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Post by mickstupp on Mar 23, 2022 20:47:31 GMT
Mama Sidibe. The only one to invent a completely new position on the field of play. 😀😀😀😀
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Post by pistol on Mar 23, 2022 21:08:27 GMT
Kind of. I always thought he was more of a second striker than an out and out number 10. I would consider Sheringham a number 10, he was neither a striker, a winger or an attacking mid. Just a floater which is what I consider a number 10 to. Someone who’s above actually been made to play an actual position😉 I consider a floater to be more of a number 2
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 21:29:38 GMT
What position was Lampard? 8 same as Gerrard and Scholes. That’s why Sven pushed Scholes out to left wing That's why I find it strange that Scholes is on the list.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 23, 2022 21:30:31 GMT
8 same as Gerrard and Scholes. That’s why Sven pushed Scholes out to left wing That's why I find it strange that Scholes is on the list. #metoo mate😉
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 25, 2022 8:28:40 GMT
Neither in position nor shirt I think the main question is... Was Dennis Bergkamp the best number 10? Or was he the best number 8? ... I'm going give up at this point as I'm disappointed in myself that I've had to make three posts when all I wanted to do was inject a little bit of light-hearted sarcasm with a post about Teddy Sheringham. I'll let you all get back to your serious discussion. To confuse matters further probably our best ever number 8 (Alan Hudson) played mainly for us in a no 10 shirt and arguably our best ever number 10 (Jimmy Greenoff) mainly played in a no 8 shirt during the same period... ...and I can't believe we are 2 pages in on great no 10s and not mentioned Jimmy Greenoff. Shame on you all....
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 25, 2022 9:16:53 GMT
I think the main question is... Was Dennis Bergkamp the best number 10? Or was he the best number 8? ... I'm going give up at this point as I'm disappointed in myself that I've had to make three posts when all I wanted to do was inject a little bit of light-hearted sarcasm with a post about Teddy Sheringham. I'll let you all get back to your serious discussion. To confuse matters further probably our best ever number 8 (Alan Hudson) played mainly for us in a no 10 shirt and arguably our best ever number 10 (Jimmy Greenoff) mainly played in a no 8 shirt during the same period... ...and I can't believe we are 2 pages in on great no 10s and not mentioned Jimmy Greenoff. Shame on you all.... He never played in the Premiershit!
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 25, 2022 9:20:06 GMT
No Joe Allen?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 25, 2022 9:29:13 GMT
Nor Geoff Cameron, for that legendary time Pulis played him there at Arsenal during his 'Falling Down' phase.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 25, 2022 9:30:44 GMT
Worth 10 of Bruno Fernandes..........
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 25, 2022 11:29:18 GMT
Dennis Bergkamp and Zola for me.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 25, 2022 12:29:09 GMT
Nor Geoff Cameron, for that legendary time Pulis played him there at Arsenal during his 'Falling Down' phase. And he scored
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 25, 2022 12:34:25 GMT
Nor Geoff Cameron, for that legendary time Pulis played him there at Arsenal during his 'Falling Down' phase. And he scored Think we lost 1-0 in the game I'm thinking of?
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 25, 2022 12:35:59 GMT
And he scored Think we lost 1-0 in the game I'm thinking of? Oh ok. He scored in a loss at the Emirates in about 2013, assumed that must have been the game
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 25, 2022 12:41:24 GMT
Think we lost 1-0 in the game I'm thinking of? Oh ok. He scored in a loss at the Emirates in about 2013, assumed that must have been the game Think that might've been an early Hughes one. Vaguely recall making my then-missus watch it on holiday in Kefalonia, was one of the final nails in the coffin of that particular relationship...
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 25, 2022 15:00:48 GMT
Nor Geoff Cameron, for that legendary time Pulis played him there at Arsenal during his 'Falling Down' phase. I was quite happy having totally forgotten about that thank you.
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 25, 2022 16:38:10 GMT
Oh ok. He scored in a loss at the Emirates in about 2013, assumed that must have been the game Think that might've been an early Hughes one. Vaguely recall making my then-missus watch it on holiday in Kefalonia, was one of the final nails in the coffin of that particular relationship... Jesus. How depraved was the final final nail?
