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Post by danceswithclams on Jan 26, 2022 1:00:56 GMT
The Gen Z Martin Carruthers™
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Post by Billy the kid on Jan 26, 2022 1:11:11 GMT
He's absolutely useless as is Tymon. That is agenda riddled bollox at its finest, I expected better from you, neither are particularly great, but tymon is knackered In his defence, brown however, is top scorer but fucking useless tonight.
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Post by hyaduck on Jan 26, 2022 3:41:10 GMT
He's absolutely useless as is Tymon. That is agenda riddled bollox at its finest, I expected better from you, neither are particularly great, but tymon is knackered In his defence, brown however, is top scorer but fucking useless tonight. Are you O’Neill‘a agent???? First you defend the manager now you defend the donkey forward who runs and runs but nothing else!!! CLOWN!!!!
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 26, 2022 6:51:33 GMT
Brown has his uses.
If we're defending a lead, he's the ideal player to bring on and defend from the front. He's also great at pressing dodgy opposition defences who try to play out from the back (he'd be great against ours!) and if you play him wide on the right he'll get up and down all day long.
He's not a player you pick for every game; if you need someone to unlock a packed defence, he's not your man. if you want someone to hold the ball up, forget it.
As a striker he has to play in a two alongside a target man- he can't lead the line on his own or partner someone like DWP or Campbell,neither of whom can hold onto the ball well either. If we switch to 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 he'll provide a decent option on the right.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2022 8:14:38 GMT
Brown has his uses. If we're defending a lead, he's the ideal player to bring on and defend from the front. He's also great at pressing dodgy opposition defences who try to play out from the back (he'd be great against ours!) and if you play him wide on the right he'll get up and down all day long. He's not a player you pick for every game; if you need someone to unlock a packed defence, he's not your man. if you want someone to hold the ball up, forget it. As a striker he has to play in a two alongside a target man- he can't lead the line on his own or partner someone like DWP or Campbell,neither of whom can hold onto the ball well either. If we switch to 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 he'll provide a decent option on the right. We need a new striker to lead the line. I'd be absolutely mortified if O'Neill doesn't think the same.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 26, 2022 17:34:20 GMT
Brown has his uses. If we're defending a lead, he's the ideal player to bring on and defend from the front. He's also great at pressing dodgy opposition defences who try to play out from the back (he'd be great against ours!) and if you play him wide on the right he'll get up and down all day long. He's not a player you pick for every game; if you need someone to unlock a packed defence, he's not your man. if you want someone to hold the ball up, forget it. As a striker he has to play in a two alongside a target man- he can't lead the line on his own or partner someone like DWP or Campbell,neither of whom can hold onto the ball well either. If we switch to 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 he'll provide a decent option on the right. We need a new striker to lead the line. I'd be absolutely mortified if O'Neill doesn't think the same. He probably hoped Surridge would be that player.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 26, 2022 18:04:18 GMT
A Whippet can run, but he ain't going to score many goals if you put a football kit on it.
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Post by theonlooker on Jan 26, 2022 18:08:59 GMT
We need a new striker to lead the line. I'd be absolutely mortified if O'Neill doesn't think the same. He probably hoped Surridge would be that player. Please don't say the manager has spent 2.5M on a player he "hopes" can do a certain job? Sure you can't guarantee a striker will score goals, that's always been a dark art which seems to be darker than most at this club over the last 30 years (!!), but surely you can guarantee that a striker you sign can do the nuts and bolts you are supposedly buying him for (target man, channel runner, goal poacher etc) ?
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Post by Pirate on Jan 26, 2022 18:12:34 GMT
Dont know which i find more galling, if as some people say JB has improved over his near 80apps for us & the inference from that being MON signed him when he was worse than he is now, or he signed Surridge with the tagline of being the number one striker he identified
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 26, 2022 19:52:21 GMT
He probably hoped Surridge would be that player. Please don't say the manager has spent 2.5M on a player he "hopes" can do a certain job? Sure you can't guarantee a striker will score goals, that's always been a dark art which seems to be darker than most at this club over the last 30 years (!!), but surely you can guarantee that a striker you sign can do the nuts and bolts you are supposedly buying him for (target man, channel runner, goal poacher etc) ? He's the nearest we've got to Fletcher out of the others, but I wouldn't ever look at him and think 'target man'- more jack of all trades, master of none. That 2.5m on a striker was a signing we couldn't afford to get wrong, and yet it depressingly looks like we have. For years our recruitment has been nothing more than a lottery- there never seems to be any overarching plan about the kind of players we need to recruit in order to make a system function. This is most apparent in the strikers: if MON went into the season thinking it was going to be 5-3-2 and a strike partnership all the way, I'd love to know his thinking in terms of how they were all supposed to fit together. The way it looks now, an injury-prone 35-year-old is the only player who can win a ball in the air and hold on to the thing, while there are now five players (Surridge, Brown, Campbell, DWP, Sima) all vying for the other spot. It's yet another Stoke City recruitment clusterfuck.
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Post by theonlooker on Jan 26, 2022 19:56:51 GMT
Please don't say the manager has spent 2.5M on a player he "hopes" can do a certain job? Sure you can't guarantee a striker will score goals, that's always been a dark art which seems to be darker than most at this club over the last 30 years (!!), but surely you can guarantee that a striker you sign can do the nuts and bolts you are supposedly buying him for (target man, channel runner, goal poacher etc) ? He's the nearest we've got to Fletcher out of the others, but I wouldn't ever look at him and think 'target man'- more jack of all trades, master of none. That 2.5m on a striker was a signing we couldn't afford to get wrong, and yet it depressingly looks like we have. For years our recruitment has been nothing more than a lottery- there never seems to be any overarching plan about the kind of players we need to recruit in order to make a system function. This is most apparent in the strikers: if MON went into the season thinking it was going to be 5-3-2 and a strike partnership all the way, I'd love to know his thinking in terms of how they were all supposed to fit together. The way it looks now, an injury-prone 35-year-old is the only player who can win a ball in the air and hold on to the thing, while there are now five players (Surridge, Brown, Campbell, DWP, Sima) all vying for the other spot. It's yet another Stoke City recruitment clusterfuck. Can't disagree with any of that. Our recruitment started off worrying me years ago. I reached the 'complete depression' stage post Rowett and I'm currently in the 'sat in the corner shaking like a shitting dog' stage at present...
