m not defending Chris Rock or even Gervais, it was car crash tv & didn’t need to happen.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Mar 28, 2022 8:22:26 GMT
The difference with Gervais is that he mocks hypocrisy, so unless Jada is doing something hypocritical by exploiting her condition, then Chris Rock was bang out of line. I’m not defending Chris Rock or even Gervais, it was car crash tv & didn’t need to happen. I know, and I just wanted to point out the difference. Many people think that comedians that go after people are all the same, but it's simply not true.
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Post by sticky on Mar 28, 2022 8:28:02 GMT
You can’t just go and punch/slap a comedian like that. I wouldn’t be suprised if the comedian style presenting at awards is now consigned to history. Would normally agree but make an exception for Chris Rock . Has needed slapping for years 😂it’s a long list of “celebs” that need a good slap! It’s more the constant preaching to the normal folk of how they should think/behave and the constant hypocrisy that follows. Didn’t that bloke who slapped Macron go jail!? He’s be well higher on the list than Chris rock as well 👋🏻 !
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Mar 28, 2022 8:33:37 GMT
Will Smith gets into one little fight. Mum gets scared, moves him to his aunty and uncle in Bel Air.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 28, 2022 9:39:05 GMT
How embarrassing for the pair of them.
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Post by henry on Mar 28, 2022 10:09:18 GMT
Of course this will never be bought up at a divorce hearing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 10:17:14 GMT
I’m completely bemused that everyone seems to think this was real. To the point where I’m doubting myself. But that was not the way people act in a spontaneous confrontation. No fight or flight reaction from Rock whatsoever, all movements and positions perfect, not so much as the slightest grapple or mic disturbance or ruffled shirt. Not a stride broken or a step skipped, and then Rock just carries on with the jokes completely unfazed. He even says “wow” more or less at the moment he’s being supposedly hit. And then Mr. Enraged Smith just goes to sit back down to watch the rest of CR’s performance? No storming off, no fuss, no security activity? It’s like a cereal advert. Hmmm if you watch the video OP posted I wouldn’t say rock is completely unfazed. He makes the greatest television quip, but then moves on to presenting best documentary and is clearly shaken, stumbling over and mixing up his words whilst trying to regain composure. If it was fake it was Oscar level acting.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 28, 2022 10:26:20 GMT
It’s a joke. If they want to put their shitty marriage in the the press then it’s fair game. I believe rock was more shocked it happened. He should have been removed from the Oscar’s immediately Hollywood always looks after it’s own. Celebrity I shit it. If the roles were reversed and Chris Rock had smacked "Big Willy" live on stage, Rock would have been chucked out of the academy instantly and spent the night in a cell but Will Smith is Hollywood's golden boy so sod all will come of it. Hollywood...the place where virtue is entirely dependent upon how famous the person who committed the offence is and how much publicity it will therefore bring them. The whole thing was a bloody embarrassment, so kind of perfectly sums up what the Oscars are nowadays; a night for privileged, rich elites to pat themselves on the backs whilst having absolutely zero self awareness of who they are or how they act in public.
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Post by Gods on Mar 28, 2022 10:39:44 GMT
Is it right that Smith and his wife have an open marriage? I think that basically means either partner can have sex with other people. They said that Rebel Wilson was poking fun at Smith's wife about her many boyfriends at the BAFTAs but I don't think they were both there. I guess that's about behaviour rather than appearance.
I suppose if you were to be kind to Rock you'd say 1) he's been paid to lampoon the guests and 2) he was perhaps saying you look great with that short hair could be GI Jane 2
Not quite sure where I stand on this one, there was certainly something quaintly old fashioned about sticking up for the missus in that way although their relationship is anything but old fashioned!
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 28, 2022 10:43:38 GMT
Things like this risk comedy becoming even further diluted than it already is, particularly if comedians fear being assaulted on stage.
A joke is a joke, can't take it, don't turn up. As a poster above says, the fact that he laughed initially and then got up when he realised she wasn't happy tells you it's probably not a marriage that's going to last too much longer.
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Post by lordb on Mar 28, 2022 10:59:01 GMT
Not seen the film so can't say Is the film any good? I though Bohemian Rhapsody was an example of a badly made for TV type film somehow winning an Oscar but take it back. Oscars are about content not quality these days. You've lost me I thought you we're saying Smith's performance didn't warrant an Oscar?
