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Post by BuckRogers on Mar 18, 2022 13:17:07 GMT
If he plays 5 at back at home I give up. 4 _ 2 _ 3 _1 or 4 _ 3 _ 3
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2022 13:23:27 GMT
Quick progressive passing game is what he's aiming for so try to bloody well do it. But we don’t do. The confidence is gone in the squad and you can’t play a progressive game if your players are nervous. I'm not saying we do but we should try to do it.
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 18, 2022 13:39:22 GMT
But we don’t do. The confidence is gone in the squad and you can’t play a progressive game if your players are nervous. I'm not saying we do but we should try to do it. In many ways, I agree Bayern. But it feels like we’ve been trying to do that for a while, and haven’t managed to do so since perhaps the Nottm Forest game. More than anything, we need a win on the board. I’d give a season debut to Forrester, but try and play the high press and show “a bit of steel”. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Allen as a 10 behind Brown. Without Powell we look like a lame duck. Vrancic and Sawyers have offered nothing since their injuries, and questionable amounts of quality before that. Teams make mistakes all game when under pressure, but Vrancic isn’t going to press and Brown can’t do it all himself.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2022 13:43:00 GMT
I'm not saying we do but we should try to do it. In many ways, I agree Bayern. But it feels like we’ve been trying to do that for a while, and haven’t managed to do so since perhaps the Nottm Forest game. More than anything, we need a win on the board. I’d give a season debut to Forrester, but try and play the high press and show “a bit of steel”. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Allen as a 10 behind Brown. Without Powell we look like a lame duck. Vrancic and Sawyers have offered nothing since their injuries, and questionable amounts of quality before that. Teams make mistakes all game when under pressure, but Vrancic isn’t going to press and Brown can’t do it all himself. I don't think we have. We haven't been setting up to do it. He may think he has with having TBH at centre half but then you have Wilmot at right back, Allen and Thompson together and then Chester or Batth or Moore or some other form of shit that completely negates it all. We tried Allen as a 10 when he signed, it was crap.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Mar 18, 2022 17:32:06 GMT
Gouranga. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/ibnJJzaA6ZhfTOIekEAf.gif)
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Post by apb1 on Mar 18, 2022 17:40:27 GMT
From the number of 'I'm not going tomorrow' posts I've seen on Twitter, think there'll be a terrible crowd.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Mar 18, 2022 17:44:35 GMT
From the number of 'I'm not going tomorrow' posts I've seen on Twitter, think there'll be a terrible crowd. Midlands Grand National at Uttoxeter - all 4 of us will be there instead. Mixed feelings to be honest, hope they put on a performance to make us regret our decision, but doubt it.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 18, 2022 17:46:24 GMT
He’ll select how he normally does surely, names out of a tombola.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 18, 2022 17:47:14 GMT
Hopefully no Fox, no Chester. That gives us half a chance
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Post by chigstoke on Mar 18, 2022 17:49:00 GMT
This whole worrying about Millwall is a bit small time too. We're at home, impose our game on them. Problem is Bayern, our game at the moment is to lose every match.
We can barely set up right for a match now, if we impose our game on Millwall they'll win about 9-0.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2022 18:01:07 GMT
This whole worrying about Millwall is a bit small time too. We're at home, impose our game on them. Problem is Bayern, our game at the moment is to lose every match. We can barely set up right for a match now, if we impose our game on Millwall they'll win about 9-0.
I'd argue that by saying we haven't put out a team to play how MON wants them to. He's used Chester or Moore which straight away ruins that. And that's not even looking at other things that do as well.
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Post by chigstoke on Mar 18, 2022 18:18:04 GMT
Problem is Bayern, our game at the moment is to lose every match. We can barely set up right for a match now, if we impose our game on Millwall they'll win about 9-0.
I'd argue that by saying we haven't put out a team to play how MON wants them to. He's used Chester or Moore which straight away ruins that. And that's not even looking at other things that do as well. You can bet your bottom dollar that both of them will start tomorrow. I'll be surprised if not.
He doesn't help himself in the slightest. Imagine making a gameplan and then nullifying it immediately by playing the players who don't suit it.
The more games he gets, the worse it gets. And maybe because he plays the wrong players, means I don't have a fucking clue what the gameplan is anymore, the end result being a mess.
The good hiding we gave Forest this season at home seems but a distant memory.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2022 18:23:44 GMT
I'd argue that by saying we haven't put out a team to play how MON wants them to. He's used Chester or Moore which straight away ruins that. And that's not even looking at other things that do as well. You can bet your bottom dollar that both of them will start tomorrow. I'll be surprised if not.
He doesn't help himself in the slightest. Imagine making a gameplan and then nullifying it immediately by playing the players who don't suit it. The more games he gets, the worse it gets. And maybe because he plays the wrong players, means I don't have a fucking clue what the gameplan is anymore, the end result being a mess. The good hiding we gave Forest this season at home seems but a distant memory.