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Post by questionable on Jan 26, 2022 19:57:48 GMT
He's absolutely useless as is Tymon. That is agenda riddled bollox at its finest, I expected better from you, neither are particularly great, but tymon is knackered In his defence, brown however, is top scorer but fucking useless tonight. WOW all about opinions but IMO Browns a very, very average player and doesn’t merit a starting position, Tymon is a one in ten player who has a good game. All in all with MON in charge we look abysmal.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 26, 2022 20:48:42 GMT
He's the nearest we've got to Fletcher out of the others, but I wouldn't ever look at him and think 'target man'- more jack of all trades, master of none. That 2.5m on a striker was a signing we couldn't afford to get wrong, and yet it depressingly looks like we have. For years our recruitment has been nothing more than a lottery- there never seems to be any overarching plan about the kind of players we need to recruit in order to make a system function. This is most apparent in the strikers: if MON went into the season thinking it was going to be 5-3-2 and a strike partnership all the way, I'd love to know his thinking in terms of how they were all supposed to fit together. The way it looks now, an injury-prone 35-year-old is the only player who can win a ball in the air and hold on to the thing, while there are now five players (Surridge, Brown, Campbell, DWP, Sima) all vying for the other spot. It's yet another Stoke City recruitment clusterfuck. Can't disagree with any of that. Our recruitment started off worrying me years ago. I reached the 'complete depression' stage post Rowett and I'm currently in the 'sat in the corner shaking like a shitting dog' stage at present... Your worries are no doubt underlined by our business in the loans market?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2022 21:27:48 GMT
Fair fucks for that finish.
Amazing finish!
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Post by a on Jan 28, 2022 21:29:33 GMT
Fair fucks for that finish. Amazing finish! There are a lot of dickheads on here who need to “have a word” 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2022 21:30:43 GMT
Fair fucks for that finish. Amazing finish! There are a lot of dickheads on here who need to “have a word” 😂 Nah he’s still shit but that was awesome!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 28, 2022 21:32:59 GMT
There are a lot of dickheads on here who need to “have a word” 😂 Nah he’s still shit but that was awesome! Never a frown with Jacob Brown! Seriously he was needed and has made a difference without the goal. Fletcher was beyond dire and Campbell is lucky to be on the pitch still.
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Post by TinkerT on Jan 28, 2022 21:36:52 GMT
Another game pulled from the shit by Jacob, go on lad!
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 28, 2022 21:37:58 GMT
Come on last minute winner to rub it in.
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Post by wrighter on Jan 28, 2022 21:38:09 GMT
i love it when this happens a player gets crap treatment on here, then goes and scores lol
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 28, 2022 21:39:51 GMT
Sky MOTM. There’ll be some furious people on here about that. He’s changed the game in our favour no doubt
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 28, 2022 21:40:47 GMT
AWFUL Ref. He Needs sacking
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2022 21:41:39 GMT
Nah he’s still shit but that was awesome! Never a frown with Jacob Brown! Seriously he was needed and has made a difference without the goal. Fletcher was beyond dire and Campbell is lucky to be on the pitch still. And then he did that counter attack 😂😂🤦♂️
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Post by a on Jan 28, 2022 21:43:00 GMT
There are a lot of dickheads on here who need to “have a word” 😂 Nah he’s still shit but that was awesome! Long may it continue. Silence the (sane) doubting twats 😂
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 28, 2022 21:44:02 GMT
Never a frown with Jacob Brown! Seriously he was needed and has made a difference without the goal. Fletcher was beyond dire and Campbell is lucky to be on the pitch still. And then he did that counter attack 😂😂🤦♂️ That’s why he’s so frustrating. Superb goal but twice at the end there he fucks up great opportunities by having zero awareness of anything going on around him.
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Post by a on Jan 28, 2022 21:44:06 GMT
Never a frown with Jacob Brown! Seriously he was needed and has made a difference without the goal. Fletcher was beyond dire and Campbell is lucky to be on the pitch still. And then he did that counter attack 😂😂🤦♂️ God you are beyond agenda weirding pathetic Feel for you It is sad
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Post by tejstokie on Jan 28, 2022 21:44:47 GMT
He's a great player for this club whose endless effort gets him chances like that. TBH that if done by any other striker or midfielder at this club would be on every tweet. May it long continue, nice to see some eating crow on here
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 28, 2022 21:44:59 GMT
Never a frown with Jacob Brown! Seriously he was needed and has made a difference without the goal. Fletcher was beyond dire and Campbell is lucky to be on the pitch still. And then he did that counter attack 😂😂🤦♂️ That was wank admittedly. But you will still stand by that Brown hasn’t turned the game in our favour apart from the goal? He got MOTM, how long was he on? Give the lad some credit
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Post by stokecitydom on Jan 28, 2022 21:46:11 GMT
It was an almighty finish, but his general play and touch wasn’t great.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2022 21:46:25 GMT
And then he did that counter attack 😂😂🤦♂️ That was wank admittedly. But you will still stand by that Brown hasn’t turned the game in our favour apart from the goal? He got MOTM, how long was he on? Give the lad some credit I thought Powell was the key. Allen did more in the middle too. I did give him credit….
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