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 25, 2022 16:38:47 GMT
Kind of. I always thought he was more of a second striker than an out and out number 10. Was he a false 10?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 25, 2022 16:47:12 GMT
To confuse matters further probably our best ever number 8 (Alan Hudson) played mainly for us in a no 10 shirt and arguably our best ever number 10 (Jimmy Greenoff) mainly played in a no 8 shirt during the same period... ...and I can't believe we are 2 pages in on great no 10s and not mentioned Jimmy Greenoff. Shame on you all.... He never played in the Premiershit! Doh.... ..still it was better then...jumpers for goalposts... Still the point remains when is a number 8 a number 10 and vice versa - I think everyone knows the difference in terms of what they do but even going back to the 70s the shirt numbers didn't necessarily reflect the role.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 25, 2022 22:25:24 GMT
Think that might've been an early Hughes one. Vaguely recall making my then-missus watch it on holiday in Kefalonia, was one of the final nails in the coffin of that particular relationship... Jesus. How depraved was the final final nail? 04-05 season review DVD for her birthday
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Post by metalhead on Mar 26, 2022 6:53:58 GMT
Lol Joe Cole. How embarrassing. He wasn't even the best 'number 10' in that Chelsea team and rarely played there anyway.
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Post by wakeypotter on Mar 26, 2022 9:45:08 GMT
Dennis Bergkamp and Zola for me. I was just guna put thought zola was a 10 For me he’s one of the best ever prem players
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 26, 2022 11:01:22 GMT
I wouldn't say Sheringham was a 10 Of course he is He's one of the best examples of a number 10.
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Post by Davef on Mar 26, 2022 11:14:58 GMT
David Silva
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 26, 2022 11:43:04 GMT
I wouldn't say Sheringham was a 10 Of course he is He's one of the best examples of a number 10. He is in that he wore the number 10 shirt. Other than that he isn’t because, you know, that’s not what the role is.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 26, 2022 12:26:12 GMT
I wouldn't say Sheringham was a 10 Of course he is He's one of the best examples of a number 10. Not in the contemporary sense of the role (see my tongue-in-cheek post about Dave Regis above). When I was growing up a “10” was basically just a support striker in a 442. Sometimes that might mean coming deep to pick up the ball and play passes but more often than not it meant doing the ugly work up front - running and harrying, bullying the centre backs and winning flick-ons for the #9, normally the more skilful and clinical frontman. The “10” nowadays is the central attacking midfielder type that the team is built around, Maradona and Messi being the archetypes.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 27, 2022 9:39:58 GMT
Of course he is He's one of the best examples of a number 10. He is in that he wore the number 10 shirt. Other than that he isn’t because, you know, that’s not what the role is. Most teams played with 2 up top back then with one slightly deeper than the other. If Teddy played now in a 4231 he'd be the no.10 behind the main striker. He was your typical no.10
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 27, 2022 9:56:45 GMT
He is in that he wore the number 10 shirt. Other than that he isn’t because, you know, that’s not what the role is. Most teams played with 2 up top back then with one slightly deeper than the other. If Teddy played now in a 4231 he'd be the no.10 behind the main striker. He was your typical no.10 He really wasn’t. Diego Maradona is your typical no 10. Sheringham was a second striker, and a fairly cerebral one.
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Post by s7oke on Mar 27, 2022 10:26:14 GMT
How can Rooney not be on that list ??
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 27, 2022 10:27:08 GMT
Most teams played with 2 up top back then with one slightly deeper than the other. If Teddy played now in a 4231 he'd be the no.10 behind the main striker. He was your typical no.10 He really wasn’t. Diego Maradona is your typical no 10. Sheringham was a second striker, and a fairly cerebral one. No different to Bojan. If you're setting up as a 442 he's called a second striker, if you're setting up 4231 he gets called a no.10
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 27, 2022 10:37:08 GMT
Depends how you look at it, majority of players from over 20-30 years ago wouldn't be able cope with the speed of the game today
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