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Post by lordb on Mar 28, 2022 11:00:49 GMT
Going by media comments have only seen criticism of Smith & none for Chris Rock
surprised by that tbh
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 28, 2022 11:04:38 GMT
The emotion looks real, but the angle I've seen the slap from looks as staged as anything. Decent bit of drama to be fair, 8/10.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 28, 2022 11:11:17 GMT
Going by media comments have only seen criticism of Smith & none for Chris Rock surprised by that tbh Why? Chris Rock told a joke Bad taste maybe but a joke all the same. And to be honest it wasn’t any worse than Reba’s joke at the BAFTAs Will Smith committed assault. Not the worse case of assault Ive seen but assault all the same. Provoking by a joke is not a good reason for a violent assault regardless of severity of both. Not in the eyes of the law. But will smith is Hollywood
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 11:12:16 GMT
I though Bohemian Rhapsody was an example of a badly made for TV type film somehow winning an Oscar but take it back. Oscars are about content not quality these days. You've lost me I thought you we're saying Smith's performance didn't warrant an Oscar? I was. I though was a poor film and badly acted.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 28, 2022 11:12:29 GMT
Is it right that Smith and his wife have an open marriage? I think that basically means either partner can have sex with other people. They said that Rebel Wilson was poking fun at Smith's wife about her many boyfriends at the BAFTAs but I don't think they were both there. I guess that's about behaviour rather than appearance. I suppose if you were to be kind to Rock you'd say 1) he's been paid to lampoon the guests and 2) he was perhaps saying you look great with that short hair could be GI Jane 2 Not quite sure where I stand on this one, there was certainly something quaintly old fashioned about sticking up for the missus in that way although their relationship is anything but old fashioned! Old fashioned in laughing at your mrs but getting all protective when you get picture no sound
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 28, 2022 11:13:45 GMT
Is it right that Smith and his wife have an open marriage? I think that basically means either partner can have sex with other people. They said that Rebel Wilson was poking fun at Smith's wife about her many boyfriends at the BAFTAs but I don't think they were both there. I guess that's about behaviour rather than appearance. I suppose if you were to be kind to Rock you'd say 1) he's been paid to lampoon the guests and 2) he was perhaps saying you look great with that short hair could be GI Jane 2 Not quite sure where I stand on this one, there was certainly something quaintly old fashioned about sticking up for the missus in that way although their relationship is anything but old fashioned! She seems like a very unlikable person to me and she had an affair for over 4 years. The "open marriage" you'd say from the outside looks very one sided and I think this outburst by Will Smith is about a whole lot more than Jada's condition, this shit is deep rooted.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Mar 28, 2022 11:14:33 GMT
Going by media comments have only seen criticism of Smith & none for Chris Rock surprised by that tbh I think it's difficult for the main stream media to have a go at Rock as it would be tantamount to condoning violence. In the real world, it's much easier to have a pop at him.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 28, 2022 11:19:18 GMT
Going by media comments have only seen criticism of Smith & none for Chris Rock surprised by that tbh I think it's difficult for the main stream media to have a go at Rock as it would be tantamount to condoning violence. In the real world, it's much easier to have a pop at him. There is a war going on. Violence should never be the answer. Certainly not in this scenario Will Smith could have gone on stage later and said his retort. It may have had more impact. I ripped the shit out of a bloke I know today who has one leg. He laughed. But to be fair if he was offended he couldn’t have caught me
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 28, 2022 11:29:36 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Mar 28, 2022 11:36:47 GMT
Regardless of if genuine or staged it's definitely created a talking point. My view on it is its a real time event & wasn't staged due to reactions.
The weird thing is that Will initially laughs out loud at the GI Jane joke. Whether he fully appreciated its true meaning at that time only Will, will know but I'm guessing what's happened is by the look of his Missus face he's had to stop laughing mid point as he's likely getting the frowned look and as reality of what was actually said has dawned he has had to take some kind of action to save face with his wife.
It's akin to laughing at a joke at the dinner table and your other half booting you under the table opposite you in dismay! Perhaps there's been abit of history between these pair in the past aswell..