I completely agree. That’s why I think he has to pick a side something like the one I’ve suggested.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 18, 2022 18:27:22 GMT
In many ways, I agree Bayern. But it feels like we’ve been trying to do that for a while, and haven’t managed to do so since perhaps the Nottm Forest game. More than anything, we need a win on the board. I’d give a season debut to Forrester, but try and play the high press and show “a bit of steel”. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Allen as a 10 behind Brown. Without Powell we look like a lame duck. Vrancic and Sawyers have offered nothing since their injuries, and questionable amounts of quality before that. Teams make mistakes all game when under pressure, but Vrancic isn’t going to press and Brown can’t do it all himself. I don't think we have. We haven't been setting up to do it. He may think he has with having TBH at centre half but then you have Wilmot at right back, Allen and Thompson together and then Chester or Batth or Moore or some other form of shit that completely negates it all. We tried Allen as a 10 when he signed, it was crap. How’s about Nathan Baker as the 10 with Allen and Thompson behind? Baker certainly has the passing quality, workrate and shooting ability. I’m passed caring to be honest but something needs to change
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Post by chigstoke on Mar 18, 2022 18:27:44 GMT
You can bet your bottom dollar that both of them will start tomorrow. I'll be surprised if not.
He doesn't help himself in the slightest. Imagine making a gameplan and then nullifying it immediately by playing the players who don't suit it. The more games he gets, the worse it gets. And maybe because he plays the wrong players, means I don't have a fucking clue what the gameplan is anymore, the end result being a mess. The good hiding we gave Forest this season at home seems but a distant memory.
I completely agree. That’s why I think he has to pick a side something like the one I’ve suggested. Had to flick back to see what it was.
Like the look of that team. At this point we really have nothing to lose play Forrester either IMO.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2022 18:55:36 GMT
I don't think we have. We haven't been setting up to do it. He may think he has with having TBH at centre half but then you have Wilmot at right back, Allen and Thompson together and then Chester or Batth or Moore or some other form of shit that completely negates it all. We tried Allen as a 10 when he signed, it was crap. How’s about Nathan Baker as the 10 with Allen and Thompson behind? Baker certainly has the passing quality, workrate and shooting ability. I’m passed caring to be honest but something needs to change I think for the trickier away games it’s fine but at home against an average side? Not for me. Baker is best as that second midfielder too.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 18, 2022 18:58:46 GMT
How’s about Nathan Baker as the 10 with Allen and Thompson behind? Baker certainly has the passing quality, workrate and shooting ability. I’m passed caring to be honest but something needs to change I think for the trickier away games it’s fine but at home against an average side? Not for me. Baker is best as that second midfielder too. Ah just trying to think of something different, Baker is our best player atm so I’m thinking use him in a position where he can cause damage. As I said, I aren’t arsed anymore but doesn’t stop me thinking of ways to improve which we haven’t tried yet. Also agree with the above, get Forrester in now till the end of the season
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 18, 2022 19:22:08 GMT
Bonham
Wilmott Moore Harwood-Bellis
Smith Allen Baker Vrancic Tymon
Wright-Phillips Brown
Subs: Bursik, Fox, Sawyers, Thompson, Campbell, Fletcher, Maja.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 0:40:47 GMT
--------------Bursik----------------
Brown----Wilmot----Jagielka----Tymon
----------Allen----Baker-------------
Wright-Phillips------Philogene-Bidace
---------Campbell------Maja----------
Won't happen but before JPB leaves us, i would really love to see this.
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Post by dirtclod on Mar 19, 2022 0:46:37 GMT
Has he thrown the darts yet?
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Mar 19, 2022 8:02:29 GMT
0-0 or 1-1
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Post by Veritas on Mar 19, 2022 9:14:36 GMT
--------------Bursik---------------- Brown----Wilmot----Jagielka----Tymon ----------Allen----Baker------------- Wright-Phillips------Philogene-Bidace ---------Campbell------Maja---------- Won't happen but before JPB leaves us, i would really love to see this. Brown at right back???
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Mar 19, 2022 10:07:29 GMT
It's a beautifully sunny day, and I can already hear the feint whirring of the Tombola machine, warming up, in the distance.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 19, 2022 10:33:28 GMT
A lot of emotional turmoil recently that has weighed heavily on my mind. However, i've come to the conclusion that I will just about accept a win in this game...
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 19, 2022 10:40:13 GMT
Saturday morning - That feeling when you wonder why you're driving 2 hours for more misery 😭
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Post by shrewspotter on Mar 19, 2022 10:51:13 GMT
4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or 4-4-2
Id go something like Bursik
Smith Jagielka or Wilmot Forrester Tymon
Allen Thompson Baker
Wright-Phillips Brown Campbell
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Post by mosquito on Mar 19, 2022 11:27:41 GMT
I bought tickets online yesterday for todays game and selected to print them out, I have received confirmation but no tickets. Ticket line says it opens 4 hours before kick off on match days, but still just getting a recorded message. Should I have already received my tickets or don't they arrive until closer to kick off? Thanks!
Forget that, they have just arrived, lol
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 19, 2022 11:40:41 GMT
1-2
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Mar 19, 2022 12:06:44 GMT
HT Stoke 0-0 Millwall FT Stoke 1-0 Millwall
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Post by Old School Stokie on Mar 19, 2022 12:25:02 GMT
So we should have won so many games against "the lesser" teams, but form has Millwall top and Stoke Bottom over last 8 games - so we will probably win today
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