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 28, 2022 12:14:11 GMT
Ricky Gervais,Graham Norton,Jack Whitehall and Rebel Wilson have all said far worse whilst hosting awards ceremonies so whilst I understand he was standing up for his Mrs he also needs to lighten up the mardi bastard. Also no way was it staged
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 28, 2022 12:16:46 GMT
Has nobody ever seen an actual incident where one person punches another unexpectedly and how the individuals behave and react in that situation? It’s not like that.
I mean this is what they do at the Oscars isn’t it? Stunts and bits and shit.. I really can’t get my head round how anyone would remotely believe it was real for a second. Feels like some weird reverse Truman Show scenario
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Post by 36dd on Mar 28, 2022 12:20:15 GMT
Regardless of if genuine or staged it's definitely created a talking point. My view on it is its a real time event & wasn't staged due to reactions. The weird thing is that Will initially laughs out loud at the GI Jane joke. Whether he fully appreciated its true meaning at that time only Will, will know but I'm guessing what's happened is by the look of his Missus face he's had to stop laughing mid point as he's likely getting the frowned look and as reality of what was actually said has dawned he has had to take some kind of action to save face with his wife. It's akin to laughing at a joke at the dinner table and your other half booting you under the table opposite you in dismay! Perhaps there's been abit of history between these pair in the past aswell.. The tv camera catches jada laughing then she twigs and her expression changes, which at that point the director goes back to Chris Rock, for a good 60-90 secs so we won’t know what Jada said to will? But I suspect it is exactly ‘are you going to let him speak about me like that’ What gets my goat is will walks up punches (taps) him walks back like he’s in Bad Boys 4 & then verbally shouts at him. In all honesty I’m not a fan of either person, and Will has always gotten under my skin for his acting. However honesty I’m enjoying reading this debate and hearing others opinion on last night & Hollywood in general, plus if it was staged?
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 28, 2022 12:28:42 GMT
Imagine if Smith would have been a white man slapping Chris Rock there would have been mass demonstrations today , Black Slaps Matter 😉
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Post by southstanddan on Mar 28, 2022 12:32:56 GMT
If it had been the other “Rock” I doubt Will would have gone up there to slap him
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Post by salopstick on Mar 28, 2022 12:39:10 GMT
Has nobody ever seen an actual incident where one person punches another unexpectedly and how the individuals behave and react in that situation? It’s not like that. I mean this is what they do at the Oscars isn’t it? Stunts and bits and shit.. I really can’t get my head round how anyone would remotely believe it was real for a second. Feels like some weird reverse Truman Show scenario He hit out and walked away. I think Chris rock was in shock and managed to ad-lib it
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 28, 2022 12:41:58 GMT
I think it's difficult for the main stream media to have a go at Rock as it would be tantamount to condoning violence. In the real world, it's much easier to have a pop at him. There is a war going on. Violence should never be the answer. Certainly not in this scenario Will Smith could have gone on stage later and said his retort. It may have had more impact. I ripped the shit out of a bloke I know today who has one leg. He laughed. But to be fair if he was offended he couldn’t have caught me Mel Gibson for instance, absolutely trashed by Ricky Gervais at the Golden globes for his alcoholism and anti-semitic rants etc. A couple of years later at the globes, Ricky has to introduce him on stage, knows it's awkward and (being Ricky) takes another swipe for the sheer fuck of it. Gibson simply comes on stage and calm and collectedly says "I love seeing Ricky at these every 3 years...it reminds me to get a colonoscopy" Though i'm no fan of Gibson or his views in general, THAT'S how you deal with these situations. Ok, it may not have been the funniest joke in the world but let's be honest, anything would have been funnier than Rock's original GI Jane joke (and not because of any bad taste issue, it was simply a really weak joke referencing a film most probably didn't even remember existed and had to google so they could actually get the joke in the first place)
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Post by lordb on Mar 28, 2022 12:51:48 GMT
Going by media comments have only seen criticism of Smith & none for Chris Rock surprised by that tbh Why? Chris Rock told a joke Bad taste maybe but a joke all the same. And to be honest it wasn’t any worse than Reba’s joke at the BAFTAs Will Smith committed assault. Not the worse case of assault Ive seen but assault all the same. Provoking by a joke is not a good reason for a violent assault regardless of severity of both. Not in the eyes of the law. But will smith is Hollywood I'm not defending Smith just surprised Rock has had no apparent criticism for his crassness
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